How to map DDM 4000 in Traktor 1.2.1
How to map DDM 4000 in Traktor 1.2.1 Posted on: 10.11.2009 by Assunta Doern Im rly noob with this, this ll be my first mapping.I have a DDM 4000 conected with a midi/usb to my PC, but i dont know to configure it in traktor. When i touch the DDM, the MIDI light in traktor dont blink... PS: i use a maya44 usb and windows 7 | |
| Millicent Chien 22.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by xerorane
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| Olene Minyard 10.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by Konix
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| Jacquie Whipp 10.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by Bunford
Preferences menu ~> Loading ~> uncheck "Reset all mixer controls when loading new track" |
| Olene Minyard 10.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by slangemenneske
All I want to be able to do is fully control the deck 1 and 2 Traktor tracks from cueing to EQs, kills, volume fader etc from Channels 1 and 4, hence why they are unmuted. Ideally, I want to send Deck 1 of Traktor to Channel 1 on DDM4000 and Deck 2 to Channel 4 on DDM4000. I've not muted these channels in DDM4000's MIDI settings to let the audio through. This is so that I can cue with DDM4000's PFL and utilise the DDM4000's effects section. However, I'm struggling to find a simple step by step tutorial/guide on how to set it up to utilise both sound cards (to use a sound card for each deck/channel). I could do this easily in Virtual DJ using the "2 Sound Card Setup" option. Both sound cards appear in Traktor, but can't seem to select to use both at the same time. Anyone got ideas on how the "Audio Setup" within Traktor should look so that I can split the decks to 2 sound cards, then to 2 channels on my DDM4000, which enables me to PFL and cue tracks via the mixer. (I'm using a Windows 7 laptop by the way) Will try the Hot Cue suggestion later when I get home from work. This setting up malarky takes longer than to learn how to DJ! Oh, and another little thing (probably easy to solve). When I load a new track, the EQs on Traktor seem to reset rather than stick to what are on the mixer. How do I configure it to not reset and stick with what's on the mixer? |
| Millicent Chien 22.12.2010 |
Originally Posted by xerorane
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| Nicholle Dibartolomeo 13.08.2010 | Oh and Im a newbie and not very tech savvy obviously so please go easy on me |
| Nicholle Dibartolomeo 13.08.2010 | You guys, I REALLY need help. Ive read every single thread on the ddm-4000 and I still cant solve my problem. I would like to temporarily use my DDM-4000 as a midi interface to control traktor using just my Macbook pro, a midi-usb cable and my DDM-4000. I have hooked up the macbook to the mixer using the cable and I have imported the traktor file to traktor. Heres my problem: When I try to mix, none of the functions on my mixer move the on-screen functions. The Light on my cable lights up when I move my cross fader and the "Midi" symbol at the top of traktor turns blue but the onscreen fader doesnt move. I am so frustrated as I have no Idea what im doing wrong. Please Help!! |
| Lanelle Angen 04.08.2010 | Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but in case anyone's still interested, here's the tail end of a (needlessly) long email conversation I had with someone from Behringer's tech support, after I failed to get the kill switch leds to stay lit in response to incoming midi messages from Traktor. If anyone has managed to get them to light, specifically when using 2 channels of the mixer for audio and 2 for midi, then feel free to contradict him. I'd love to know how to make this seemingly simple thing work... (oh, and ps. this is my first post here, but thanks to everyone who has helped me along the way during the 4 weeks or so that I've been setting up and using traktor, and reading all your contributions.) Customer 23/07/2010 08.51 AM OK. Thanks. Response (Ben O.) 23/07/2010 08.10 AM Hi Laurence, For the why not, this is just the way that it was designed and there's no apparent reason or explanation for it. In regards to a fix there is no official fix that exists I'm sorry to say. Kind regards Ben O. Customer 23/07/2010 01.12 AM Thanks again for the quick response, Ben, and sorry to go on about it. But my original questions were, 'Why not?', and 'Is there a fix?' Response (Ben O.) 22/07/2010 02.27 PM Hi Laurence, Sorry, I was looking at the other kill switches near the cross fader (long week). For the P1-P3 kill switches when assigned to MIDI these will light up briefly but will not stay lit. I hope this clarifies your question and if there is anything else I can answer please let me know. Kind regards Ben O. |
| Charlie Rodich 14.04.2010 | I was trying the mapping and then i came acros midi note ## while on Traktor its midi note E#1 E , C, C#1 etc ??? how do i know which is which ?? |
