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EQ Knobs - Is there something like an acceleration option in Traktor Pro? Posted on: 30.12.2010 by Hermelinda Tuccillo Hi all! I own a Numark Mixtrack and I'm so far quite happy with it. My only problem for now is that the slightest possible turn of an EQ knob creates a difference of +-10% which is too much for me. My question is, is there an option to make them accelerate when turning, so left end is still -100% and right end is still +100%, but slight turn from 0% position creates a change of lets say +- 1-2% and acceleration compensates when rotating further to 100%. I hope you understand what I mean Since this is more of a traktor programming question I will ask my second question - is it possible to modify the Kill option so that when used it doesnt kill it to -100% but lets say to -50-60% so it doesn't sound so shallow. Thanks!EDIT: Here is a detailed list what I've tried so far so there are no duplications, the current setting is - KNOB/Direct mode (NOT working as desired, please read posts below for details) 1. Knob/Relative mode - Only rotates in the + section. -100% on the controller = 0% in traktor; 0% on controller = 66% in traktor. 100% controller = 100% traktor 2. Encoder/Relative mode = EQ jumps between -100% and +100% in traktor = unusable. | |
| Georgie Gratch 02.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Pencheff
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| robin loo 01.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
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| Hermelinda Tuccillo 01.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
read my first post and you will see where the problem is. i get +-10% change with the slightest possible turn which is too much, so i wanted something changed, maybe some acceleration that can make up for it, meaning start with 1% and in the middle accelerate so it ends at -100% |
| Hermelinda Tuccillo 30.12.2010 | Hi all! I own a Numark Mixtrack and I'm so far quite happy with it. My only problem for now is that the slightest possible turn of an EQ knob creates a difference of +-10% which is too much for me. My question is, is there an option to make them accelerate when turning, so left end is still -100% and right end is still +100%, but slight turn from 0% position creates a change of lets say +- 1-2% and acceleration compensates when rotating further to 100%. I hope you understand what I mean Since this is more of a traktor programming question I will ask my second question - is it possible to modify the Kill option so that when used it doesnt kill it to -100% but lets say to -50-60% so it doesn't sound so shallow. Thanks! EDIT: Here is a detailed list what I've tried so far so there are no duplications, the current setting is - KNOB/Direct mode (NOT working as desired, please read posts below for details) 1. Knob/Relative mode - Only rotates in the + section. -100% on the controller = 0% in traktor; 0% on controller = 66% in traktor. 100% controller = 100% traktor 2. Encoder/Relative mode = EQ jumps between -100% and +100% in traktor = unusable. |
| Paulita Rhoades 04.01.2011 | Hi there mate, i've come across a similar problem to this when mapping my lpd8 to the eq knobs. The controls on the lpd8 are (like yours) actual rotary knobs with a start, end and 0-127 midi values. The way i got around it was to set the whole range of my knob to the bottom half of the eq knob in traktor, this gave me double sensitivity in the range i use and got rid of 0 to + 100% (which i never use anyway). Here are the mapping settings: Interaction Mode: Direct Type of controller: Relative Fader / Knob Rotary Sensitivity: 71% Rotary acceleration: 0% This should help cover the big 15% or so jump around the zero mark as although it might still be in the travel, it will be further down the eq range and therefore less noticable. You could play about with the acceleration and see if it helps further but because you're not actually using a rotary encoder the bigger change in value because of a fast turn that the acceleration causes might put your knob out of sync with the position in traktor. Hope this has answered your question. Fozz |
| Lashay Walchak 03.01.2011 | And if you can't get them to be fully functional to 100% have them work to that 60% value you were looking to convert your kills to and leave your kills alone. You could map themto any value you wanted though by setting them to mode button direct and then the value tab opens below enter desired value. |
| Lashay Walchak 03.01.2011 | Set them to relative and put the accel and sensitivity super low like 5% and work your way up. I've experienced similar "go nuts" scenarios mapping scratch functions to my scs3s. You'll be surprised how much just a few % will make. |
| Georgie Gratch 02.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Pencheff
