Filter 0% mapping for a knob Hi,
I know I just saw some reference to this issue somewhere recently but I cant for the life of me find it. Hoping somebody can help..
I have a knob that I use for traktors internal filter. The problem is that when I put it to 12 o'clock, it sometimes stays on 2% or so (+ its hard to tell in traktor if its only slightly off center).
I was believeing that I could adjust the mapping so that the knob basically turns the little circled light (in traktor right next to the filter knob on the screen) off when I reach 0% and then turns it back on when I go +/- 1% or more.
Can anybody guide me in the right direction here?
Can I do this all via a single command for filter ON or do I need multiple commands? |
Chasidy Heckenbach
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Got ya..thnx for explanation.. If u only have one pot for one function, it seems like its the way to go tho, ya? So in other words, the physical location of the knob will correspond to the software knob location always, right?
if u have one pot for one job then u dont need soft takeover. or if u enable it it won't have any effect - since they'll always be in sync anyway
The only issue i can believe of is that this knob controls filter in traktor and its a deck focus mapping.. U believe thatll cause any troubles? Nonetheless, ill give a try soon and report back.
not sure about deck focus stuff - i always explicitly specify what deck i want to control in the mapping |
Cliff Lohman
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
it's useful when using one pot to control different parameters. the software control won't start to move until u position the real pot at the same location as the software one. personally i hate it and so don't use one pot for more than one function - this is where encoders are better as they don't have a fixed start or end point.
Got ya..thnx for explanation.. If u only have one pot for one function, it seems like its the way to go tho, ya? So in other words, the physical location of the knob will correspond to the software knob location always, right?
The only issue i can believe of is that this knob controls filter in traktor and its a deck focus mapping.. U believe thatll cause any troubles? Nonetheless, ill give a try soon and report back. |
Chasidy Heckenbach
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
No idea what that does but ill give it a try!
thnx
it's useful when using one pot to control different parameters. the software control won't start to move until u position the real pot at the same location as the software one. personally i hate it and so don't use one pot for more than one function - this is where encoders are better as they don't have a fixed start or end point. |
Cliff Lohman
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by oakich
just turn on "soft takeover" for the knob, i believe that will solve your problems!
No idea what that does but ill give it a try!
thnx |
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ_dB
Not needed. If it has a different note value for the center, map that value to Filter On, Direct to value 0. That is very useful.
i know the idj doesn't need extra middleware software, just saying that u could for a controller that doesn't send out the extra midi.
and yep, the idj has a rather cool midi spec. you'd believe they'd have skipped on that part and done the minimum for such a budget controller. |
Samual Ogura
22.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
my cheapo idj does that. every knob sends a noteon when it hits the center spot as well as the usual cc for every position - it's very useful. the pots are too close together to be a great mixer for usual use, but as a small all-on-one it can do just about everything, the midi spec has been very well thought out.
you could use something like bomes or midimasher ofc to pass thru all data but also send out the additional needed midi data when a pot hits that center spot.
Not needed. If it has a different note value for the center, map that value to Filter On, Direct to value 0. That is very useful. |
Chasidy Heckenbach
22.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ_dB
Off the top of my head, I can't believe of a way to do that (unless your knob sends out a different note for the center value...never seen that before though.) Something you may want to try is recalibrating the controller, if possible. I know that on the X1, for example, you can recalibrate so that the center notch is actually center, etc.
my cheapo idj does that. every knob sends a noteon when it hits the center spot as well as the usual cc for every position - it's very useful. the pots are too close together to be a great mixer for usual use, but as a small all-on-one it can do just about everything, the midi spec has been very well thought out.
you could use something like bomes or midimasher ofc to pass thru all data but also send out the additional needed midi data when a pot hits that center spot. |
Samual Ogura
23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Hi,
I know I just saw some reference to this issue somewhere recently but I cant for the life of me find it. Hoping somebody can help..
I have a knob that I use for traktors internal filter. The problem is that when I put it to 12 o'clock, it sometimes stays on 2% or so (+ its hard to tell in traktor if its only slightly off center).
I was believeing that I could adjust the mapping so that the knob basically turns the little circled light (in traktor right next to the filter knob on the screen) off when I reach 0% and then turns it back on when I go +/- 1% or more.
Can anybody guide me in the right direction here?
Can I do this all via a single command for filter ON or do I need multiple commands?
Off the top of my head, I can't believe of a way to do that (unless your knob sends out a different note for the center value...never seen that before though.) Something you may want to try is recalibrating the controller, if possible. I know that on the X1, for example, you can recalibrate so that the center notch is actually center, etc. |
Cliff Lohman
22.11.2011 | Hi,
I know I just saw some reference to this issue somewhere recently but I cant for the life of me find it. Hoping somebody can help..
