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Routing a soundcard with 2 X stereo outs into Traktor pro
Posted on: 23.10.2010 by Mauricio Burgman
Hi There,

I have Traktor pro for mac, and a phonic firefly 202 firewire soundcard. My problem is that the outputs, with are each 1/4 inch stereo TRS, are reckoginized by traktor as 1 channel, so it displays 2 stereo outputs as only 2 mono outputs (as opposed to 4x mono if the outs were RCA), allowing me only to map 1 channel from each deck.. Is there a way to change this in my system, or to configure traktor to accept a single stereo out?

Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by pidluz
I need my usb's for dual otus controllers!
Don't do it!
Graham Frazier
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
AH it's balanced! It all makes sense now.
Yup yup. It's showing up as 2 mono channels, because that's what it is.
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
Nope, stereo

From NI
Then how do you route that one? That sounds like the same as what i have?
Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by pidluz
Yeah, maybe, it was on ebay.. The cash isn't really the issue, I was just hoping for firewire. I'll probably end up going with the audio 2, and now i just have a really nice interface for recording i guess.. The audio 2 has outputs like the one I have now, i'm assuming they are reckognized as 2 sets of 2 mono outs?
yes.
Leeanna Ayla
23.10.2010
Nope, stereo

From NI
Even though it's the smallest DJ USB soundcard in the world, its two stereo outputs plus the ultra-loud output level and professional sound quality have enough punch to rock the world
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
Hi There,

I have Traktor pro for mac, and a phonic firefly 202 firewire soundcard. My problem is that the outputs, with are each 1/4 inch stereo TRS, are reckoginized by traktor as 1 channel, so it displays 2 stereo outputs as only 2 mono outputs (as opposed to 4x mono if the outs were RCA), allowing me only to map 1 channel from each deck.. Is there a way to change this in my system, or to configure traktor to accept a single stereo out?

Graham Frazier
23.10.2010
Here are some firewire audio interfaces with enough outputs....
http://www.zzounds.com/item--FOCSAFPRO24



http://www.zzounds.com/item--ECHAUDIOFIRE4



... and here's a link to the Tweakheadz Firewire comparison chart
http://www.tweakheadz.com/audio_inte...ison_chart.htm
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
I'm glad i came here first! Any suggestions for something firewire that's in the same range? (btw fullenglish, I got both OTUS's for 600, i wouldn't pay full price!)
Graham Frazier
23.10.2010
The apogee duet, has 2 mono unbalanced outputs. So you still wouldn't have 2 channels of stereo outs.
Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by pidluz
I need my usb's for dual otus controllers!
Don't do it!
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
Thanks for the help! I'll probably just go apogee duet, like originally planned, I need my usb's for dual otus controllers!
Graham Frazier
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
AH it's balanced! It all makes sense now.
Yup yup. It's showing up as 2 mono channels, because that's what it is.
Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
AH it's balanced! It all makes sense now.
Graham Frazier
23.10.2010
The Phonic Firefly 202 doesn't have 2 stereo outputs. It has 2 TRS balanced outputs, which are each mono.
The problem here is that TRS is used in the industry for both stereo unbalanced, and mono balanced signals. The Audio 2 uses stereo unbalanced TRS, and the Firefly uses mono balanced.

A balanced signal is sent over 3 connections, in this case the TRS(tip, ring, sleeve) and in most cases a XLR. This will always be a mono signal.
An unbalanced signal is sent over 2 connections; like an RCA, or a TS cable. And can be sent as a stereo signal over a TRS becasue each channel shares a common ground, the sleeve.

I hope this clears things up for you.
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
Nope, stereo

From NI
Then how do you route that one? That sounds like the same as what i have?
Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
Originally Posted by pidluz
Yeah, maybe, it was on ebay.. The cash isn't really the issue, I was just hoping for firewire. I'll probably end up going with the audio 2, and now i just have a really nice interface for recording i guess.. The audio 2 has outputs like the one I have now, i'm assuming they are reckognized as 2 sets of 2 mono outs?
yes.
Leeanna Ayla
23.10.2010
Nope, stereo

From NI
Even though it's the smallest DJ USB soundcard in the world, its two stereo outputs plus the ultra-loud output level and professional sound quality have enough punch to rock the world
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
Yeah, maybe, it was on ebay.. The cash isn't really the issue, I was just hoping for firewire. I'll probably end up going with the audio 2, and now i just have a really nice interface for recording i guess.. The audio 2 has outputs like the one I have now, i'm assuming they are reckognized as 2 sets of 2 mono outs?
Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
if you'd paid the little bit extra you could have got an Audio 2

any chance of a refund?
Mauricio Burgman
23.10.2010
Plugged and played. I should have known that getting a 2x2 firewire card for $70 was too good to be true!
Tatum Ansaldo
23.10.2010
Sounds like it could be a driver issue, had a quick look at the phonic website driver page and they don't list a mac driver so I assume it plugged and played or came with a CD?

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