vci 100 or 300 or mk2 ??? please help
vci 100 or 300 or mk2 ??? please help Posted on: 29.12.2010 by Daniele Slovensky hi there,I hope I am posting this at the right spot. I have sold my dvs system and want to use a controller instead. I am believeing of going either for the vestax vci 300 or 100mk2 or 100. every device has its advantages and disadvantages what makes it really difficult to make a decission. I really like the scratch performance of the vci 300 but it kinda pisses me of that I have to buy a vfx in addition to use the effects. it also doesn't have 4 deck support... so if I want to trigger my samples I need another device or hopefully the bridge+ableton(if itch 2.0 is ever released) which will also cost another few hundered dollars. so if I put all together I will spend at least 1000$ for a complete setup ... if I go for the vci 100 I need an additional soundcard and the 1.4 firmware upgrade... or I go for the 100mk2 which doesn't have the best soundcard and as far as I know also doesn't have 14 bit midi pitchfaders. to sum it up.... is there anyone who can recommend me one of the controllers? All I want is ONE reliable device plus my macbook when I go spinning. or do you believe it is worth spending a 1000$ and go for the vci 300 + vfx? oh, before I forget... I have to buy it asap... need to spin with it on the 31st... thanks for your time... | |
| Vida Shult 06.01.2011 | I've just order the VCI-100 Mk2 today. I ordered it on the following grounds. My requirements. Midi-controller that is mapped for 4 decks in Traktor Pro. Jog wheels for cueing and capable of very basic scratching. Must be from a brand renowned for it's quality. Must not look tacky or look like a toy. Get good reviews Must be small and compact for quick setup in Clubs need Balanced outputs dedicated Mic with good EQ'ing The choices NI Kontrol S4 A&H Xone DX VCI-100 Mk2 VCI-300 Mk2 ADJ VMS4 Kontrol S4: comes across as the perfect controller however the Mic doesn't have a dedicated channel and the switch is at the back of the unit. the worse bit is there are many complaints about having to recalibrate the jog wheels and some units not functioning on arrival with broken parts. The overall perception is this would be a great controller if only it worked 100% or arrived in A1 condition. For me the reliability needs to improve before I'd take it on the road. I did order one back in October then cancelled my order 2 days later. Xone DX : Again the Xone DX doesn't have a dedicated Mic and the switch is also not easily accessible. Reports on community s about units arriving DOA and nonfunctioning buttons was also a reason for concern. Then there is the Serato factor. Not that I don't like Serato but there's no way to upgrade ITCH for DVS control and the jog wheels definitely do not offer any scratch possibilities. The pitch control dials get a less than warm reception and although I use 'sync' to get a quick rough BPM match combined with some manual beat-matching I fear the 'pitch-potties' with probably have me relying on the 'sync' function more and more as time goes on. So as with the Kontrol S4 there were too many quality control issues coupled with ITCH, scratch, sync complications that the price wasn't worth the compromises. VCI-300: This controller would tick the right boxes for the price but there's no 4 deck control without trying to add modifiers in Traktor and again the lack of mic EQ'ing still remained an issue. VSM4: I have a lot of praise for the VSM4 price wise it's the cheapest of the lot. It can also be used as a stand alone mixer and has a dedicated mic input with mild EQ'ing. It's has balanced XLR out and the jog wheels are capable of some basic scratches. So really the VMS4 should have been the one. However it wasn't the winner because I need to map every button to Traktor which will take a few days to get right and as far as I can search there is still no .tsi file on the net that doesn't have complications. VCI-100 MK2 So how can a cheap looking midi box with no Mic input and no balanced outputs end up being the unit I ordered. Well it's |