| Olene Minyard 10.02.2010 | I used ASIO4ALL and managed to suss it all out. I can get deck 1 running out of onboard sound card into Channel 1 on the DDM4000 and deck 2 out of the USB sound card into Channel 4 on the DDM4000. However, like you said above, I have to put in external mixer mode but as the mixer is in MIDI mode, I have no way of controlling the volume of the tracks or the crossfader. I can get most LEDs working etc, but yet to try the hot cues etc. I upgraded to 1.2.4 earlier, and noticed there's a few extra options in the preferences menu. I just don;t get why it's not available as it's obviously possible as Virtual DJ configurations allow you to map the way I want. However, for Virtual DJ, I can't seem to find a full working definition for the DDM4000 to allow me to start mapping it. This was the main reason I moved over to Traktor and now I've hit a stumbling block with that too. My friend runs a studio and has Traktor, Virtual DJ etc and I've basically 'borrowed' his software and license to try and figure this out before taking the plunge into buying a license myself. |
| Delila Vandommelen 10.02.2010 | After a bit of fiddling, the new hotcue status led outputs from Traktor Pro 1.2.3+ work in midi mode with with the ddm, which is neat. For kicks, I've got the left high/mid/low switches on the crossfader mapped as hotcue 1/2/3 with visual status. CF ON, when held down, activates a modifier which allows you to unset the three cue points by pressing the buttons (just like the hotcue buttons on the X1). I can post the .tsi I have for that so far if you want to see how that can work (needs the DDM to be on midi channel 2). However - I'm afraid your plan of controlling the internal mixer, in external mode, with the midi pots will not bear fruition. If you want to be able to separate deck 1 and 2 into two different outputs to route into your hardware mixer, you need to use Traktor in external mode. And in external mixer mode, Traktor Pro does not allow you to touch the internal volume faders - they're disabled. The program used to prevent EQ adjustments as well, but they brought this back in by popular demand - so you can still map the internal EQs. If I remember correctly both worked in Traktor 3 (they were a source of confusion sometimes for obvious reasons - "oh hey why can't I hear squat ? oh wait I forgot to reset the internal EQs"). Of course, since the DDM's channels are in midi mode, you can't use the faders, so your tracks will play at full volume. Trying to map Traktor's internal gain knobs to the mixer's volume channels in midi mode is a dead end (you usually can't cut the volume with Traktor's internal gains, they're not -∞). So in short, just use the external mixer controls, don't map the channels in midi. The mixer is decent enough for that. Unfortunate for your wishes of kill switch lights but, at least we tried ! Back to the multiple sound cards issue, which is relevant regardless of what you do : again, to make multiple sound ards appear as one, we need to know if you're on a mac or a pc. Lookup "aggregate device" on the community and you should find some documentation on this matter - Mac OS has a built-in feature for that and on windows you want ASIO4ALL. (edit : meh, I can't read, you did say windows 7 in the post above ! ) In general it would be helpful to state your Traktor version as well as not all of what I posted above is true in some versions. |
| Olene Minyard 10.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by Konix
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| juan garcia 10.02.2010 | welcome to the community
s konix! I got serato a couple weeks ago and your videos were very helpful thanks |
| Jacquie Whipp 10.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by Bunford
Preferences menu ~> Loading ~> uncheck "Reset all mixer controls when loading new track" |
| Olene Minyard 10.02.2010 |
Originally Posted by slangemenneske
All I want to be able to do is fully control the deck 1 and 2 Traktor tracks from cueing to EQs, kills, volume fader etc from Channels 1 and 4, hence why they are unmuted. Ideally, I want to send Deck 1 of Traktor to Channel 1 on DDM4000 and Deck 2 to Channel 4 on DDM4000. I've not muted these channels in DDM4000's MIDI settings to let the audio through. This is so that I can cue with DDM4000's PFL and utilise the DDM4000's effects section. However, I'm struggling to find a simple step by step tutorial/guide on how to set it up to utilise both sound cards (to use a sound card for each deck/channel). I could do this easily in Virtual DJ using the "2 Sound Card Setup" option. Both sound cards appear in Traktor, but can't seem to select to use both at the same time. Anyone got ideas on how the "Audio Setup" within Traktor should look so that I can split the decks to 2 sound cards, then to 2 channels on my DDM4000, which enables me to PFL and cue tracks via the mixer. (I'm using a Windows 7 laptop by the way) Will try the Hot Cue suggestion later when I get home from work. This setting up malarky takes longer than to learn how to DJ! Oh, and another little thing (probably easy to solve). When I load a new track, the EQs on Traktor seem to reset rather than stick to what are on the mixer. How do I configure it to not reset and stick with what's on the mixer? |
| Delila Vandommelen 10.02.2010 |
1) Only seem to be getting a master volume out of the headphones (even with 'mix' on the headphones section all the way down). Can't just listen to the track I wanna cue.
