Jog wheel effects
Jog wheel effects Posted on: 09.09.2011 by Kristofer Krauel With regards to the S2 behind the scenes vid on the main blog.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvUw...layer_embedded Anyone know if the effects mapping is available for the S4? I really want my jogs to be as cool as that!!! | |
| Kayhan Polat 14.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
Just got home and will check out the TSI and your mix! |
| Rey Holubar 15.10.2011 | Hey everyone. I've changed the TSI quite a bit (for the better) and it is in my other thread ready for download. I believe it is a close to Ean's as I can get. But, since Ean made it specially for his video, there is still room to improve it for "regular" use. Here is the link to my thread with the TSI. http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d.php?p=363058 scamo |
| Christal Jonason 14.10.2011 | Nice =) i'll try it soon |
| Kayhan Polat 14.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by scamo
Just got home and will check out the TSI and your mix! |
| Rey Holubar 14.10.2011 | I've gone ahead and made a new thread just for the TSI discussion. http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d.php?p=363058 If you have any comments or suggestions about it, please go there. scamo |
| Rey Holubar 13.10.2011 | Yeah, I played with it for about an hour and while I was making the mapping. I like the effects. They are fun. More fun than pressing buttons on the Maschine. The effects are best played in rhythmic sections within the music. You can get sort of musical with the jogs then, as Ean explained. scamo |
| Kristofer Krauel 13.10.2011 | Nice one Scamo. I'll take a look at this over the weekend. You had much of a play with it yourself? How is it? |
| Rey Holubar 13.10.2011 | Yep, sure am. Did you write something up? If so, sorry I missed it. BTW, your itchy dick mix actually was sort of an inspiration for my first mix. scamo |
| Kayhan Polat 13.10.2011 | nice scamo! will try when i get home. btw are you the same scamo that left a comment on my blog about how i go about making a mix? like preparation of playlist, loops, and samples? |
| Rey Holubar 13.10.2011 | Ok. I've given this a try and I believe my result isn't too bad. I believe I've watched Ean's video about a gazillion times to try and get the setting right. It is my first attempt to add a user mapping to the S4. Hope you like it. Edit/ I use decks A and B as regular decks and decks C and D as sample decks. To get to the jog wheel effects for Deck A, just press the Deck C button. The same goes for Deck B. Just press the Deck D button. Ah, and I did do a bit of changing for my personal liking, so it isn't 100% the same as Ean's mapping. scamo Edit/ if you want this TSI, go to this thread. http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...d.php?p=363058 |
| Rey Holubar 11.10.2011 | OMG! I just saw this banner. C'mon DJTT. Do I have to buy the S2 to get the TSI? Nooooo!!!! scamo |
| Karl Forde 09.10.2011 | Come on Ean - Get your mapping out :-) |
| Luke Imtiaz 07.10.2011 |
Originally Posted by DaBeef
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| Kayhan Polat 06.10.2011 | mapping avail yet? |
| Rey Holubar 13.09.2011 | From Ean's "The making of the S2 video" blog, I would assume that. scamo |
| Kristofer Krauel 14.09.2011 | ok so I've not got my S4 back yet so i can't have a play at this. From what I've read in this thread though recreating this isn't as simple as activating jog wheel fx mode and messing with the native mapping.... is that right? But we feel this may be something we can do in a future TPro update? |
| Christal Jonason 13.09.2011 | news ? |
| Oswaldo Appeldorn 12.09.2011 | hey da beef.. tx but can you share your mapping?? |
| Oralia Bleyl 12.09.2011 | OK had another play and this is where i am up to: I have the Load Button selected in S4 Pref menu to jog mode / fx this means when i press the load button once, it goes into fx mode. What this means is that turning the jogwheel will only affect the fxs that i have mapped and will have no affect on the track or pitch. If i press load again i have scratch control and pitch bend again BUT my mapping is still affected so the fxs still change. My current work around is to use the dry wet to kill the fx when i need pitch bend. Other issues are that the jogwheels will affect the fxs even in browser mode. My plan to get round this is to only map one of my jogs for fx and use the other one to scroll through tracks. To scamo - i use the cue buttons to load my tracks so don't need the load buttons for anything. This was just a basic mapping made in 5 mins but with modifiers i am sure it can resolve the above issues. |
| Kecia Wnukowski 12.09.2011 |
PS: love your sigs
I'm disappointed, I wish you were going to tell me you knew things I didn't know yet concerning the options. But yes you're right, one can do a user a user mapping and implement any funky tricks with jogwheel, it's currently doable without any fuss. |
| Oralia Bleyl 12.09.2011 | Hey Scamo, Sorry but my previous post is incorrect made the mapping last evening and things aren't quite working as i stated. Just having a play now will update, |
| Rey Holubar 12.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by DaBeef
scamo |
| Oralia Bleyl 12.09.2011 | Mapped these jogwheel fx to my S4 last evening
in HID mode (not midi mode) loads of fun !!!! In S4 preferences select jogwheels to control fx when load button is pressed. Next created a new user mapping and mapped a few commands to the jogwheel:- Press jogwheel to turn on all three fx in group mode. The bit that got me stumped for a while was trying to map fx amounts when turning jogwheel. Control manager didn't want to learn the jogwheel when rotating. After a while i found that in one of the pull down menus in the manager you could select "direct speed" under one of the jogwheel sub menus. Then as explained in the vid using various relative settings you can create some cool effects. Pressing the load button takes you back to scratch control on the jogwheels.... Have fun... |
| Fleta Reddell 11.09.2011 | I kinda already made first version of the configuration myself, needs bit tweaking tho. One thing I'm particularly interested is if it's possible to change an effect on let's say slot 1 of fx unit 1 when left jog wheel has been rotated (while pushed) x amount clockwise for example start with beatmasher on slot 1 then shortly after rotating change it to beatslicer+activate it and so forth, can put it to say, some assignable button separately tho. but I say what Ean is showing on the vid, is doable on S4 too |
| Nedra Fresneda 11.09.2011 | Nah I meant regularly mapping. PS: love your sigs |
| Kecia Wnukowski 11.09.2011 | Once again, there's no issue to do that in midi mode. Not a big deal.
