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How to make TP2 sync work like TP:
Posted on: 09.04.2011 by Genie Sebring
I wanted to share this with you if anyone's interested, I've seen a few threads with people having this problem
Ok so sync on the Traktor Pro, you could just double tap it once you have loaded the track to quickly get your bpm to the master so you could then beatmatch by ear if you wanted where on TP2 once you turn it off it will reset back to the original bpm (it wont do this if its playing though)
Also on the old one you could pitchbend and the sync would turn off, where on this one it wont so if you pitchbend then want to sync you have to press it twice, once to turn it off, then again to sync it.
So here's how to map it...

1. add in a tempo sync, assign your deck, 'learn' to your sync button
2. add in a beat sync, assign your deck, 'learn' to your sync button, assign mode to 'toggle'
3. duplicate the beat sync, 'learn' to bitchbend left, change mode to 'direct' and make sure the value is set to '0'
(you may want to add a modifier so this only works when the deck is playing to stop you accidentally turning sync off if you knock it when its not playing, to do this - set the first modifier to 'play/pause' and its value to '1'
4. duplicate the one above and 'learn' to pitchbend right
5. if your using a controller like an X1 and want to have the LED working - add out, select beat sync, assign deck, then select the correct sync button from the menus (you cant learn when adding an output)

Note: I found a bug in this where if you load a track with sync on, then turn it off the bpm changes to a random bpm, but then turn it on and off again its fine, so if your not going to really turn it off dont worry about it, just be aware of it, if you are going to turn it off like i do as i dj with CD's too, then just duplicate the pitchbend one, but 'learn' to the load button for that deck and take the modifier off.
so sync will always be off when you load a track, so you press once to sync, or double tap to sync bpm but turn it off (instead of three times because of the bug)
This really should'nt happen because the tempo sync should match the bpm to the master every time you press sync, regardless of whether your turning the beat sync on or off, hopefully this will be sorted in the next update and you can then take this step off

When you duplicate these to use for another deck remember you have to change which deck you want it assigned to, especially for the modifications as its easy to forget as you cant see what deck its on

Tip: if you use an X1 and pitchbend more than you would skip forwards and backwards a beat like me, then swap them round, so you dont have to hold shift

Sorry about the long winded post, hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions just ask, and if it did help just leave a thanks because it would be interesting to see if I helped anyone or if no one cares haha

Peace
Brett

update:
* im still finding that bug with the load button turning sync off, i tried it making it turn it on too, so im still working on it, its not too much of a problem though
i believe its the tempo sync and the beat sync on the same button, traktor doesnt like it, hopefully it can get ironed out in the update but il ask N.I. about it
what i have done to get around the problem is you un-assign anything i said to put on the load botton
and changed the tempo sync from the sync button to shift and sync
so i use sync button for digital, and shift+sync for djing with CD's
feel free to try the other method out first as someone told me it worked perfect for them
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Genie Sebring
09.04.2011
I wanted to share this with you if anyone's interested, I've seen a few threads with people having this problem
Ok so sync on the Traktor Pro, you could just double tap it once you have loaded the track to quickly get your bpm to the master so you could then beatmatch by ear if you wanted where on TP2 once you turn it off it will reset back to the original bpm (it wont do this if its playing though)
Also on the old one you could pitchbend and the sync would turn off, where on this one it wont so if you pitchbend then want to sync you have to press it twice, once to turn it off, then again to sync it.
So here's how to map it...

1. add in a tempo sync, assign your deck, 'learn' to your sync button
2. add in a beat sync, assign your deck, 'learn' to your sync button, assign mode to 'toggle'
3. duplicate the beat sync, 'learn' to bitchbend left, change mode to 'direct' and make sure the value is set to '0'
(you may want to add a modifier so this only works when the deck is playing to stop you accidentally turning sync off if you knock it when its not playing, to do this - set the first modifier to 'play/pause' and its value to '1'
4. duplicate the one above and 'learn' to pitchbend right
5. if your using a controller like an X1 and want to have the LED working - add out, select beat sync, assign deck, then select the correct sync button from the menus (you cant learn when adding an output)

Note: I found a bug in this where if you load a track with sync on, then turn it off the bpm changes to a random bpm, but then turn it on and off again its fine, so if your not going to really turn it off dont worry about it, just be aware of it, if you are going to turn it off like i do as i dj with CD's too, then just duplicate the pitchbend one, but 'learn' to the load button for that deck and take the modifier off.
so sync will always be off when you load a track, so you press once to sync, or double tap to sync bpm but turn it off (instead of three times because of the bug)
This really should'nt happen because the tempo sync should match the bpm to the master every time you press sync, regardless of whether your turning the beat sync on or off, hopefully this will be sorted in the next update and you can then take this step off

When you duplicate these to use for another deck remember you have to change which deck you want it assigned to, especially for the modifications as its easy to forget as you cant see what deck its on

Tip: if you use an X1 and pitchbend more than you would skip forwards and backwards a beat like me, then swap them round, so you dont have to hold shift

Sorry about the long winded post, hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions just ask, and if it did help just leave a thanks because it would be interesting to see if I helped anyone or if no one cares haha