In any case you will have to map the EQs to midi controls.
Is there any way I can run Deck 1 of Traktor through the onboard sound card into the unmuted Channel 1 on the DDM4000, and Deck 2 of Traktor through the USB sound card output into the unmuted Channel 4 of the DDM4000.
When I assign loop in or loop out to a button on the DDM4000, and then assign output LED control (invert ticked and unticked as I tried both), the light only comes on when the button is pressed as loop in and loop out buttons only have the 'trigger' action. Any way around this to get it to light up all the time, and maybe go off when pressed instead of off all the time and only coming on when pressed? Like I said, I tried the invert ticking box.
is there any way to have Hot Cue 1, Hot Cue 2, Hot Cue 3 etc in Traktor? In Virtual DJ I know I can assign buttons to Hot Cue 1, Hot Cue 2 etc etc, then when I press them the track jumps back and plays from that cue point, kind of like a stutter effect cue. Just wana use three different hot cue buttons for each deck and not sure how to configure them.
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| Olene Minyard 09.02.2010 | All good info. Cheers! I actually played with it earlier. I've figured it out to an extent. I got my kill switches lighting up blue and changing to amber when in 'on' state (for the switches that have amber and blue lights). I've also managed to put both lights on some buttons, making a cool purple colour. However, having issues with a couple of things. They are: 1) Only seem to be getting a master volume out of the headphones (even with 'mix' on the headphones section all the way down). Can't just listen to the track I wanna cue. 2) I'm trying to set it up so that everything possible on the DDM4000, including Channel 1, 2, 3 and Channel 4 are MIDI assigned but Channel 1 and 4 only are unmuted, and trying to run deck 1 on Traktor through Channel 1 and Deck 2 on Traktor through Channel 4. I have the laptop's onboard sound card with a stereo output, and also have a separate USB sound card with a stereo phono out. Is there any way I can run Deck 1 of Traktor through the onboard sound card into the unmuted Channel 1 on the DDM4000, and Deck 2 of Traktor through the USB sound card output into the unmuted Channel 4 of the DDM4000. Is this possible? 3) When I assign loop in or loop out to a button on the DDM4000, and then assign output LED control (invert ticked and unticked as I tried both), the light only comes on when the button is pressed as loop in and loop out buttons only have the 'trigger' action. Any way around this to get it to light up all the time, and maybe go off when pressed instead of off all the time and only coming on when pressed? Like I said, I tried the invert ticking box. 4) The last thing, is there any way to have Hot Cue 1, Hot Cue 2, Hot Cue 3 etc in Traktor? In Virtual DJ I know I can assign buttons to Hot Cue 1, Hot Cue 2 etc etc, then when I press them the track jumps back and plays from that cue point, kind of like a stutter effect cue. Just wana use three different hot cue buttons for each deck and not sure how to configure them. Any help hugely appreciated. Cheers! |
| Jacquie Whipp 09.02.2010 | In Traktor, you could set the output to invert, so the light on the DDM will be on when the function is not in use (i.e. low kill), light off when in use. However, this means you have to assign every button on the DDM to some function in Traktor if you want the lights (on the DDM) to be on in the off state, off in the on state. Also note, on the DDM all of the 4 channels have to be assigned to MIDI in order for the LEDs to work, if even one channel is assigned as audio, then none of other channels' LEDs will light up in MIDI mode. So if you're using two channels for audio and the other two channels for MIDI, then the LEDs won't work on the two MIDI channels. Blinking? No, except if you output beat tick for a deck, then it'll flash to the beat. |
| Olene Minyard 09.02.2010 | I just come over to Traktor from Virtual DJ. I was using the trial version and trying to link the DDM4000 to it to convince me to buy it but the people over at Virtual DJ community
were quite snobbish towards non-license owners. Instead, they have lost a customer and I have now bought Traktor as most people seem to prefer Traktor on community
s. I am happy mapping buttons and controls that are sent from the DDM4000 to Traktor. Should be easy enough (after all my headbanging against a wall trying to figure out VDJ). However, I want the LEDs always on, and then to blink (ideally) or turn off when in use. For example, I want all kills lit up, but when i kill the bass for the EQ bass kill switch to blink (or go off if blinking isn;t an option). Can this be easily done, rather than have them come on when in use and off when not is use? I want it set up like this so everything is easier to see in darker places. Cheers for all your help in advance! |
| Ernie Stieglitz 19.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by joshrobbs
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| Mozella Valinski 19.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by Breakz
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| Lenny Calmes 18.11.2009 | Not every one. The FX section doesnt go midi or the gray knobs or the cue buttons. I dont know why they didnt makethe whole thing midi. I would say its about 90% WEIRD. |