Like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure it can be replicated with the current version.
What was the thing about syncing one-shots? Anyone have any idea how that's done?
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| Johnson Tomon 11.09.2011 | [QUOTE]Like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure it can be replicated with the current version./QUOTE] me too.... i am pretty close in midi mode |
| Nedra Fresneda 11.09.2011 | It has been announced already that the any new customization options introduced with the S2, will be available for the S4. Like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure it can be replicated with the current version. |
| Janina Droze 11.09.2011 | As it stands currently, it is not possible to do what Ean does on the S2 or S4 ( bearing in mind that the S2 isn't GA yet) ? If true, that's fairly lame. I would believe that would be a fairly major selling point for both units, especially so for the S4 since it is the bigger brother of the units. Perhaps I am misunderstanding though. |
| Donovan Mandy 11.09.2011 | What was the thing about syncing one-shots? Anyone have any idea how that's done? |
| Kecia Wnukowski 11.09.2011 | Of course it can be done in midi mode, it can even be done in hid mode with a user mapping. That's not a mystery. |
| Johnson Tomon 12.09.2011 | pretty sure you can do this in midi mode....im kinda close....but not really.....but i am sure it can be done....i mean i see beatmasher and peakfilter and reverb.....i can get all of that going on....but when it goes back and the sample cuts out to nothing...it is like it is maped to the volume or totally cuts the deck off or somthing....not just the beat masher....also all i can get is a toggle on and off with all of the fx on the platter top....seems like it reacts more to touch for eans set up....need to dig deeper..... |
| Kristofer Krauel 09.09.2011 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
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| Kecia Wnukowski 09.09.2011 | Talking about the S4, I'm 95% sure you cant' come currently with a system that would be 1/ consistent (whatever the decks layout) and 2/ that would work 100% of the time . Not feasible. because 1/ there's no consistency on the load button that engages the fx mode for the jogwheel, depending on the type of deck you're using (that's just dumb NI). 2/ there are too many layers and events that can affect the jogwheel and you cant' reproduce those with a user mapping. Not possible with the controller manager. Of course I'm talking here of a user mapping working in conjunction with the native one. On the other hand it's quite easy to implement with a full user mapping just to do that but that would be 'meh' to loose all the functions and led feedback from the embedded mapping. I'm going to repost it here just in case some didn't see it, sorry for the others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2j3g5Bxiw So I worked upon an half solution but that can work only for a defined layout and that prevents you to use the copy mode, which is a pain in the a.. |
| Nedra Fresneda 09.09.2011 | Yul. you will have some porting work to do then
Originally Posted by kooper1980
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| Kristofer Krauel 09.09.2011 | damn i hope it comes out for the s4 as well. I love what is going on with the jogs in that vid!! fingers crossed!! |
| Kecia Wnukowski 09.09.2011 |
My guess is that the customization improvements might be allowing buttons to be set on knobs NHL mappings, like midi does. This kind of limitations in the current version is pretty annoying since you have to choose between resolution and advanced customization via MIDI
Gimme gimme gimme!!!! |
| Nedra Fresneda 09.09.2011 | Should be here once it's up http://www.djranking
s.com/midi-map/ Maybe he was just making the video future proof. It wouldn't make much sense to release a map for a controller that isn't even out yet. |
| Kristofer Krauel 09.09.2011 | But Ean says the mapping for the S2 is available on this website? |
| Nedra Fresneda 09.09.2011 | Rainer has dropped a bit of critical info here: http://www.traktorbible.com/video/ne...ontrol-s4.aspx He mentions that the S2 default mapping is closed like the S4 is today, so that means pretty much that those hoping to edit any of these controllers maps won't be getting it in the next update. My guess is that the customization improvements might be allowing buttons to be set on knobs NHL mappings, like midi does. This kind of limitations in the current version is pretty annoying since you have to choose between resolution and advanced customization via MIDI (but makes sense for people who have no clue about mapping or just want to map simpler stuff). Give us an advanced mode with resizable window already! |
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