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| Hermelinda Tuccillo 02.01.2011 | My knob is exactly the same as the knob in traktor, meaning it ends at -100% (can't be rotated further) makes a click sound and feel on the 0% so you know it's 0% without looking and ends at +100%. So it's a regular knob. If you set this as a relative encoder it goes crazy, as far as I remember it was just jumping between -100% and +100% when rotating it. My problem is that this "click" sound at 0% is some contact plates in the knob itself sink in. The distance which you rotate it out of the spot where it has sinked is unsensitive (cheap hardware), meaning sensitivity comes back when you have rotated it completely out of there = -10% I have remapped my Mixtrack almost by myself, have set double and tripple modifiers by myself and have adjusted rotary sensitivity on my fx encoders, faders and jog wheels. I really know and understand all the stuff you've suggested to me so far. I will run some tests at home (again) and will make a detailed video, including everything you have suggested and the result of it. This will cost a shitload of time since I'm unfamiliar with video software |
| Leeanna Ayla 02.01.2011 | I'm sorry if I'm not understanding exactly, but you can tell Traktor a knob with an ending point is an endless encoder. his will let you set the acceleration and sensitivity which I believe is what you want to do. I'm not 100% sure this will solve your problem though since you can't tell traktor to only apply these settings to a certain point in the knob rotation and then make everything work as normal after that point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJ_5nBVA28 If this isn't what you're talking about I believe it's what everybody believes you're talking about which is why you keep getting the same suggestions. I don't have a mixtrack, but Traktor doesn't change what options the knob or button have available according to what controller you have hooked up. Actually if you know the CC note for the knob in question you could map this with no controller hooked up. There should be higher resolutions of the video available that are easier to see once youtube finishes processing the video. |
| Hermelinda Tuccillo 02.01.2011 | There are no suggestions. They suggest I set it in direct mode which I, as stated have done. The other suggestion is relative mode which I said I've tried and explained exactly what happened. |
| Leeanna Ayla 02.01.2011 | Have you tried the suggestions or are you just reading them and assuming they won't work? |
| Hermelinda Tuccillo 02.01.2011 | OK guys, I'm really grateful for your efforts to help me, but please take your time to actually understand what I'm saying, I really don't believe my English is that bad. Again - the problem is in the relatively cheap hardware - the slightest rotation out of the 0% makes a change of +-10%, which is too much for me. Lets say I can rotate it 10mm to left and 10mm to the right, where every 1mm is 10%. What I'm asking is if I can add an acceleration to that, which would have the effect of the first 3mm making a change of only 10-15% (instead of 30%) and after that compensate for this so -100% hardware and -100% software meet up well. If hope you understand.... |
| robin loo 01.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by tombruton69
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| Marguerite Truka 01.01.2011 | if its not a continious knob it makes more sence to set it as a direct control |
| Hermelinda Tuccillo 01.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
read my first post and you will see where the problem is. i get +-10% change with the slightest possible turn which is too much, so i wanted something changed, maybe some acceleration that can make up for it, meaning start with 1% and in the middle accelerate so it ends at -100% |
| robin loo 31.12.2010 | so where it the problem? if you want to get direct changes in the software (meaning increments of 1-2%) and +-100% in software = +-100% on hardware, change the knobs to direct mode. |
| Hermelinda Tuccillo 31.12.2010 | Ok guys, since noone of you seems to own a mixtrack I will explain further - the EQ knobs have a star and ending point. They are the same as simulated in traktor - meaning when you rotate them to the point where +-100% in traktor is, they can't be rotated further (on the mixtrack, meaning from the hardware). Setting the knob in relative mode gives the following result: -100% on the mixtrack = 0% in traktor. 0% in the mixtrack = +66% in traktor. +100% on the mixtrack = +100% in traktor. |
| Kecia Wnukowski 31.12.2010 | Knobs can be set as relative mode in traktor and so you should be able to define the settings to your liking. |
| Hermelinda Tuccillo 30.12.2010 | The EQ knobs are KNOBS, not encoders - they have a ending point at both ends, not freely rotatable. They are, of course, in direct mode, otherwise they wouldn't work. There is no rotary sensitivity option when using knobs in direct mode. Any other suggestions? |
| robin loo 30.12.2010 | try setting the knob to direct mode (instead of relative). |
| Kecia Wnukowski 30.12.2010 | I believe the rotary sensitivity setting would do the job for you yes. |
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