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"Super Turbo VCI- DJ Tech Tools Edition"
Posted on: 07.04.2008 by JUNIOR JUNIMM
This is all just pure concept, but if DJ Tech Tools were granted permission by vestax to help design a custom VCI that was voted upon by the tech tools communit by us for us what features would you people want? to added or changed to the design? How would it look? What would it feature? How would it stand out over other designs on the market?

[Current list of ideas floating around]

Optional glow in the dark or black light sensitive paint
Optional no mixer design
Optional sound card
Optional Bigger jog wheels
Optional Longer pitch faders
Optional attachable rack mount ears
Optional direct drive motor
Joystick w/deck toggle A, B, or Simultaneous or X/Y pad w/deck toggle A, B, or Simultaneous
Non slip coating on jog wheels/Authentic vinyl feeling
More buttons/pads
Buttons/velocity sensitive pads
Lights
Four deck control (physically) - four of each transport control
Custom overlays
Balanced non-awkward layout.
USB port

and of course the mandatory 3 kitchen sinks w/4 kitchen sinks optional
JUNIOR JUNIMM
10.04.2008
Originally Posted by kidfromkibbly
How big would these controllers be though if we had everything we wanted?!
HUGE!! It really depends on the compromises that were made for practicality if we were to try and keep it close to as compact as the standard vci-100/300 designs.
Elia Ajram
09.04.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
One touch sensitive USABLE button in the effects section per knob and none none of this splitting it up into A B and master channel crap, at least 8 knobs, 8 buttons, 4 cross faders and two nice long firm faders (like the vci volume faders) per deck just for the effects section alone.

1 xy pad and 1 joystick per deck.

A bigarse drum trigger section - at least 14 nice sized touch sensitive pads (that allow high tempo triplets while not killing the wrist).
* A balanced layout (notice, for example, the sync button are slightly offset from key/loop. Much more like the VCI-300 layout.

* A usb hub (seriously, us mac users only have 2 usb ports).

sgb
JUNIOR JUNIMM
08.04.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
One touch sensitive USABLE button in the effects section per knob and none none of this splitting it up into A B and master channel crap, at least 8 knobs, 8 buttons, 4 cross faders and two nice long firm faders (like the vci volume faders) per deck just for the effects section alone.

1 xy pad and 1 joystick per deck.

A bigarse drum trigger section - at least 14 nice sized touch sensitive pads (that allow high tempo triplets while not killing the wrist).

3 or 4 Jogs.

Improved open ended midi with like 1000+ intervals not 0-127.

3 octave piano, for those of us who wanna mosh out a synth while the tune is going, for knob/crossfader purposes the piano is considered a deck.

Ill choose my own audio card thanks.

Rows of super bright LED's on the sides of the unit under a metal housing that shines plenty of light onto the deck.

minimum of 3x4 rows of high performance arcade buttons below the jogs.

Big, heavy and strong enough to beat up a vinyl loving, electronic dj hater with, while still living on to mix another day.

Arcade buttons surrounding both of the decks to control loop sizes

and 3... no wait... 4 kitchen sinks.
4 kitchen sinks is a must have feature wish I'd thought of that one

I like the X/Y pad idea, but I can't really see the point of a joystick being necessary if you got a x/y pad anyway. Integrating a few good things from a MPD, Kaos Pad, and VCI would probably be a nice starting point design to work from. One thing to keep in mind is to try to keep the design user space friendly as much as possible at least.

A lot of different ideas might have start making a list of the different ideas then once a bunch are established run a few polls. I wasn't expecting so many quick responses.
Karolis Petrauskas
08.04.2008
Originally Posted by DIGITAL-KNIGHT
GOOD THREAD!

A little peice of software with template that allowed you to print custom Overlays - so you know what that button is supposed to do!
Not trying to Hijack but can't we pool together to make one of these ourselves? I know I would love a template for this. It could be a word, illustrator file or whatever.
JUNIOR JUNIMM
07.04.2008		This is all just pure concept, but if DJ Tech Tools were granted permission by vestax to help design a custom VCI that was voted upon by the tech tools communit by us for us what features would you people want? to added or changed to the design? How would it look? What would it feature? How would it stand out over other designs on the market?

[Current list of ideas floating around]

Optional glow in the dark or black light sensitive paint
Optional no mixer design
Optional sound card
Optional Bigger jog wheels
Optional Longer pitch faders
Optional attachable rack mount ears
Optional direct drive motor
Joystick w/deck toggle A, B, or Simultaneous or X/Y pad w/deck toggle A, B, or Simultaneous
Non slip coating on jog wheels/Authentic vinyl feeling
More buttons/pads
Buttons/velocity sensitive pads
Lights
Four deck control (physically) - four of each transport control
Custom overlays
Balanced non-awkward layout.
USB port

and of course the mandatory 3 kitchen sinks w/4 kitchen sinks optional
JUNIOR JUNIMM
10.04.2008
Originally Posted by kidfromkibbly
How big would these controllers be though if we had everything we wanted?!
HUGE!! It really depends on the compromises that were made for practicality if we were to try and keep it close to as compact as the standard vci-100/300 designs.
Elia Ajram
09.04.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
One touch sensitive USABLE button in the effects section per knob and none none of this splitting it up into A B and master channel crap, at least 8 knobs, 8 buttons, 4 cross faders and two nice long firm faders (like the vci volume faders) per deck just for the effects section alone.

