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Mapping a Traktor macro to LED on Maschine
Posted on: 14.02.2011 by Rosina Steinkuehler
Hello all!

I contacted NI recently on a question concerning LED feedback and he suggested I visit this community and post my question for the experts ..

I have created a number of custom mappings in traktor binded to my Maschine pads. All works great, I can press the button and the Macros are invoked etc.

However, since these macros are custom and no "function" exists in Traktor I am having a hard time getting LED feedback on the Maschine Pads when I invoke.

Is there an easy way to provide LED feedback back to the pad that is being depressed?

For anyone wanting to know a bit more specifics: My custom macros are things such as drop deck a, drop deck b, etc.

I can map a LED output back to a Maschine button for functions that exist in Traktor (such as record) with no issues -- its just my custom macros that I cannot figure out.

Thanks in advance!
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
However, when I change both of the modifiers to M1=1 I see no activity.
Hope i can explain. But i have to go, so short version.

Every Pad #1 to #16 have their dedicaded modifier state.

example
Pad#1 got M1=1
Pad#2 got M1=2
Pad#3 got M1=3
...
..
Pad#8 got M2=1
..
.
Pad#15 got M3=1
Pad#15 got M3=2

NOW IMPORTANT
The LED OUT must have the Range set of the Modifier's State

Pad#1 got M1=1 => LED OUT M1=> CONTROLLER RANGE min=1 max=1
Pad#2 got M1=2 => LED OUT M1=> CONTROLLER RANGE min=2 max=2



Hope you understand... good luck
Leeanna Ayla
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
Hello all!

I contacted NI recently on a question concerning LED feedback and he suggested I visit this community and post my question for the experts ..
NI really sent you here for that question. When you said macro and NI couldn't help you I though it was something strange and not and simple as this. Glad you got it sorted out!!
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
I was hoping to not use a modifier since there is only 8 of them.
Yeah.... just eight..

but every modifier could have 8 different state's.

M1=0(standart)
M1=1
M1=2
..
M1=7

M2=1
...
..
.


so for 16 buttons you need 3 Modifier's, to cover them
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
anyone wanting to know a bit more specifics

Thanks in advance!
me...


What must the Led monitor (modifier, fx on, ? ? ?)
what happen's when you press the Button, do you set a Modifier. Or want you just "Toggle"-Buttons with light?
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
Hello all!

I contacted NI recently on a question concerning LED feedback and he suggested I visit this community and post my question for the experts ..

I have created a number of custom mappings in traktor binded to my Maschine pads. All works great, I can press the button and the Macros are invoked etc.

However, since these macros are custom and no "function" exists in Traktor I am having a hard time getting LED feedback on the Maschine Pads when I invoke.

Is there an easy way to provide LED feedback back to the pad that is being depressed?

For anyone wanting to know a bit more specifics: My custom macros are things such as drop deck a, drop deck b, etc.

I can map a LED output back to a Maschine button for functions that exist in Traktor (such as record) with no issues -- its just my custom macros that I cannot figure out.

Thanks in advance!
Rosina Steinkuehler
15.02.2011
Perhaps but I could not get the Mod to reset to 0 without the 3rd rule matching M1=1 and setting back to 0.

Maybe I missed something subtle.

Either way I have 16 buttons all working but if you can describe how to make it work without the 3rd rule for each button that would save me 16 entries in my screen.

It's amazing how fast the controller manager screen can fill up.
Shirlee Depiazza
14.02.2011
I'm pretty sure your still over believeing it.
a Modifier with interaction type hold should:
Set Mod to 1 on press
On release set Mod to 0
UNLESS you latch/catch it. by setting the cond1 to M1 = 0.
If you don't set a cond1/2 it should just HOLD ON/OFF
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
I figured it out! My logic was all wrong. Too many computer programming languages in my head made me confuse how this works.

Create a modifier #1 in. Learn to your button. Type: Button, Interaction: Hold, Set to value 1
Create a modifier #1 in. Learn to your button. Type: Button, Interaction: Hold, Set to value 0 but set Modifier Contitions M1 to 1.
Finally add a output modifier #1 and manually set the output device mapping to the same midi note as above. Change controller range to 1 - 1.