| Rhea Oxford 18.11.2009 | hello ! just wanted to ask something,does the DDM 4000 send MIDI commands from every single fader,key and knob? thanks! |
| Lenny Calmes 16.11.2009 | SEnt |
| Assunta Doern 15.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by joshrobbs
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| Lenny Calmes 13.11.2009 | Nice congrats man!. Def a better description by xerorane with the pics. In regard to the leds this is what I was telling you about earlier. You have to map these as well. They are mapped as an outout. There is a chart in your manual that tells you the cc for each light that can be mapped. For example I use the buttons on crossfader section for play-sync-cup-loop on. So all you do is select output ranther than input and map everything the same. Than you just pick the cc from yourchart and your good. I know this might be a little confusing as your learning this shit but I was in your shoes as well & sites like this where people help you out is how I learned so I hope I am helpfull to you. If not hopefully xerorane will post another pic book to help you. Like I said before I can send you my tsi if you like. |
| Delila Vandommelen 13.11.2009 | Yep, they don't get any audio. The track volume is in no way sent across to the mixer through midi because these leds are pretty much in a world of their own. If you have audio sources plugged into each channel, they'll blink. What you CAN map, though, is the leds on all those kill buttons. |
| Assunta Doern 11.11.2009 | Now is working!! Thx a lot to all who help me When i select a part of the mixer to work like MIDI, (eg Mic secction) it works perfect whit the midi mapping, but the light dont blink, never. Its normal? |
| Mozella Valinski 11.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by OO-OO
Since im bored I'm going to make a walk-through on setting up your DDM 4000. Ok well start with the things we need Behringer ddm4000 Midi to USB I use M-Audio Midisport Uno http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno.html PC/Mac Traktor Scratch Pro 1.2.1 (not sure if thats the lastest update) Ok after we have everything we need we now need to set up Traktor. First go to Preferences>Controller Management>Select Generic Midi form Device Menu Box Then click on import at the bottom of the Preferences it will open up another window with three folders Default Setting, Keyboard Settings, and Midi Mapping Click on Midi Mapping>Behringer>Behringer DDM4000.tsi and click open It will now open with another window Select Categories to import click ok. Now we set up the Behringer DDM4000 Press and Hold the Console setup knob it will go into a setup box Scroll Down to MIDI settings It will now change to a MIDI Set Box select and click on what parts of the DDM 4000 you want to use as a MIDI DON'T FORGET TO SELECT YOU CHANNELS! You can use FX 2 to scroll and select your Channels Your DDM 4000 should now be midi enabled test it out and your MIDI box at the top should light up when using your mixer I would of posted more pics but the community only let me put up 6. I hope this helps I wasn't sure where to start with this walk-through so I started with the basics and tried to be thorough as possible. |
| Delila Vandommelen 11.11.2009 | Does the midi interface even show up anywhere ? |
| Assunta Doern 11.11.2009 | Nothing works I tried to load a mapping for the DDM4000 in the traktor, and also, it didnt work, traktor ISNT receiving any midi... |
| Jeanelle Noesi 11.11.2009 | I |
| Lenny Calmes 11.11.2009 | OK see the drop down that on your first pic says generic keyboard? Right below that says add. Add a generic midi. After that start in the ADD IN button from there you will find all your controls. For example. Transport/ Play Pause/. Then you hit learn button and press the button you want to be play. Then in the assignment dropdown pick which deck you want the play to be for. (Also these are usually first set as a hold button, meaning you have to hold it to play) Just change to toggle. I just learned to add the led to this as well. For that you hit the button that says add out. then you mimic all your above assignments then you look at your manual for the ddm and it tells you the cc to assign for every light on the mixer. ( When you are in midi mode on the ddm it shuts your leds off) |
| Assunta Doern 11.11.2009 |
Originally Posted by joshrobbs
And the ddm dosnt appear in the "device" menu: WTF!??! thx for help |
| Lenny Calmes 10.11.2009 | Hey bro, You have to click o prfrences in traktor and go to midi mapping. From there you have options 1) map your own or use the generic mapping. To makr your own which allow you to assign every knob/ button/ slider to control a function with the learn button. Some are easier than others especially if your new to this. I can send you my tsi file for you to import if you like but mine is setup for 4 channels. No effects mapped to this. My old setup had the 2 middle channels of the mixer controlling effects & only using 2 channels. Let me know what you looking to do Ill help you if I can. I learned everything from trial & error and asking on boards like this. oh ya you also have to go to the ddm and hold down the center knob under the screen then scroll to mdi settings & click which sections of the mixer you are oing to use as midi. Hope this helps |
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