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VCI 100 - Jog Wheel Scratching - Strange
Posted on: 19.04.2010 by Valencia Neudorfer
hey guys,

i got the vci 100 fw1.2 with traktor pro 1.2.1

in order to get rid off that ramp up thing i used the advice given by ean in this article
the ramp up issue is gone ...

but..

scratching with the jog wheels has a whole different feeling to it now..
actually its very buggy, its not accurate and u can not scratch on the point..
sometime the jog wheel reacts when spinning sometimes it doesnt...

i have tried many different mappings but all of them have the same issue when fixing the ramp up problem..

it has nothing to do with the screws of the plate, because
if i set the midi mappings to the command with the ramp up problem, scratching works just perfect... (except the ramp up problem)

has anyone ever had the same experience?
having a gig on saturday and wanna fix this problem..

-kadkad
Julissa Serrone
14.10.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
Are you still on 1.2.1? I would upgrade to 1.2.6.
This +100

Update to your software, update your firmware and this will all be resolved.

Why would anyone still be using 1.2.1?????

Leeanna Ayla
13.10.2010
Originally Posted by KADKAD
i cannot update my traktor version..
any other hints?
Is that because it's a cracked version?
Valencia Neudorfer
19.04.2010
hey guys,

i got the vci 100 fw1.2 with traktor pro 1.2.1

in order to get rid off that ramp up thing i used the advice given by ean in this article
the ramp up issue is gone ...

but..

scratching with the jog wheels has a whole different feeling to it now..
actually its very buggy, its not accurate and u can not scratch on the point..
sometime the jog wheel reacts when spinning sometimes it doesnt...

i have tried many different mappings but all of them have the same issue when fixing the ramp up problem..

it has nothing to do with the screws of the plate, because
if i set the midi mappings to the command with the ramp up problem, scratching works just perfect... (except the ramp up problem)

has anyone ever had the same experience?
having a gig on saturday and wanna fix this problem..

-kadkad
Reece Murray
15.10.2010
Hmm, yeah, since your settings look fine, my vote would be to upgrade/purchase as well. How 'bout an audio sample? I'm interested to hear what it's doing for you.

Also, I didn't realize this was a somewhat necro thread, and didn't read through the whole thing again. You already mentioned your scratch settings, sorry to ask you for em again. What exactly are the settings/note numbers you use for the "more accurate but ramp-up problem" version? I wanna see if I can duplicate your issue.
Julissa Serrone
14.10.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
Are you still on 1.2.1? I would upgrade to 1.2.6.
This +100

Update to your software, update your firmware and this will all be resolved.

Why would anyone still be using 1.2.1?????

Valencia Neudorfer
14.10.2010
hey zac,
my jog settings are like this


i changed the rotary accelaration , and hmm it feels better , but still not as precise as it is when i change the scratch on settings to the ramp up midi notes.
my vci has fw 1.2
i tried to change the sens. of the jogs on the vci , but that does not improve the precision ..
Reece Murray
13.10.2010
Crack is bad, mmmkay?

On the topic though, I still have no idea what you're saying. The "ramp up" issue was a vci firmware 1.1 issue - it never had anything to do with any version of Traktor. If your vci has fw 1.2 or greater, you're good to go. It might help us help you if you told us what settings your scratch commands are at. Fw 1.2-1.3 try 3% sensitivity, 4% acceleration. 1.4 try 1% sensitivity, 3% acceleration.
Leeanna Ayla
13.10.2010
Originally Posted by KADKAD
i cannot update my traktor version..
any other hints?
Is that because it's a cracked version?
Valencia Neudorfer
13.10.2010
changing to eans mapping has no effect... still the jog wheels feel very strange..
i cannot update my traktor version..
any other hints?
i uploaded my tsi .. maybe that helps..
thx in advance
Leeanna Ayla
13.10.2010
Are you still on 1.2.1? I would upgrade to 1.2.6. If your not open to that did you load the updated tks file in Ean's article or are you changing your own file? If your changing your own file maybe try Ean's at the end and see if that fixes it. If it does then you now it's in your mapping.
Valencia Neudorfer
14.10.2010
/bump
in my last post in this thread i posted that the problem has been solved.. but that was wrong.. just incidentally at testing it , it worked without problems...
but there is still exactly the same issues..
when i reconfigure my vci jog wheels to the old settings which cause the ramp up issue (even on a 1.2 fw this exists because the midi binds are the old ones) the jog wheels are very precise and accurate.. but when reconfiguring the jogs in order to get rid of the ramp up issue, my jogs wheels seem to be stiff and skip some signals..
so this has nothing to do with dirt etc. in my vci.. its simply a settings thing..
adjusting the sens of the jogs doesnt affect anything i noticed..
i hope anyone can provide a solution to this problem..
still using same equip as in post 1
Vernon Positano
06.05.2010
+1

The whaaa is usually generated by scratching over speech.
Reece Murray
04.05.2010
It's not a technique, it's a sound that's scratched and sampled a lot. You can find it on just about any battle/scratch record.

It's Aaahhh, being released, sometimes a little slow, producing the Whaahh that you hear. Just a dude's voice with a kinda white noise element to it. From "Ahhh, this stuff is really fresh". Fab 5 Freddy?
Klara Neiffer
04.05.2010
It's a noob question but how do you create the "waaah" sound ?
Valencia Neudorfer
21.04.2010
YEAY!

Got it fixed!
It was just a matter of touch-sensitivity settings for the jog wheels at the back of the VCI!
Valencia Neudorfer
20.04.2010
@MisterMoley: Yes! Just for testing , i changed the midi mapping again to the old configuration with the ramp up issue .. and scratching feels normal again! its very accurate and nice (except the ramp up bug)

When removing the ramp up issue by remapping, the scratching feels just terrible and inaccurate..

@Zac Kyoti ... when i press both scratch buttons - the jog wheels are turned off..
what does that mean ? which FW do i have ?

My settings for the jogs/scratch are on default! 3% / 0 %
also the sensitivity adjustments are must be OK , because scratching is just fine with the old TKS assigned deck scratch ON to C3 on deck A and C#3 on deck B..

but with the correct settings to remove ramp up issue (The TKS should be mapped to the A#2 and B2 notes ) scratching is just awkward and buggy.. not precise and not reacting accurately..

Reece Murray
19.04.2010
The ramp-up issue is non-existent for firmware 1.2 or 1.3 using any of Ean's TPro tsis. It was a FW 1.1 thing, or newer firmware coupled with old tks files from Traktor 3 that did not have the new notes from the new firmware mapped.

Your best bet is to modify your Scratch command settings. What are they at right now? Also, it sound s like you might need to play with the sensitivity adjustments on the back of the vci.
Doug Bieling
19.04.2010
Sorry dont have a fix but what do you mean you use the command for the ramp up issue as i would like to see if i can do this and see if the jogs feel better to scratch with with the ramp up issue (like you say though apart from the ramp up issue itself)

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