| Vida Shult 06.01.2011 | I've just order the VCI-100 Mk2 today. I ordered it on the following grounds. My requirements. Midi-controller that is mapped for 4 decks in Traktor Pro. Jog wheels for cueing and capable of very basic scratching. Must be from a brand renowned for it's quality. Must not look tacky or look like a toy. Get good reviews Must be small and compact for quick setup in Clubs need Balanced outputs dedicated Mic with good EQ'ing The choices NI Kontrol S4 A&H Xone DX VCI-100 Mk2 VCI-300 Mk2 ADJ VMS4 Kontrol S4: comes across as the perfect controller however the Mic doesn't have a dedicated channel and the switch is at the back of the unit. the worse bit is there are many complaints about having to recalibrate the jog wheels and some units not functioning on arrival with broken parts. The overall perception is this would be a great controller if only it worked 100% or arrived in A1 condition. For me the reliability needs to improve before I'd take it on the road. I did order one back in October then cancelled my order 2 days later. Xone DX : Again the Xone DX doesn't have a dedicated Mic and the switch is also not easily accessible. Reports on community s about units arriving DOA and nonfunctioning buttons was also a reason for concern. Then there is the Serato factor. Not that I don't like Serato but there's no way to upgrade ITCH for DVS control and the jog wheels definitely do not offer any scratch possibilities. The pitch control dials get a less than warm reception and although I use 'sync' to get a quick rough BPM match combined with some manual beat-matching I fear the 'pitch-potties' with probably have me relying on the 'sync' function more and more as time goes on. So as with the Kontrol S4 there were too many quality control issues coupled with ITCH, scratch, sync complications that the price wasn't worth the compromises. VCI-300: This controller would tick the right boxes for the price but there's no 4 deck control without trying to add modifiers in Traktor and again the lack of mic EQ'ing still remained an issue. VSM4: I have a lot of praise for the VSM4 price wise it's the cheapest of the lot. It can also be used as a stand alone mixer and has a dedicated mic input with mild EQ'ing. It's has balanced XLR out and the jog wheels are capable of some basic scratches. So really the VMS4 should have been the one. However it wasn't the winner because I need to map every button to Traktor which will take a few days to get right and as far as I can search there is still no .tsi file on the net that doesn't have complications. VCI-100 MK2 So how can a cheap looking midi box with no Mic input and no balanced outputs end up being the unit I ordered. Well it's |
| Vida Shult 06.01.2011 | I've just order the VCI-100 Mk2 today. I ordered it on the following grounds. My requirements. Midi-controller that is mapped for 4 decks in Traktor Pro. Jog wheels for cueing and capable of very basic scratching. Must be from a brand renowned for it's quality. Must not look tacky or look like a toy. Get good reviews Must be small and compact for quick setup in Clubs need Balanced outputs dedicated Mic with good EQ'ing The choices NI Kontrol S4 A&H Xone DX VCI-100 Mk2 VCI-300 Mk2 ADJ VMS4 Kontrol S4: comes across as the perfect controller however the Mic doesn't have a dedicated channel and the switch is at the back of the unit. the worse bit is there are many complaints about having to recalibrate the jog wheels and some units not functioning on arrival with broken parts. The overall perception is this would be a great controller if only it worked 100% or arrived in A1 condition. For me the reliability needs to improve before I'd take it on the road. I did order one back in October then cancelled my order 2 days later. Xone DX : Again the Xone DX doesn't have a dedicated Mic and the switch is also not easily accessible. Reports on community s about units arriving DOA and nonfunctioning buttons was also a reason for concern. Then there is the Serato factor. Not that I don't like Serato but there's no way to upgrade ITCH for DVS control and the jog wheels definitely do not offer any scratch possibilities. The pitch control dials get a less than warm reception and although I use 'sync' to get a quick rough BPM match combined with some manual beat-matching I fear the 'pitch-potties' with probably have me relying on the 'sync' function more and more as time goes on. So as with the Kontrol S4 there were too many quality control issues coupled with ITCH, scratch, sync complications that the price wasn't worth the compromises. VCI-300: This controller would tick the right boxes for the price but there's no 4 deck control without trying to add modifiers in Traktor and again the lack of mic EQ'ing still remained an issue. VSM4: I have a lot of praise for the VSM4 price wise it's the cheapest of the lot. It can also be used as a stand alone mixer and has a dedicated mic input with mild EQ'ing. It's has balanced XLR out and the jog wheels are capable of some basic scratches. So really the VMS4 should have been the one. However it wasn't the winner because I need to map every button to Traktor which will take a few days to get right and as far as I can search there is still no .tsi file on the net that doesn't have complications. VCI-100 MK2 So how can a cheap looking midi box with no Mic input and no balanced outputs end up being the unit I ordered. Well it's |
