LED to change colour dependant on function.
LED to change colour dependant on function. Posted on: 18.08.2012 by Yevette Matatall Okay so I have just mapped for buttons that will each indicate red dependant on deck focus. How do I mange to get these buttons to be green whilst not in deck focus. To be clear, at any one time 3 buttons will be green and the focued button will be red.Whats the easiest way if I just want a button to be one particulr colour all the time without changing state when pressed. | |
| Yevette Matatall 24.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by iona
Iona: i believe ill end up with K2, F1, and possibly us machine oneday, I already have machine but i still havnt got into it yet... I wont move away from CDjs either, just as I was kinda moving over, they announce advanced hid intergration... im happy. Trakor, cdj's full midi sync.. |
| Julian Ispas 23.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by narrah
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| Yevette Matatall 22.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by iona
again, thanks for the help, ill give it a try when i can see what you did with the TSI and get back to you. do you usually play internally mixing or do you make use of club mixer. I see your tsi is for internal mixing. |
| Arturo Harbuck 22.08.2012 | i believe this is what you're looking for. edit for explanation: its dedicated to deck a. the button i used is the first on the matrix ("A"), and the "exit setup" button. there are some modifiers you don't need... to lazy to clear it all. to enhance it you can make the cue button blinking with an inverted beatphase out. 4_narrah.tsi |
| Arturo Harbuck 22.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by narrah
1. the "focus selector" button which i have for every deck 2. the play button for each deck 3. or the loop button for each deck so if i understand you correctly you have a shift button for each deck to enable their secondary functions. lets call it shift A, B and C. shift A is modifier Mx=1, type button, hold (x stands for the modifier-number you use - since i don't know...) shift B is modifier Mx=2, type button, hold shift C is modifier Mx=3, type button, hold Mx=0 is the normal condition which every command use which is no shift function! Then u need the "Select/Store Hotcue" for each hotcue button (1-4) and each deck+condition (ABC+Mx): 1. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 1 2. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 2 3. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 3 4. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 4 1. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=2, Assignment Deck B, Set Value to Hotcue 1 ... and so on (12 commands without mapping LED - just the IN). Better way in my opinion: the shift also changes the focus of the deck ("deck focus selector"). then you just have to map 4 commands: 1. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 1 2. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 2 3. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 3 4. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 4 |
| Arturo Harbuck 21.08.2012 | I will show you what i did, i believe there are some ideas fitting to yours. The attached image isn't up to date... the layer buttons (hotcue 1,5,4,8) had changed to 5,6,7,8. Other changes are not affecting the functions shown in the video. with the green shift button i also can enable the prelistening - in this case the active channel would be lit green on the focus button... forgot to show this in the video... k2 for the sheeple by iota.jpg if you have questions, ask! |
| Kellie Myrum 20.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by iona
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| Arturo Harbuck 25.08.2012 | I'am not that into internal mixer thing - i believe the sound is not very good. So at the moment I'm not shure if its better to get the Xone 42 or 62, because with the 62 i would be able to add a maschine or what ever. On the other hand i like the EQ's and the VU's at the 42 more. I never used CDJ's - had the idea to use TT's, because they are on every Afterhour - but i believe i don't do that atm. For me the K2 is the most usable controller available. I'm a fan of modular setups - and this thing is so customizable that it fits every need i have. Perhaps a second one will come some day... |
| Yevette Matatall 24.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by iona
Iona: i believe ill end up with K2, F1, and possibly us machine oneday, I already have machine but i still havnt got into it yet... I wont move away from CDjs either, just as I was kinda moving over, they announce advanced hid intergration... im happy. Trakor, cdj's full midi sync.. |
| Arturo Harbuck 23.08.2012 | @ narrah: glad i could help you. at the moment i only have the internal mixer until i have enough money for a xone 42 or 62 - mixed before with an external battlemixer... but two decks make me feel limited - so i prefer the internal at the moment. the idea of buying the k2 was to have full 4 deck control (i believe i nearly realized that) to have an "ultraportable" setup. When i get the new mixer, i will make a new mapping - based on the existing, but with better fx access, loop recorder, perhaps remix decks (if possible) and some more features. @ kensic: its about the xone k2 |
