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Traktor APC-40 Leds help ???(thnx in advance ^^)
Posted on: 04.05.2011 by Kena Trow
Hi i'm trying to find out how to use my leds's for a certain function on my apc

imagine the first row of 4 buttons as buttons with loop function's ex:
button-1 = 1 beat ; button 2 = 2 beats ; button 3 = 4 beats and button 4 = 8 beats

when the buttons are not pressed ( toggle on/off function) they should all have a red color and when i press like button 1 i want it to flicker yellow , but the 3 other buttons have 2 remain in red, if i then change a loop by pressing another button (ex:button 2 aka 2 beats) button 2 should flicker in yellow and 1,3, 4 should be red and so on ??? so that if djing and u press a loopbutton you can see it's on by watching it flicker

does any1 knows how to do this ???

i've tried it on 2 buttons with this conditions

i'm using the function : ( all for deck A)

Button1 (aka 1beat)
(INPUT)
-loopsize+set: button/direct value 1
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options invert
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options invert
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options value 1
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options value 0

(OUTPUT)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 0
controller range 0/0 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 1
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 0 / modifier 8 value 0
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 3/3 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 1 / modifier 8 value 1
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 2/2 (invert/blend = off)

Button2 ( aka 2 beats)
(INPUT)
-loopsize+set: button/direct value 2
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options invert
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options invert
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options value 0
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options value 2

(OUTPUT)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 0
controller range 0/0 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 1
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 0 / modifier 8 value 0
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 3/3 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 1 / modifier 8 value 2
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 2/2 (invert/blend = off)

it kinda works a little/how it works for now is that when i press loop button-1 it flickers yellow when i repress it it is red
if i press button-1 and it's in loopmode it flickers yellow if i then press button 2, button 2 flickers in yellow but button-1 is off(no colour) when i then repress button-2 while it was looping flickering and button one was off it then jumps back to both red

hope someone can help me out this is realy a difficult one (for me) ^^
Nedra Fresneda
04.05.2011
Originally Posted by yann_
nice also works ^^ ure tha man thnx can we go further on stuff i'm looking for to do ???
Why not?
Nedra Fresneda
04.05.2011
Originally Posted by yann_
when i than press a hotcue button the loop is released but the loopbutton keeps on flashing how do i turn it off ???

Adding inverted send monitor states to your hotcue buttons
Eddie Maina
03.05.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
I sold my APC so i might get the velocity numbers wrong but if my memory isn't tricking me:
0: off
1: solid green
2: flashing green
3: solid yellow
4: flashing yellow
5: solid red
6: flashing red
7-127: solid green

Spreading the range is the way to go. The Possible lengths are: 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, meaning there are 11 possible steps. Controller range will be 0-10 so you just need to locate the specific range for each button so it lights only when said length is set.

Example:

Button 1, 1 beat loop:

IN
Loop Size + Set Deck X
Button
Direct > 1

OUT
Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5 (it is imperative to have min and max values match so it only switches to it's on state when it's at the right lengt)
Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF (otherwise it will chain the buttons, kinda like a progress bar)

Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5
Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

You must map these two states for each button, adapting the controller range to the size you want. So button 2 would be:

Button 2, 2 beat loop:

IN
Loop Size + Set Deck X
Button
Direct > 2

OUT
Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

PS: map an inverted send monitor state command for each button to ensure lights are updated (no need for modifiers here)
sick. dude.
Kena Trow
04.05.2011
Hi i'm trying to find out how to use my leds's for a certain function on my apc

imagine the first row of 4 buttons as buttons with loop function's ex:
button-1 = 1 beat ; button 2 = 2 beats ; button 3 = 4 beats and button 4 = 8 beats

when the buttons are not pressed ( toggle on/off function) they should all have a red color and when i press like button 1 i want it to flicker yellow , but the 3 other buttons have 2 remain in red, if i then change a loop by pressing another button (ex:button 2 aka 2 beats) button 2 should flicker in yellow and 1,3, 4 should be red and so on ??? so that if djing and u press a loopbutton you can see it's on by watching it flicker

does any1 knows how to do this ???

i've tried it on 2 buttons with this conditions

i'm using the function : ( all for deck A)

Button1 (aka 1beat)
(INPUT)
-loopsize+set: button/direct value 1
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options invert
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options invert
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options value 1
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options value 0

(OUTPUT)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 0
controller range 0/0 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 1
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 0 / modifier 8 value 0
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 3/3 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 1 / modifier 8 value 1
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 2/2 (invert/blend = off)

Button2 ( aka 2 beats)
(INPUT)
-loopsize+set: button/direct value 2
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options invert
-send monitor state: button/trigger modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options invert
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 0 button options value 0
-Modifier-8:button/direct modifier conditions is in loop value 1 button options value 2

(OUTPUT)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 0
controller range 0/0 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Loopsize+set: modifier conditions is in loop value 1
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 0/0 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 0 / modifier 8 value 0
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 3/3 (invert/blend = off)
-Is in loop: modifier conditions is in loop value 1 / modifier 8 value 2
controller range 1/1 ; midi range 2/2 (invert/blend = off)

it kinda works a little/how it works for now is that when i press loop button-1 it flickers yellow when i repress it it is red
if i press button-1 and it's in loopmode it flickers yellow if i then press button 2, button 2 flickers in yellow but button-1 is off(no colour) when i then repress button-2 while it was looping flickering and button one was off it then jumps back to both red

hope someone can help me out this is realy a difficult one (for me) ^^
Dusti Counsil
04.05.2011
OK got it somewhat working. I was a dummy and was mapping a send monitor OUTPUT. Well now whats happening is the buttons are staying lit and mapped correctly but they ALL light up and flash regardless of which loop button is pressed. I made sure everything was addressed properly but maybe since send monitor is global this is how it will have to be. Thanks a ton PADI...you're the man!