| Vida Shult 06.01.2011 | I've just order the VCI-100 Mk2 today. I ordered it on the following grounds. My requirements. Midi-controller that is mapped for 4 decks in Traktor Pro. Jog wheels for cueing and capable of very basic scratching. Must be from a brand renowned for it's quality. Must not look tacky or look like a toy. Get good reviews Must be small and compact for quick setup in Clubs need Balanced outputs dedicated Mic with good EQ'ing The choices NI Kontrol S4 A&H Xone DX VCI-100 Mk2 VCI-300 Mk2 ADJ VMS4 Kontrol S4: comes across as the perfect controller however the Mic doesn't have a dedicated channel and the switch is at the back of the unit. the worse bit is there are many complaints about having to recalibrate the jog wheels and some units not functioning on arrival with broken parts. The overall perception is this would be a great controller if only it worked 100% or arrived in A1 condition. For me the reliability needs to improve before I'd take it on the road. I did order one back in October then cancelled my order 2 days later. Xone DX : Again the Xone DX doesn't have a dedicated Mic and the switch is also not easily accessible. Reports on community s about units arriving DOA and nonfunctioning buttons was also a reason for concern. Then there is the Serato factor. Not that I don't like Serato but there's no way to upgrade ITCH for DVS control and the jog wheels definitely do not offer any scratch possibilities. The pitch control dials get a less than warm reception and although I use 'sync' to get a quick rough BPM match combined with some manual beat-matching I fear the 'pitch-potties' with probably have me relying on the 'sync' function more and more as time goes on. So as with the Kontrol S4 there were too many quality control issues coupled with ITCH, scratch, sync complications that the price wasn't worth the compromises. VCI-300: This controller would tick the right boxes for the price but there's no 4 deck control without trying to add modifiers in Traktor and again the lack of mic EQ'ing still remained an issue. VSM4: I have a lot of praise for the VSM4 price wise it's the cheapest of the lot. It can also be used as a stand alone mixer and has a dedicated mic input with mild EQ'ing. It's has balanced XLR out and the jog wheels are capable of some basic scratches. So really the VMS4 should have been the one. However it wasn't the winner because I need to map every button to Traktor which will take a few days to get right and as far as I can search there is still no .tsi file on the net that doesn't have complications. VCI-100 MK2 So how can a cheap looking midi box with no Mic input and no balanced outputs end up being the unit I ordered. Well it's |
| Cammy Clegg 18.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by DjWindzOne
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| Vernie Beharry 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Tatum Ansaldo 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by tyfurious
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| Tatum Ansaldo 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by DjWindzOne
I really hope not... |
| Vida Shult 06.01.2011 | I've just order the VCI-100 Mk2 today. I ordered it on the following grounds. My requirements. Midi-controller that is mapped for 4 decks in Traktor Pro. Jog wheels for cueing and capable of very basic scratching. Must be from a brand renowned for it's quality. Must not look tacky or look like a toy. Get good reviews Must be small and compact for quick setup in Clubs need Balanced outputs dedicated Mic with good EQ'ing The choices NI Kontrol S4 A&H Xone DX VCI-100 Mk2 VCI-300 Mk2 ADJ VMS4 Kontrol S4: comes across as the perfect controller however the Mic doesn't have a dedicated channel and the switch is at the back of the unit. the worse bit is there are