| Julian Ispas 23.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by narrah
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| Yevette Matatall 22.08.2012 | Thanks Iona for the TSI..... I worked it out,,,,the missing link was the "add in" "send modifier state"...... im nearly done now , ill send you the finished TSI when its done. |
| Yevette Matatall 22.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by iona
again, thanks for the help, ill give it a try when i can see what you did with the TSI and get back to you. do you usually play internally mixing or do you make use of club mixer. I see your tsi is for internal mixing. |
| Arturo Harbuck 22.08.2012 | i believe this is what you're looking for. edit for explanation: its dedicated to deck a. the button i used is the first on the matrix ("A"), and the "exit setup" button. there are some modifiers you don't need... to lazy to clear it all. to enhance it you can make the cue button blinking with an inverted beatphase out. 4_narrah.tsi |
| Arturo Harbuck 22.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by narrah
1. the "focus selector" button which i have for every deck 2. the play button for each deck 3. or the loop button for each deck so if i understand you correctly you have a shift button for each deck to enable their secondary functions. lets call it shift A, B and C. shift A is modifier Mx=1, type button, hold (x stands for the modifier-number you use - since i don't know...) shift B is modifier Mx=2, type button, hold shift C is modifier Mx=3, type button, hold Mx=0 is the normal condition which every command use which is no shift function! Then u need the "Select/Store Hotcue" for each hotcue button (1-4) and each deck+condition (ABC+Mx): 1. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 1 2. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 2 3. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 3 4. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment Deck A, Set Value to Hotcue 4 1. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=2, Assignment Deck B, Set Value to Hotcue 1 ... and so on (12 commands without mapping LED - just the IN). Better way in my opinion: the shift also changes the focus of the deck ("deck focus selector"). then you just have to map 4 commands: 1. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 1 2. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 2 3. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 3 4. Button: Select/Store Hotcue, condition Mx=1, Assignment "Device Target", Set Value to Hotcue 4 |
| Arturo Harbuck 22.08.2012 | i try to give you an answer in the next hours - have to grab food first. and you're right not using the predefined layers from the controller - that's totally shit for complex mapping in traktor. what i meant by layers - i mapped them custom by using modifiers. in my first steps of mapping the k2 i did use them - but it was effin annoying to get rid of them... |
| Yevette Matatall 23.08.2012 | Ioana, Okay i see what you did and thats what I need to get happening as far as LEDS changing state when shift modiifer is held to represnt the functions mapped to said modifier. Ive tried a few things but cant get it to happen. So, say I have a cue button that with a modiifer is also my sync button. my cue botton I have always on in normal state but I need it to dissapear when holding down the shift modifier and it to either be on or off to represent sync state... again when I release hold from modifier LED returns to represent cue bottun. Im not using layers, this would be easier if doing so but then I would loose multicolour function on my first layer. |
| Cole Pantzer 22.08.2012 | LED is an environment friendly and meaningful way to get background colors. The most important quality is that one can get it changed intermittently as per its requirement. |
| Arturo Harbuck 21.08.2012 | I will show you what i did, i believe there are some ideas fitting to yours. The attached image isn't up to date... the layer buttons (hotcue 1,5,4,8) had changed to 5,6,7,8. Other changes are not affecting the functions shown in the video. with the green shift button i also can enable the prelistening - in this case the active channel would be lit green on the focus button... forgot to show this in the video... k2 for the sheeple by iota.jpg if you have questions, ask! |
| Yevette Matatall 20.08.2012 | I moved on from the deck focus toggle proplem and have moved onto new problem. I thought this one would be easy enough aswell but turns out its not. I have my sixteen button matrix at bottom of k2, I have a shift function for sync, key lock, drop cue, delete cue. Is it possible to map LEDS so that when I press shift function the leds on matrix change status to represent status of above mentioned functions with that modifier. Also, this should be easier, I still havnt mapped hotcues as I could find how to dedicate a botton to a particular hotcue on a particular deck. for example, on the top row of the matrix, I want the hotcues 1-4 availiable for deck A when holding second shift key. I just cant see where I have the option to map this.. silly I know, but ive sat on it a week because I figured im overlooking something simple, im sure its still simple but it hasnt come to me yet. ???? |
