Akai APC20/APC40 : any good for cue point juggling ?
Akai APC20/APC40 : any good for cue point juggling ? Posted on: 12.07.2010 by Erick Pelke Hello everyone,I was believeing about buying an Akai APC20 to use with traktor, mainly for cue points and FX. I like the big amount of buttons and faders. But the only reason I didn't buy it yet, is this : Are buttons any good for cue point juggling ? Would it be possible to do all those crazy DJTechtools juggle routines on it ? Or are the buttons not good enough for that ? I didn't see anyone on YouTube using it for this purpose and I don't know place where I can test it myself. So I am counting on your experiences. So pleace, share your experiences with me. | |
| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Erick Pelke 12.07.2010 | Hello everyone, I was believeing about buying an Akai APC20 to use with traktor, mainly for cue points and FX. I like the big amount of buttons and faders. But the only reason I didn't buy it yet, is this : Are buttons any good for cue point juggling ? Would it be possible to do all those crazy DJTechtools juggle routines on it ? Or are the buttons not good enough for that ? I didn't see anyone on YouTube using it for this purpose and I don't know place where I can test it myself. So I am counting on your experiences. So pleace, share your experiences with me. |
| Erick Pelke 04.02.2011 | Would it be possible to do something like in this movie ? Especialy the part at 30 seconds. Or would it be hard to do with an APC. http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tu5K2Gj5I |
| Isreal Roberto 18.01.2011 | I just got an APC40 recently. I also use my Launchpad for some cuepoint juggling. Comparing the two, the launchpad is much more responsive for doing quick juggling, but the midi fighter is unmatched when it comes to these things. However you can get an APC40 used for around $250 now, so it's a pretty good bargain for what you do get. It's definitely usable as a 4 deck mixer.. I'm using the launchpad as an extra controller which will work on the focus deck to do cue point jugging and the rest of it is mapped to tons and tons of fx. Anyway you could use the apc20 as a solo controller, wouldn't really have much free knobs for fx and eq but it could be done. I'd probably use the midi fighter deckalized mapping and re-map the buttons for the apc20 with 2 decks if I were going to do that. The faders could be line faders and EQ, and just go without a crossfader. you could use some of the extra buttons to load different effect presets, and use the solo/cue/mute buttons to toggle fx on and off. If you were planning on hooking it up to an external mixer I believe it would give you all the control needed for some pretty cool stuff, and if you were using it by itself it would probably be sufficient. |
| Omer Schmigel 02.09.2010 | i'm looking at an apc 20 at the minute anyone have experience using it with traktor? |
| Aurea Kager 02.09.2010 |
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| Erick Pelke 02.09.2010 | If i would buy an Akai APC 20, i would like to use the faders to control the FX. But when i look at pictures of the APC, I see that there isn't much space between the faders. Do you believe that this gonna be a problem ? (touching other fader when you don't want to) PS : I don't have thick fingers |
| Lilliana Perris 02.09.2010 | No idea.... But the answer is YES!!! Since getting it....all i seem to want to do is jump cue points and make FX! It took a little getting used to the little pads....buts its KILLER! Specially using it with Traktor. Used to use the VCI....but you had to change modes to get to Cue Points etc. Now its all there on one layer. Its sick. You won;t go wrong! I have had mine 3 weeks....and I am sold on it. My VCI is jealous! I have set them both up in Traktor...using a TSI from Steph...and the DJTT VCI mapping. I leave the VCI in FX mode....and use its crate scroll function etc. For the rest....its the APC40. GET IT! |
| Erick Pelke 01.09.2010 | Aren't there anymore people who use it for cue point juggling ? |
| Lynetta Piacentino 16.07.2010 | You don't need Ableton, the controllers will work fine without it. |
| Cheyenne Golay 14.07.2010 | I just ordered the new macbookpro so should be easy. I couldn't find any tutorial how to do the send monitor state, I heard on pc doesn't work very well. I was wondering about the launchpad as well, how hard would be to have the led feedback, which one would be easier to work with other software. Do I must have ableton installed on my machine to work with the apc ou launchpad? Sorry for hijacking the thread. thanks |
| Lynetta Piacentino 14.07.2010 | The APC works well on both Ableton and Traktor. For traktor you don't need a specific hack, although if you want full control over led's etc in Traktor then you need to use that dumb mode trick (open ableton, close ableton, open traktor) . On a Mac it is even better as you can use the 'send monitor state' commands which updates your leds, on the Windows machine you need some more mapping on modifiers (I'm busy with that as well). So you need to spend some time on mapping in Traktor, but that is mostly to decide on what you want to do with all those buttons, the mapping itself is easy |
| Cheyenne Golay 14.07.2010 | Hey timmio I have this dilemma as well about which midi controller to work with traktor and if it possible to set on the same laptop use with ableton live as well. Is it easy to set up the midi and led feedback with apc40 and traktor? Do you have to use any other software or hack to achieve this on the traktor midi set up is enough? Thanks. |
| Lynetta Piacentino 13.07.2010 | You probably need to check this out in the store yourself. I've an APC40 myself and although the buttons are fine and responsive, they might be a bit to small to handle the real 'hardcore' thumbing . Also the buttons might be to small, and you'd like to have pads (or bigger buttons) for juggling. Therefore I ordered a Midi Fighter myself in addition to my APC40 to handle the real juggling stuff (but I don't know yet whether it will be better for real, need to test it first). The main advantage is that the APC40 customisations possibilities are amazing, I'm currently building an MF-style mapping for the APC40 but as this has more buttons, there are way more options. |
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