Peace
Brett

update:
* im still finding that bug with the load button turning sync off, i tried it making it turn it on too, so im still working on it, its not too much of a problem though
i believe its the tempo sync and the beat sync on the same button, traktor doesnt like it, hopefully it can get ironed out in the update but il ask N.I. about it
what i have done to get around the problem is you un-assign anything i said to put on the load botton
and changed the tempo sync from the sync button to shift and sync
so i use sync button for digital, and shift+sync for djing with CD's
feel free to try the other method out first as someone told me it worked perfect for them
Samual Ogura
13.10.2011
Somewhere along the same lines as this topic: in TP1, with a track loaded, but not playing, tapping sync twice would set the tempo to master then LEAVE IT THERE. My problem in TP2 is that it assumes you didn't mean to sync if the deck is not playing, and the master tempo only sticks with the track once it starts playing. I would like to be able to apply the master tempo to the track, but leave sync off so I can nudge into place myself, or cue juggle right away. Does this problem make sense? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Dallas Wirth
10.10.2011
I gave up and wen't back to Traktor 1.2.8 but I'll give it another go and get back to you with the updated info from photojojo.
Leeanna Ayla
06.10.2011
There's a couple of things that could be messing this up. The first one is the jog tempo bend command has been renamed to jog turn. The second is the sync phase when exiting loop was removed which messes with sync modes so that you can't do manual nudging to get it back in sync.

I'm still a little fuzzy on some of this so hopefully someone else can come in and explain better or correct me if I'm wrong.
Milagro Maristela
05.10.2011
i had mine set up the way i wanted when you last posted this guide... since the new update, its reset, now i can't seem to get it to work again?? #frustration
Dallas Wirth
19.04.2011
Hey Brett.

I tried to follow your instructions as per above but I got stuck at this part :

3. duplicate the beat sync, 'learn' to pitchbend left.

I couldn't find a pitchbend left (or right), I tried to map to the tempo slider on my cdj 2000 (believeing maybe thats what you meant) but it didn't work either? Sorry for being a little slow here just not sure what you meant.
Genie Sebring
11.04.2011
no problem!
tell me how it goes
and iv updated the post by the way, some people aren't getting the bug like i did, i dont believe so anyway lol
Dallas Wirth
11.04.2011
Thanks alot I'm away for the week but am already chomping at the bit to try all this, thanks! I'll be sure to let you know how I get on.
Thanks again!
Genie Sebring
10.04.2011
ye it looks long winded, but once you have done it you can do it in less time than it takes to read half my post haha
ok so, 1. when i use CD's i use actual CD's and not time coded so im probs not the best to ask for this, on the CD player do you have track 2 selected?
theres something on the inside of the timecode CD case that tells you that tracks 1, 2 and 3 do different things
you probably know this and more about it than me lol, so sorry if you did, just pointing it out just incase, so sorry if i couldnt help you on that one.
2nd one is a strange one, if you have initially cue to load marker ticked and have a load marker down it should work, it does on mine. All i can suggest is maybe locking the beatgrid if it isnt done and delete the load marker and put it back while in TP2
it may be another option you have ticked or unticked but its hard to know without seeing it, but NI might be your best bet there
3rd one i can do :P
if i understand it right, delete whatever you have mapped to that button, unless you want it to do that at the same time
then add in, cue/loops>, set/select+store hotcue
then assign deck
'learn' to button you want
it should already be set to button and hold, dont believe you can pick anything else
then at the bottom select the value, which will either be 'hotcue 1' or 'hotcue 2', this depends on how you have mapped your tracks, i for example i have my beat grid as the first thing that goes down, so it has a 1 at the top of the marker, therefore its hotcue 1 and my load cue second so its number 2, then i have the rest for loops or cue points
if your not sure how you have done it it will have a number at the top of the cue marker
but you need to be consistent on how you put your markers down or this obv wont work lol
hope this makes sense, just message back if iv confused you somewhere, or if you havent put the markers down consistently and you have loads of tracks and dont fancy going through checking them all, theres more than one way to skin a cat lol so il figure another way for you if you need it
Dallas Wirth
10.04.2011
Hey mate,

Thnks heaps for this! seems like a pain in the arse but I'll try it out. I have a gig in a few weeks coming up and I'll be using X3 CD2000. Like you I will be swapping between CD's and TSP2. I'm shitting because It will be the first time I've used any CDJ 2000's with TSP2 in HID mode. I hired one this weekend to test it out and seems to go ok however 3 new ones will be a different story. I will also have to updat the firmware on them if they are not up to date when I get there. This is a bit nerve racking as I could fuck them all together! haha.

Here are a list of questions I'm aslo going to be ringing NI and asking them about

TSP2 Questions

1. Using HID mode Why can I not scroll back though track in CDJ mode like a real CDJ? Using Vinyl mode is ok but not CDJ mode

2. Why Do load markers still load wrong ie. when I select and mount a track it
Genie Sebring
09.04.2011
thanks for the reply
glad to help! it took me a while to figure it out lol
did you get the bug too? wondering if it was just me
Venetta Cawyer
09.04.2011
Thanks! I vote sticky because this was driving me nuts and I can only guess others had the same probmem..

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