| Yevette Matatall 20.08.2012 | thanks guys for the brainstorming, im going to keep playing and try to implement my interpretation of what you guys are talking about. Is it just me or is the Traktor add "out" LED mapping functions really difficult to navigate and implement. 2 weeks ago I had never mapped anything and after a maybe 10 good hours mapping all the out functions I had managed to custom map my k2. My point being that I quickly made sense of how modifiers work and could work out most functions as there was a certain level of logic involved. Adding out led functions seems to be all smoke and mirrors and crazy work arounds for what I would have assumed to be run of the mill LED actions for controller. why wouldnt this be a priority with NI, is it possible they purposly make full LED intergration difficult therefor giving thier controllers added appeal? |
| Kellie Myrum 20.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by iona
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| Arturo Harbuck 20.08.2012 | and if you do that as i mentioned above and ad an additional "send monitor state" to the cue buttons (perhaps on release)? |
| Kellie Myrum 20.08.2012 | Since there are three "next cue" buttons for each decks (A,B,D) deck focus select need to be mapped to this same buttons and to corresponding deck ofc. |
| Arturo Harbuck 20.08.2012 | but when does the focus switch? AFAIK you have to interact in any way to switch it. so this interaction (for example pressing the play button as in my script) would be the trigger for color change. but perhaps i didn't understand the problem. |
| Kellie Myrum 20.08.2012 | That was my thought as well, just instead of deck focus output I would use modifier output because there is no /in focus A,B.../ as modifier condition and with values 1,2,3 set to exact outputs traktor can tell when and which color needs to lite up. |
| Arturo Harbuck 20.08.2012 | Just a quick idea: 1: out "deck focus selector"; controller range 0-3 (depending which deck); assign to green note; invert(!) --> will be on all the time 2: out "deck focus selector"; controller range 0-3 (depending which deck); assign to red note; no invert --> will be on when in focus |
| Kellie Myrum 20.08.2012 | Yep, that can be alternative but your idea seem more cool. I'm sure there is few way to make it working. It's just matter if I have K2 it would be much easier for me to troubleshoot it... Sorry if I wasn't any of help. |
| Yevette Matatall 19.08.2012 | Thought, would it be easier just to have respective green led flash if in focus? |
| Yevette Matatall 19.08.2012 | so here is 4 bank mode example given Add in modifier #1 (since ive used mod 1,2 & 3 already, i assume i make this mod 4) Type of controller - Button (Is this the actual button, do i assign note red(focus) or next cue (green) Interaction mode - Direct Set to value - 1 Add out modifier #1 (to add out this moddo i assign note red(focus) or next cue (green)[/ Controller range - 1 to 1 My apoligies if you cant make sense of what im trying to express, just when I thought I was getting the hang of midi mapping, adding out led functions is really difficult. |
| Yevette Matatall 19.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
Im only using 3 decks, A,B & D.... my idea was to have my three top buttons on matrix of k2 (3 buttons below faders) indicate deck focus. These buttons I use for going fwd through cue points. I wanted them illuminted green all the time except for when that deck is in focus, once deck focus moves to other deck the led returns to green status. First what I have done to get the LED always green was to add out -Next/prev/cue/loop -Respective midi note for green on k2 (c#8) - k2 dosnt use midi range to change clr but rather has three different notes for green, red and amber. -controller range was already set to min: -1 max: 1 -I checked invert and blend, this way the led always remained on. I then did the deck focus mapping and set LEDS to red, problem is that once deck focus red led state is given the respective button doesnt return to green once focus has moved on. im going to try again to make sense of your four bank idea, see if icant put it together. |
| Kellie Myrum 19.08.2012 | Set four bank mode over your deck focus and map modifier output for each value to lite in those colors. I never really tested it but in theory it should work. How to set 4 banks: http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=55271 M1=1 > Deck A M1=2 > Deck B M1=3 > Deck C M1=4 > Deck D Now, when deck A is selected modifier value goes 1, so if you want that button to lite in red just adjust midi range and give it modifier conditions of M1=1 and also set the same modifier conditions to other three buttons just this time change range to give you green LED's. Repeat this step to rest of the buttons. If everything's cool remember to delete deck focus output commands because modifier is doing job instead. Hope it help. |
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