many complaints about having to recalibrate the jog wheels and some units not functioning on arrival with broken parts. The overall perception is this would be a great controller if only it worked 100% or arrived in A1 condition. For me the reliability needs to improve before I'd take it on the road. I did order one back in October then cancelled my order 2 days later. Xone DX : Again the Xone DX doesn't have a dedicated Mic and the switch is also not easily accessible. Reports on community s about units arriving DOA and nonfunctioning buttons was also a reason for concern. Then there is the Serato factor. Not that I don't like Serato but there's no way to upgrade ITCH for DVS control and the jog wheels definitely do not offer any scratch possibilities. The pitch control dials get a less than warm reception and although I use 'sync' to get a quick rough BPM match combined with some manual beat-matching I fear the 'pitch-potties' with probably have me relying on the 'sync' function more and more as time goes on. So as with the Kontrol S4 there were too many quality control issues coupled with ITCH, scratch, sync complications that the price wasn't worth the compromises. VCI-300: This controller would tick the right boxes for the price but there's no 4 deck control without trying to add modifiers in Traktor and again the lack of mic EQ'ing still remained an issue. VSM4: I have a lot of praise for the VSM4 price wise it's the cheapest of the lot. It can also be used as a stand alone mixer and has a dedicated mic input with mild EQ'ing. It's has balanced XLR out and the jog wheels are capable of some basic scratches. So really the VMS4 should have been the one. However it wasn't the winner because I need to map every button to Traktor which will take a few days to get right and as far as I can search there is still no .tsi file on the net that doesn't have complications. VCI-100 MK2 So how can a cheap looking midi box with no Mic input and no balanced outputs end up being the unit I ordered. Well it's |
| Cammy Clegg 18.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by DjWindzOne
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| Tatum Ansaldo 17.01.2011 | All I know about the mkII soundcard is what I've heard on here (that it's functional but not great) and what a guy in sapphires told me, that it wasn't up to much. |
| Vernie Beharry 17.01.2011 |
mediocre soundcard
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| Vida Shult 17.01.2011 | Have to add an update to this thread. So I make a great big post on why I ordered the VCI-100 MK2, only to send it back a day later as it stopped working. I believe it also frazzled my Audio 8 in the process. I now have 2 Xone:1Ds to accompany the Xone:92. Maybe I'm just a Hawtin Fanboy??? |
| Tatum Ansaldo 14.01.2011 | I believe there's no doubt that the mkII is going to be far less popular than the mkI. Worse build quality, mediocre soundcard and lack of DJTT support don't bode well! for now I'm very happy with my sexy modded DIY SE. |
| Vernie Beharry 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Tatum Ansaldo 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by tyfurious
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| Gilma Marchini 14.01.2011 | For a bit more you could get a vci 100se arcade instead of a mkii. The mapping for the VCI-100's from DJTT makes them amazing, and I would consider it over the mkii simply for the mappings. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 14.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by DjWindzOne
I really hope not... |
| Vernie Beharry 13.01.2011 | Off topic. . . but with no way to do a arcade mod, kinda defeats the purpose. . . |
| Vida Shult 06.01.2011 | I've just order the VCI-100 Mk2 today. I ordered it on the following grounds. My requirements. Midi-controller that is mapped for 4 decks in Traktor Pro. Jog wheels for cueing and capable of very basic scratching. Must be from a brand renowned for it's quality. Must not look tacky or look like a toy. Get good reviews Must be small and compact for quick setup in Clubs need Balanced outputs dedicated Mic with good EQ'ing The choices NI Kontrol S4 A&H Xone DX VCI-100 Mk2 VCI-300 Mk2 ADJ VMS4 Kontrol S4: comes across as the perfect controller however the Mic doesn't have a dedicated channel and the switch is at the back of the unit. the worse bit is there are many complaints about having to recalibrate the jog wheels and