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Kanye West "Blood on the leaves" uses same samples and sequence from Dj Craze Z2 set.

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Kanye West "Blood on the leaves" uses same samples and sequence from Dj Craze Z2 set. Posted on: 15.07.2013 by Linnie Zee Dj Craze Z2 set skip to 0:55 Kanye West - Blood on the leaves skip to 2:50 WOW any thoughts on the matter?
Janyce Henningson 17.07.2013	Originally Posted by johney I'm a Gay Fish I'd sample that
Julissa Serrone 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by DISaS73R Also, Kanye may be a prick, he may not be a very good rapper, he may be quite popular, but he's a brilliant producer I'm not a fan of the guy ---- but +1 on the producer comment.
Janyce Henningson 17.07.2013	The new stuff is cool but it's not Slick Rick or EPMD or talking of Compton these guys: MC Eiht - genius DJ Unknown - best use of samples ever (imo)
Jenna Skeem 17.07.2013	So what if he sampled it, at least it isn't as much of a rip of as this. skip to 1.00
Nga Mcquarter 17.07.2013	Okay, I'm a new school kid, and I started listening to "hip hop" with some Jay-Z, Kanye West, Snoop Dogg... all those known guys who do it in top40. they're GOOD, maybe not the best, but they know how to do it nowadays. The guys from the old school (NWA, A Tribe Called Quest...) were pioneers in their style, and even if I don't listen to them always, I believe their stuff is GENIUS. Straight Outta Compton is one of my favorites hip hop songs and Dr. Dre production are DOPE (anyways better than the Beats headphones). But I also I don't believe there's any bad in new school hip hop. I really like what Kanye is doing (mostly in producing), Jay-Z is also very cool, and the newest stuff from Snoop Dogg is dope. IMO if you don't like these guys, there's no reason to listen to them. It's like the techno guy who def hates dubstep (right? i don't know xD). Days will come where some rapper does like Daft Punk and TRIES to recreate the old generation. I may get in trouble, but I LOVE Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, and not for Thrift Shop. And about Kanye West's new album: he has reached a point where he can do WHATEVER he wants and still have success. Also partially has "helped" to show that Daft Punk still can have that techno sound from the first days, right? I like On Sight and Black Skinhead.
Janyce Henningson 17.07.2013	Originally Posted by johney I'm a Gay Fish I'd sample that
Augustine Mitzen 17.07.2013	I'm a Gay Fish
Lang Abriel 16.07.2013	Not gonna get in on the Kanye vs. all other rappers of all time argument... I wasn't around for rap in the 80's and just started listening in the late 90's so I'm not going to claim to be an expert but obviously the way you get popular these days is to rap about alot different topics than things in the 80's. I do believe that many of Kanye's productions, weather sampled or originally produced are very good and he should get credit for that, but beats are beats, its highly opinionated. This thread is like ppl comparing Lebron to Jordan, theres no way to make an equal comparison when one is still in their 'prime' but ppl try to do it anyways.
Julissa Serrone 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by DISaS73R Also, Kanye may be a prick, he may not be a very good rapper, he may be quite popular, but he's a brilliant producer I'm not a fan of the guy ---- but +1 on the producer comment.
Hellen Mindrup 16.07.2013	Yeah Kanye West is terribad so I won't even be giving his music a listen.
Marnie Petrangelo 16.07.2013	Will he is not.
Brunilda Kora 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Keith Edward Elam RIP
Olin Easley 16.07.2013	I'm not saying that you don't know these songs, but it's just obvious when you listen to them one after another that NWA's stuff is not in same category. Also, Kanye may be a prick, he may not be a very good rapper, he may be quite popular, but he's a brilliant producer and he has the balls to actually do what he wants. He also raps quite well in these:
Tommy Thiner 16.07.2013	Wu-Tang!!!
nayit ruiz jaramillo 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Those vids are blocked at work!!! What are you guys posting?!? I posted NWA - If It aint Ruff DISaS73R posted: Paid In Full Rap Promoter Stop The Violence
nayit ruiz jaramillo 16.07.2013	Dude you are preaching to the choir. I know hip hop. I am old enough to have bought ALL those records when they came out. I was merely pointing out that you can't reduce NWA to songs about guns and dick sucking. There are good hip hop artists now and there always have been. Kanye West is not one of them. He is undoubtably HUGE and has produced some great albums but his own work is tiresome at best. In the UK he is known as "that rapper that complains about not getting enough recognition". Perhaps it's unfair to judge him against the "golden era" artists but he has to make as good music as they did to deserve the recognition they got and the simple fact that no matter how many records he sells, that crap-rap, top40, bling-hop of his deserves to be put with all the rest of the rubbish hiphop that comes out of America these days. 3 words: Keith Edward Elam
Brunilda Kora 16.07.2013	Those vids are blocked at work!!! What are you guys posting?!?
Olin Easley 16.07.2013	He's got a good flow in some parts of the song, but that's about it. It's really not on the same level as other classics:
nayit ruiz jaramillo 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by DISaS73R Tell me what's so good about NWA? Ok I will. Originally Posted by DISaS73R Their amazing flow? Damn straight. Ren is amazing on this track. Originally Posted by DISaS73R with the exception of Ice Cube as a rapper and Dre. You "Forgot About Mc Ren" (in an Eminem voice). Knowledge.
Olin Easley 16.07.2013	I don't label myself as anything, but I've heard enough hip hop to have an opinion on the matter. Tell me what's so good about NWA? Their deep lyrics? Their amazing flow? Their storytelling? Again, I agree that they are historically important with their attitude, etc, but I really don't believe that they deserve so much praise.
Brunilda Kora 16.07.2013	Sticking up for Kanye, then ripping NWA? Are you really a hip-hop fan?!?