1 xy pad and 1 joystick per deck.

A bigarse drum trigger section - at least 14 nice sized touch sensitive pads (that allow high tempo triplets while not killing the wrist).
* A balanced layout (notice, for example, the sync button are slightly offset from key/loop. Much more like the VCI-300 layout.

* A usb hub (seriously, us mac users only have 2 usb ports).

sgb
Xavier Emanuels
09.04.2008		Joysticks naturally return to their center point which makes them particularly handy for pitchbending effects, way better than a jog wheel or a tempo fader. So sayings its to be used in conjunction with the jogs and temp fader, its not a replacement. Different devices pull off different effects better than others, so i like having a slew of different interface devices and choose the best effects to suit the device.
Dj Gjaka
09.04.2008		How big would these controllers be though if we had everything we wanted?!
JUNIOR JUNIMM
08.04.2008
Originally Posted by BentoSan
One touch sensitive USABLE button in the effects section per knob and none none of this splitting it up into A B and master channel crap, at least 8 knobs, 8 buttons, 4 cross faders and two nice long firm faders (like the vci volume faders) per deck just for the effects section alone.

1 xy pad and 1 joystick per deck.

A bigarse drum trigger section - at least 14 nice sized touch sensitive pads (that allow high tempo triplets while not killing the wrist).

3 or 4 Jogs.

Improved open ended midi with like 1000+ intervals not 0-127.

3 octave piano, for those of us who wanna mosh out a synth while the tune is going, for knob/crossfader purposes the piano is considered a deck.

Ill choose my own audio card thanks.

Rows of super bright LED's on the sides of the unit under a metal housing that shines plenty of light onto the deck.

minimum of 3x4 rows of high performance arcade buttons below the jogs.

Big, heavy and strong enough to beat up a vinyl loving, electronic dj hater with, while still living on to mix another day.

Arcade buttons surrounding both of the decks to control loop sizes

and 3... no wait... 4 kitchen sinks.
4 kitchen sinks is a must have feature wish I'd thought of that one

I like the X/Y pad idea, but I can't really see the point of a joystick being necessary if you got a x/y pad anyway. Integrating a few good things from a MPD, Kaos Pad, and VCI would probably be a nice starting point design to work from. One thing to keep in mind is to try to keep the design user space friendly as much as possible at least.

A lot of different ideas might have start making a list of the different ideas then once a bunch are established run a few polls. I wasn't expecting so many quick responses.
Xavier Emanuels
08.04.2008		One touch sensitive USABLE button in the effects section per knob and none none of this splitting it up into A B and master channel crap, at least 8 knobs, 8 buttons, 4 cross faders and two nice long firm faders (like the vci volume faders) per deck just for the effects section alone.

1 xy pad and 1 joystick per deck.

A bigarse drum trigger section - at least 14 nice sized touch sensitive pads (that allow high tempo triplets while not killing the wrist).

3 or 4 Jogs.

Improved open ended midi with like 1000+ intervals not 0-127.

3 octave piano, for those of us who wanna mosh out a synth while the tune is going, for knob/crossfader purposes the piano is considered a deck.

Ill choose my own audio card thanks.

Rows of super bright LED's on the sides of the unit under a metal housing that shines plenty of light onto the deck.

minimum of 3x4 rows of high performance arcade buttons below the jogs.

Big, heavy and strong enough to beat up a vinyl loving, electronic dj hater with, while still living on to mix another day.

Arcade buttons surrounding both of the decks to control loop sizes

and 3... no wait... 4 kitchen sinks.
Karolis Petrauskas
08.04.2008
Originally Posted by DIGITAL-KNIGHT
GOOD THREAD!

A little peice of software with template that allowed you to print custom Overlays - so you know what that button is supposed to do!
Not trying to Hijack but can't we pool together to make one of these ourselves? I know I would love a template for this. It could be a word, illustrator file or whatever.
Brandon Davenport
08.04.2008		GOOD THREAD!

For my dream VCI I would like the following:

Four deck control (physically) - ie four lots of each of the transport controls

NO MIXER CONTROLS - I always use an external mixer.

Better Buttons / LEDs - something with a better shape, feel and response.

Longer Pitch Faders - that had little buttons next to them to change the pitch range

A little peice of software with template that allowed you to print custom Overlays - so you know what that button is supposed to do!

A non slip coating on the jog wheels - so that your finger sticks to it.

More buttons to assign to controls - so I can have a bank of things I want.

Optional rack mount ears - so I can put my Dream VCI in a nice case!

PLEASE CAN I HAVE ONE?
Adil Laresh
08.04.2008		oh and much longer pitch faders...
Miloje Savic
07.04.2008		Sound Card
Lights
Bigger Jog Wheels

Vci-300
DiscJoker aka GP
07.04.2008		yea i would like to actually have buttons like ean or something similar.

bigger job wheels and aslo a built in soundcard that is really decent.

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