KC
Kena Trow
04.05.2011
k cool is there a way to, whenever i start traktor that on my apc the parameters for example i use the knobs for eq but whenever i start traktor on the program it stays like how i left it when i closed traktor but on my apc when i start it everything is turned down the leds are on, @ the most left ledlight around the knob i always have to turn em so that it functions is there a way that my apc can recall the last settings from knobs etc...
Nedra Fresneda
04.05.2011
Originally Posted by yann_
nice also works ^^ ure tha man thnx can we go further on stuff i'm looking for to do ???
Why not?
Kena Trow
04.05.2011
nice also works ^^ ure tha man thnx can we go further on stuff i'm looking for to do ???
Nedra Fresneda
04.05.2011
Originally Posted by yann_
when i than press a hotcue button the loop is released but the loopbutton keeps on flashing how do i turn it off ???

Adding inverted send monitor states to your hotcue buttons
Kena Trow
04.05.2011
This works for me ^^nice one now let's go more deeper into it i'll keep you guys updated

the other thing i'm trying to do now is that

when a loop is active ( aka blinking)

when i than press a hotcue button the loop is released but the loopbutton keeps on flashing how do i turn it off ???

Nedra Fresneda
03.05.2011
did you assing a send monitor state to the loop active button? did you delete/disable any previous mapping that might be conflicting?
Dusti Counsil
03.05.2011
Very strange. Actually works if I click on the loop set with the mouse not the APC button. Or if I hit the button to the right ,which I have assigned for size and set - 8 button, the button to the left which is assigned to loop size 4 works properly. Just doesn't work when I hit the actual button Im wanting to use for loop.
Dusti Counsil
03.05.2011
Thanks Padi for the info! I followed this exactly and Im still not getting proper results. The button lights solid orange but does not turn off when loop is deactivated. Proper controller settings are assigned and an inverted send monitor was mapped as well. Seems like Im fighting a losing battle.
Eddie Maina
03.05.2011
Originally Posted by padi_04
I sold my APC so i might get the velocity numbers wrong but if my memory isn't tricking me:
0: off
1: solid green
2: flashing green
3: solid yellow
4: flashing yellow
5: solid red
6: flashing red
7-127: solid green

Spreading the range is the way to go. The Possible lengths are: 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, meaning there are 11 possible steps. Controller range will be 0-10 so you just need to locate the specific range for each button so it lights only when said length is set.

Example:

Button 1, 1 beat loop:

IN
Loop Size + Set Deck X
Button
Direct > 1

OUT
Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5 (it is imperative to have min and max values match so it only switches to it's on state when it's at the right lengt)
Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF (otherwise it will chain the buttons, kinda like a progress bar)

Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5
Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

You must map these two states for each button, adapting the controller range to the size you want. So button 2 would be:

Button 2, 2 beat loop:

IN
Loop Size + Set Deck X
Button
Direct > 2

OUT
Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

PS: map an inverted send monitor state command for each button to ensure lights are updated (no need for modifiers here)
sick. dude.
Nedra Fresneda
03.05.2011
I sold my APC so i might get the velocity numbers wrong but if my memory isn't tricking me:
0: off
1: solid green
2: flashing green
3: solid yellow
4: flashing yellow
5: solid red
6: flashing red
7-127: solid green

Spreading the range is the way to go. The Possible lengths are: 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, meaning there are 11 possible steps. Controller range will be 0-10 so you just need to locate the specific range for each button so it lights only when said length is set.

Example:

Button 1, 1 beat loop:

IN
Loop Size + Set Deck X
Button
Direct > 1

OUT
Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5 (it is imperative to have min and max values match so it only switches to it's on state when it's at the right lengt)
Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF (otherwise it will chain the buttons, kinda like a progress bar)

Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
Controller Range: MIN 5 - MAX 5
Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

You must map these two states for each button, adapting the controller range to the size you want. So button 2 would be:

Button 2, 2 beat loop:

IN
Loop Size + Set Deck X
Button
Direct > 2

OUT
Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=1 (active)
Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
Midi Range: MIN 4 (flashing yellow) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

Loop Size Deck X
Modifier: Deck X is in Loop=0 (deactivated)
Controller Range: MIN 6 - MAX 6
Midi Range: MIN 5 (solid red) - MAX 5 (solid red)
Invert: OFF
Blend: OFF

PS: map an inverted send monitor state command for each button to ensure lights are updated (no need for modifiers here)
Dusti Counsil
03.05.2011
Problem solved with a toggle option and specific loop out per size. I tried setting the controller number to correspond (-0,1,2,3, etc.) per instance of loop size and set I wanted to use but still no dice. Modifiers just became too confusing for me and I just figured Id have to live without this option. Hopefully Padi has some good news. =)
Nedra Fresneda
03.05.2011
saving this to answer when i get home
Kena Trow
03.05.2011
i'm looking for this function 6months now still couldn't find a way to sort it out ^^ hoped someone here could help me out
Dusti Counsil
03.05.2011
The problem is getting an LED for each specific loop size to light then turn off. Ive tried everything.
Dusti Counsil
03.05.2011
I have been trying to get this sorted out for a week. Seems like there is no way to do it properly. if you have figured anything out or have a workaround please let me know. This is the last thing I need to set up with Traktor and my APC.

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