Olin Easley 16.07.2013	NWA (with the exception of Ice Cube as a rapper and Dre as a producer) are the most overrated hip hop act of all time. Straight Outta Compton is an important album, but it can't measure up to a lot of other albums both from that time and nowadays.
Brunilda Kora 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by DISaS73R Maybe the fact that you can't call it a classic is because it's new and that's not really in the definition? Jurassic 5 - J5 was a classic the second it was released. So was Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde. So was The Chronic. So was Step in the Arena. So was Straight Outta Compton...
Olin Easley 16.07.2013	Maybe the fact that you can't call it a classic is because it's new and that's not really in the definition? Of course we remember older producers (Premo is still my favourite), but you can't just write off everything that's been released in the last 15 years. Sure, things have changed, but this doesn't make it worse. There were a lot of talented rappers and producers 20 years ago, there are a lot of talented rappers and producers now. What's your definition of a prime anyway?
Brunilda Kora 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos The prick doesn't even register on my Hip Hop radar. Church. Originally Posted by DJLiquitATL I'm not going to deny Kanye's greatness and contribution to hip-hop BUT it sounds to me like community members making these claims must not have been around hip hop in its prime. It is NOTHING like it used to be. There is nothing released today by Kanye or anyone else you can label as a "classic"... Have we forgotten all the original producers who only had 4-track beat machines? And what about before that?... Someone needs a history lesson on hip hop. That's for sure. FUCKIN' CHUUUUUURCH!!!
Federico Vilas 16.07.2013	I'm not going to deny Kanye's greatness and contribution to hip-hop BUT it sounds to me like community members making these claims must not have been around hip hop in its prime. It is NOTHING like it used to be. There is nothing released today by Kanye or anyone else you can label as a "classic"... Have we forgotten all the original producers who only had 4-track beat machines? And what about before that?... Someone needs a history lesson on hip hop. That's for sure.
Olin Easley 16.07.2013	Originally Posted by dfinch805 And Kanye, although a narcissistic prick, definitely contributed heavily to the sampling movement that brought hip hop to its current state. Precisely. Also, Kanye being "top40" is one of the most ridiculous statements I've read on this community . He may not be the best rapper ever (quite far away from it), but as a producer (remember The Blueprint?) and an ARTIST he's one of the most important people in the hip hop scene in the past 15ish years.
Lang Abriel 15.07.2013	Facts. 1. Kanye straight up bought the rights to the song from TNGHT, thats why they played it at alot of their live shows but never released it. 2. Craze used to tour with Kanye, I highly doubt he would sue him, not like Kanye needs the money.
Jetta Drenzek 15.07.2013	The TNGHT track samples a few tracks, those sampled horns are clearly sampled, for example, and the vocal hook comes from Julie McKevening 's Home. Mods need to lock this thread because it literally has no purpose or direction, it's just going to spawn a pissing competition over who knows the first sample to hit the Top 40's or the earliest recorded use of sampling (Which someone told me was the Beatles, unbelievably.)
Addie Engbrecht 15.07.2013	Craze's set was def directly sampled from that trap song, but I wanna say Swizz Beatz put out a song with that same instrumental like 10 years ago (could be wrong).........and he prob sampled that from somewhere too
Michell Wehrmeyer 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos He is the reason the 'he' is still alive. He has nothing at all to do with hip hop being "alive". He is as Top40 as The Spice Girls. The prick doesn't even register on my Hip Hop radar. Jus my 2 beans I believe he meant the heavy sampling that has become so prominent in music today, not hip hop itself. And Kanye, although a narcissistic prick, definitely contributed heavily to the sampling movement that brought hip hop to its current state.
Ara Tima 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos He is the reason the 'he' is still alive. He has nothing at all to do with hip hop being "alive". He is as Top40 as The Spice Girls. The prick doesn't even register on my Hip Hop radar. Jus my 2 beans To be fair the latest album is pretty radio unfriendly, I can't really imagine a single on the album. Not really a Top 40 album like say Jay Z's latest one..
nayit ruiz jaramillo 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by DISaS73R Kanye's.... he's one of the reasons it's still alive. He is the reason the 'he' is still alive. He has nothing at all to do with hip hop being "alive". He is as Top40 as The Spice Girls. The prick doesn't even register on my Hip Hop radar. Jus my 2 beans
Ara Tima 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by DISaS73R I'm talking about rap, not music in general. When he started blowing up, sampling had become quite rare. Really? Or do you mean obvious sampling has become quite rare. He credited them as writers on the tune. As he did with Daft Punk, Gesaffelstein and others.
Olin Easley 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Wooooaaahhh therrrrreeee.... I'm talking about rap, not music in general. When he started blowing up, sampling had become quite rare.
Larraine Pangrazio 15.07.2013	Actually I they all sampled this, which Kanye references in the song. "Before you tried to destroy us How you gon' lie to the lawyer? It's like I don't even know ya I gotta bring it back to the 'nolia" Nolia referencing the south which C-Murder and No Limit Records are from.
Jetta Drenzek 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by Wuz Will he is not. On topic, I'm not sure what the issue is here? Sampling is de facto in popular music, and has been for a few decades now.
Brunilda Kora 15.07.2013	...he's one of the reasons it's still alive. Wooooaaahhh therrrrreeee....
Olin Easley 15.07.2013	How is sampling in HIP HOP surprising? Especially in Kanye's productions, he's one of the reasons it's still alive.
Michell Wehrmeyer 15.07.2013	Originally Posted by squidot actually he sampled this: the internet says it was cleared, along with i'm sure everything kanye west samples. when you're that big you generally get permission since that will be cheaper than lawsuits. Check the production credits on the track. Hudmo and Lunice both worked with him to produce that track. If you don't know, they are the duo who make up "TNGHT"