I have a knob that I use for traktors internal filter. The problem is that when I put it to 12 o'clock, it sometimes stays on 2% or so (+ its hard to tell in traktor if its only slightly off center).
I was believeing that I could adjust the mapping so that the knob basically turns the little circled light (in traktor right next to the filter knob on the screen) off when I reach 0% and then turns it back on when I go +/- 1% or more.
Can anybody guide me in the right direction here?
Can I do this all via a single command for filter ON or do I need multiple commands? |
Chasidy Heckenbach
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Got ya..thnx for explanation.. If u only have one pot for one function, it seems like its the way to go tho, ya? So in other words, the physical location of the knob will correspond to the software knob location always, right?
if u have one pot for one job then u dont need soft takeover. or if u enable it it won't have any effect - since they'll always be in sync anyway
The only issue i can believe of is that this knob controls filter in traktor and its a deck focus mapping.. U believe thatll cause any troubles? Nonetheless, ill give a try soon and report back.
not sure about deck focus stuff - i always explicitly specify what deck i want to control in the mapping |
Cliff Lohman
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
it's useful when using one pot to control different parameters. the software control won't start to move until u position the real pot at the same location as the software one. personally i hate it and so don't use one pot for more than one function - this is where encoders are better as they don't have a fixed start or end point.
Got ya..thnx for explanation.. If u only have one pot for one function, it seems like its the way to go tho, ya? So in other words, the physical location of the knob will correspond to the software knob location always, right?
The only issue i can believe of is that this knob controls filter in traktor and its a deck focus mapping.. U believe thatll cause any troubles? Nonetheless, ill give a try soon and report back. |
Chasidy Heckenbach
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
No idea what that does but ill give it a try!
thnx
it's useful when using one pot to control different parameters. the software control won't start to move until u position the real pot at the same location as the software one. personally i hate it and so don't use one pot for more than one function - this is where encoders are better as they don't have a fixed start or end point. |
Cliff Lohman
24.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by oakich
just turn on "soft takeover" for the knob, i believe that will solve your problems!
No idea what that does but ill give it a try!
thnx |
Chance Depenbrock
24.11.2011 | just turn on "soft takeover" for the knob, i believe that will solve your problems! |
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ_dB
Not needed. If it has a different note value for the center, map that value to Filter On, Direct to value 0. That is very useful.
i know the idj doesn't need extra middleware software, just saying that u could for a controller that doesn't send out the extra midi.
and yep, the idj has a rather cool midi spec. you'd believe they'd have skipped on that part and done the minimum for such a budget controller. |
Samual Ogura
22.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
my cheapo idj does that. every knob sends a noteon when it hits the center spot as well as the usual cc for every position - it's very useful. the pots are too close together to be a great mixer for usual use, but as a small all-on-one it can do just about everything, the midi spec has been very well thought out.
you could use something like bomes or midimasher ofc to pass thru all data but also send out the additional needed midi data when a pot hits that center spot.
Not needed. If it has a different note value for the center, map that value to Filter On, Direct to value 0. That is very useful. |
Chasidy Heckenbach
22.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJ_dB
Off the top of my head, I can't believe of a way to do that (unless your knob sends out a different note for the center value...never seen that before though.) Something you may want to try is recalibrating the controller, if possible. I know that on the X1, for example, you can recalibrate so that the center notch is actually center, etc.
my cheapo idj does that. every knob sends a noteon when it hits the center spot as well as the usual cc for every position - it's very useful. the pots are too close together to be a great mixer for usual use, but as a small all-on-one it can do just about everything, the midi spec has been very well thought out.
you could use something like bomes or midimasher ofc to pass thru all data but also send out the additional needed midi data when a pot hits that center spot. |
Samual Ogura
23.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Hi,
I know I just saw some reference to this issue somewhere recently but I cant for the life of me find it. Hoping somebody can help..
I have a knob that I use for traktors internal filter. The problem is that when I put it to 12 o'clock, it sometimes stays on 2% or so (+ its hard to tell in traktor if its only slightly off center).
I was believeing that I could adjust the mapping so that the knob basically turns the little circled light (in traktor right next to the filter knob on the screen) off when I reach 0% and then turns it back on when I go +/- 1% or more.
Can anybody guide me in the right direction here?
Can I do this all via a single command for filter ON or do I need multiple commands?
Off the top of my head, I can't believe of a way to do that (unless your knob sends out a different note for the center value...never seen that before though.) Something you may want to try is recalibrating the controller, if possible. I know that on the X1, for example, you can recalibrate so that the center notch is actually center, etc. |