some units not functioning on arrival with broken parts. The overall perception is this would be a great controller if only it worked 100% or arrived in A1 condition. For me the reliability needs to improve before I'd take it on the road. I did order one back in October then cancelled my order 2 days later. Xone DX : Again the Xone DX doesn't have a dedicated Mic and the switch is also not easily accessible. Reports on community s about units arriving DOA and nonfunctioning buttons was also a reason for concern. Then there is the Serato factor. Not that I don't like Serato but there's no way to upgrade ITCH for DVS control and the jog wheels definitely do not offer any scratch possibilities. The pitch control dials get a less than warm reception and although I use 'sync' to get a quick rough BPM match combined with some manual beat-matching I fear the 'pitch-potties' with probably have me relying on the 'sync' function more and more as time goes on. So as with the Kontrol S4 there were too many quality control issues coupled with ITCH, scratch, sync complications that the price wasn't worth the compromises. VCI-300: This controller would tick the right boxes for the price but there's no 4 deck control without trying to add modifiers in Traktor and again the lack of mic EQ'ing still remained an issue. VSM4: I have a lot of praise for the VSM4 price wise it's the cheapest of the lot. It can also be used as a stand alone mixer and has a dedicated mic input with mild EQ'ing. It's has balanced XLR out and the jog wheels are capable of some basic scratches. So really the VMS4 should have been the one. However it wasn't the winner because I need to map every button to Traktor which will take a few days to get right and as far as I can search there is still no .tsi file on the net that doesn't have complications. VCI-100 MK2 So how can a cheap looking midi box with no Mic input and no balanced outputs end up being the unit I ordered. Well it's |
| Estefana Musfeldt 02.01.2011 | I rock a macbook and the VCI 100 without the firmware upgrade and i have literally had NO problems at all. the led's on the buttons go a bit funny but its an astetics thing i don't really care about. It's a decent sturdy bit of kit. |
| Lorrine Eckstein 02.01.2011 |
Originally Posted by Magnus
Im pretty sure he was talking about the vci 100 mk2 not the S4 |
| Larhonda Quintard 01.01.2011 | Well I'm going to Aage Copenhagen in March (that's when I have enough money for some gear) and then I'll try it out myself. I'm going to headphones too. I believe I'm going for the AIAIAI (they are produced in Denmark. that is a plus). Should I be considering some other headphones? Anything else I maybe should be considering buying? Asantehifi: Then what are you going to get instead of the S4? |
| Daniele Slovensky 01.01.2011 | @ magnus don't buy it. I will return it on monday. the soundcard is loud and clear but doesn't sound good at all. the knobs on the front panel feel very bad too. the buttons can also not be compared with the vci 300. the jog wheels don't work better than the ones of the vci 300 used with traktor, rather worse. same issue with the pitch faders. some of the led's do not shine bright enough(for my taste)... the only thing I like is the light weight and the feel of the eq and fx knobs. line and x-fader are also ok... |
| Larhonda Quintard 31.12.2010 | Can you please tell me how it is? I'm considering buying the VCI100Mk2, VCI300Mk2 or the NI S4. |
| Daniele Slovensky 30.12.2010 | hi there, thanks for your reply... I was about to buy the s4 today but when I was standing in front of it I thought this is way to big for me... I have bought the mk2 now... will test it toevening on a big pa... cheers |
| So Francis 30.12.2010 | Well if you're looking at $1000 i'd be debating between the NI S4 and Denon MC-6000, which or both really solid controllers. But honestly, at 1000 you can buy two numark V7's (with rebate that comes with it) as well as a mixer (Like the DDM4000) which would be the best setup INMHO. But then again, if you want a single all-in-one thing, there's also the new numark 4-channel controller that's comming out soon, so if i were you i'd wait to see how that turns out. |
| Matthew Urtel 30.12.2010 | what do you mix?.... |
| Yvone Kanatzar 30.12.2010 | does S4 have high resolution 14 bit midi pitchfaders? |
| Lorrine Eckstein 30.12.2010 | ....... Traktor S4? |
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