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APC44 fake design
Posted on: 27.10.2010 by Neil Tominaga
Hi

I just finish a fake design of APC40 evolution.
you can see a short video here :
[ame]http://vimeo.com/16216124[/ame]

don't hesitate to give me your feedback
thanks
Sebastien.












Neil Tominaga
28.10.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
still don't know about the whole "a b c d" thing. it's traktorizing. personally I've always felt like even 8 channels are not enough (hence my apc80), I can't imagine playing a liveset with only 4 tracks - and constantly skipping left to right is not very ergonomical. for dj applications, yes, maybe. but it's not like you can't do any of this very well with an apc40 already.

but kudos for the effort.
I understand, personally i try to work with less channels and more work on sound modulation and instrument, that why i try this design, for the "left to right" navigation i hate that too, that why just up to the cross nav i put some button for presets positions, so you can switch your position to 4 drum channel to 4 other channel with loop and 4 channel for return fx 4 masters channel ...this kind of thing.
But you're right it look like a """traktorizing""" approach but with instrument , sequencer, personal FX ...
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by djsakebomb
I use it in Ableton as a wet/dry with dummy clips :P
I'm sure people do use it lol, just not everyone. And this guy hasn't exactly left you with a shortage of encoders lol!
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by djsakebomb
There's no crossfader...?
To be fair a lot of people never even use the crossfader, particularly in Ableton.
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by srinterface
yes yes it's just a concept design

i made this alternative for more comfortable use of the grid section

That's a hell of a lot of encoders... like what you've done with the 4x4 grid at the bottom though.
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Er, I'm confused - how do you plan to build this?
I believe it's more of a concept idea... if someone did build this as a DIY mod they would be a whole new kind of brilliant.
Neil Tominaga
28.10.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
still don't know about the whole "a b c d" thing. it's traktorizing. personally I've always felt like even 8 channels are not enough (hence my apc80), I can't imagine playing a liveset with only 4 tracks - and constantly skipping left to right is not very ergonomical. for dj applications, yes, maybe. but it's not like you can't do any of this very well with an apc40 already.

but kudos for the effort.
I understand, personally i try to work with less channels and more work on sound modulation and instrument, that why i try this design, for the "left to right" navigation i hate that too, that why just up to the cross nav i put some button for presets positions, so you can switch your position to 4 drum channel to 4 other channel with loop and 4 channel for return fx 4 masters channel ...this kind of thing.
But you're right it look like a """traktorizing""" approach but with instrument , sequencer, personal FX ...

28.10.2010		still don't know about the whole "a b c d" thing. it's traktorizing. personally I've always felt like even 8 channels are not enough (hence my apc80), I can't imagine playing a liveset with only 4 tracks - and constantly skipping left to right is not very ergonomical. for dj applications, yes, maybe. but it's not like you can't do any of this very well with an apc40 already.

but kudos for the effort.
Neil Tominaga
28.10.2010		 my first fake design
Buster Kiper
28.10.2010		i would just kill to have something like this
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by djsakebomb
I use it in Ableton as a wet/dry with dummy clips :P
I'm sure people do use it lol, just not everyone. And this guy hasn't exactly left you with a shortage of encoders lol!
Ling Zambada
27.10.2010		I use it in Ableton as a wet/dry with dummy clips :P
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by djsakebomb
There's no crossfader...?
To be fair a lot of people never even use the crossfader, particularly in Ableton.
Ling Zambada
27.10.2010		There's no crossfader...?
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by srinterface
yes yes it's just a concept design

i made this alternative for more comfortable use of the grid section

That's a hell of a lot of encoders... like what you've done with the 4x4 grid at the bottom though.
Neil Tominaga
27.10.2010		yes yes it's just a concept design

i made this alternative for more comfortable use of the grid section

Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Er, I'm confused - how do you plan to build this?
I believe it's more of a concept idea... if someone did build this as a DIY mod they would be a whole new kind of brilliant.
Janyce Henningson
27.10.2010		Er, I'm confused - how do you plan to build this?
Neil Tominaga
27.10.2010		i wil make new version with separate grid and vertical control it will be more clear maybe and more comfortable to use
Neil Tominaga
27.10.2010		and you can store the position in the grid with preset buton on the bottom right
Neil Tominaga
27.10.2010		Perhaps I did not was clear in the description, you can navigate in the grid too ...otherwise it will not have utility
Nedra Fresneda
27.10.2010		i like apc80 better this is nothing more than a 4ch mixer with fancy lights. main idea of th apc series and the launchpad is controlling the grid, something no other controller was able to do like them before (perhaps monome?), your design is closer to de VCM6000 wich I find great, but missing this crucial function.

your mapping approach is way too traktor lol, believe control surface mode
Arcelia Siebeneck
27.10.2010		I believe that's a good concept personally... but then I never saw the point in using Ableton Live as anything other than a DAW... much prefer using Traktor to perform live.
Halina Gopinath
27.10.2010		I believe this is pretty cool actually, DJing wise this is like the 4midiloop and will be good.

Do your own thing and have fun doing it
Neil Tominaga
27.10.2010		mmm i don't believe modulate 2 signals in the same time is use only by DJ ... no ?

27.10.2010		you begin your video with the words "the apc40 could be frustrating for live performance" - if you own one, I suggest you learn to use it and then re-evaluate that statement - or just sell it

it's an ableton controller, and ableton is live performance first. from the looks of it, you're trying to traktorize an ableton liveset and make it more of a DJ tool, which is... balls. sorry, but I don't like this approach one bit. this may be due to the fact that I believe DJing with ableton live is like buying a porsche 911 just to drive around the corner and get cigarettes...
Neil Tominaga
27.10.2010		I agree there are only 4 track ... but with preset position and the possibility to controller not just the track you have in selection and with more variety than just knobs .... this is actually my big frustration

(sorry for my very bad english )
Tatum Ansaldo
27.10.2010		Not sure what the big Ableton fans on here will believe of this. It loses the control grid functionality of the APC40 and only controls 4 channels, it looks almost like you designed it for Traktor control rather than Ableton.

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