That's all there is to it really. I rinse and repeated the above but started to increase M1 by 1 each time.

Thanks to everyone that replied!
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
Thanks for the help so far!

The further I go the more confused I get. For somer reason I am not seeing the same options that are shown on the screen shot. It somewhat makes sense but I do not understand why the toggle option is not present for the button mode when using a regular modifier.

I have attached a screen shot of the modifier. I should also note that I am using Traktor Pro S4.
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
read under... Magic Invert
http://www.djranking s.com/2011/02/0...rs/#more-10799
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
Ok, that part makes sense.

So far I now have the feedback but its more of a toggle. Trying to figure out how to set the value back to 0 upon button release.
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
However, when I change both of the modifiers to M1=1 I see no activity.
Hope i can explain. But i have to go, so short version.

Every Pad #1 to #16 have their dedicaded modifier state.

example
Pad#1 got M1=1
Pad#2 got M1=2
Pad#3 got M1=3
...
..
Pad#8 got M2=1
..
.
Pad#15 got M3=1
Pad#15 got M3=2

NOW IMPORTANT
The LED OUT must have the Range set of the Modifier's State

Pad#1 got M1=1 => LED OUT M1=> CONTROLLER RANGE min=1 max=1
Pad#2 got M1=2 => LED OUT M1=> CONTROLLER RANGE min=2 max=2



Hope you understand... good luck
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
Well I wish I had it completely figured out.

I setup a in modifier #1 and binded it to pad #1. Using button, hold.
Afterwards I added a out modifier #1.

So far so good, I press the button, I get feedback.

However, when I change both of the modifiers to M1=1 I see no activity.

Can someone help me sort this one out? I know it's simple to you guys but I need some hand holding here
Leeanna Ayla
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
Hello all!

I contacted NI recently on a question concerning LED feedback and he suggested I visit this community and post my question for the experts ..
NI really sent you here for that question. When you said macro and NI couldn't help you I though it was something strange and not and simple as this. Glad you got it sorted out!!
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
no problem...


but this i will print, and frame

Originally Posted by GeekGod
Is there an easy way to provide LED feedback back to the pad that is being depressed?
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
Ahh got it! Thank you very much!
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
I was hoping to not use a modifier since there is only 8 of them.
Yeah.... just eight..

but every modifier could have 8 different state's.

M1=0(standart)
M1=1
M1=2
..
M1=7

M2=1
...
..
.


so for 16 buttons you need 3 Modifier's, to cover them
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
if i understand you right, you want just Led Feedback from the Button you press (so you can see which button you pressed )
and if you release it, led off...

if this the case...
take a modifier just a fake-modifier
every button with "no real" function, is also Modifier1 = 1 (hold)

how many button "macro" button do you have ?
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
I was hoping to not use a modifier since there is only 8 of them.

Just wanting to see the key light up as I am pressing it down. I have that working just fine for tasks such as Load next track and such but when it comes to modifying 3 different eq's at once I am not sure how to get the button to give me feedback since there is no way to duplicate and set the output in the newer traktor.

EDIT: but if the only way to get this to work is using a modifier I guess I can sacrifice a few of them. Problem is I have about 16 of these custom crazy macros
Jacki Agrillo
14.02.2011
Originally Posted by GeekGod
anyone wanting to know a bit more specifics

Thanks in advance!
me...


What must the Led monitor (modifier, fx on, ? ? ?)
what happen's when you press the Button, do you set a Modifier. Or want you just "Toggle"-Buttons with light?
Rosina Steinkuehler
14.02.2011
I created a couple of items and bound them to one button.

For example in the screen shot I have 5 items such as modifying eq high, mid and low by pressing one button.

Does this help communicate my setup? This stuff can be pretty complicated.
Leeanna Ayla
14.02.2011
Tell us how you're creating these macros and that might open up some discussion.

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