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Denon DNS-3500 Modification Posted on: 05.03.2011 by Pearly Fatovic If you have a set of these excellent CDJs then you'll probably be looking wantingly at the 3700's and their 10" of platter against your measly 7". Well, www.extrainches.co.uk comes to the rescue. Add 2 extra inches to your platter in seconds, for a tiny investment you can love your decks again! Would you rather spend
Cristian Carmona 08.03.2011	Originally Posted by JayDub What's the problem with that. Facebook allows me to build loyalty, communicate, sell with ecommerce, host videos. It's the perfect platform. Don't diss! Believe me im not hating, but you used a co.uk and did a redirect to FB, without warning any users that they will be going to FB. Most of use check the community from work during breaks or lunches. And going to a social network site is prohibited at most jobs so we can be getting in trouble by going to your site. So thanks. BTW thread has been closed. Why? You are selling products on DJTT and not following our buy/sell rules. And this is viewed as advertising
Louisa Oberc 08.03.2011	Originally Posted by JayDub Lol. Necro probably would too ;-) I'm still at prototype stage so the sales process will be far more obvious v soon. I'm not expecting this to be huge. And I'll keep an eye on paypal. Thanks. It's just a cool idea to mod an already cool set of products. I hope dj's like em. Do you have a set? :P I can't count how many times I've had to educate people about my nick... It's 'mancer, not 'philiac, who in their right mind would name themselves Dj Necrophiliac There's a bunch of recordings in the archives over at dvsdjtv.com if you don't mind my lack of skills (or UK Hardcore for that matter). I am not good by any stretch, more than a couple of trainwrecks, but I don't care much I have more audio sets recorded, but nothing that I am willing to put online... One day I do intend on getting something online... More on topic though, I'd have to agree with a previous reply. In that you shouldn't focus the platter on the denon, you could see a much greater audience if you could figure out how to make them work with a variety of controllers/cdj's... Think about the numbers: for the sake of easy math, there are 100,000 dj's out there... Lets say 2% have denons (2,000), of them 10% may want to mod them (200)... Obviously I pulled these numbers out of thin air, but the point should still be clear
Maryanne Weatherill 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 would love to see some pictures of just the platter... might be a useful purchase for people making their own custom diy controllers... like me Ya i could see more of a market in it being used for custom controllers than on these Denons. I dont know many people who own one and have interest in modifying it.
Fannie Ohayre 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by JayDub ... The weight is almost identical to the 7" perspex platter, the modification 8" or 9" platter weighs less than the 7" record with adapter option you can use on the system as standard, so the engineering tolerances are already able to take this mod... What material(s) are used in the making the platter? If the platter is larger than the original, yet "weighs less", the material used must be a lighter material or is it the same as the original platter only machined thinner?
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by Kontrol I was told size didn't matter..... LOL deep down you know that's not true ;-)
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by space monkey What are the long term effects of the extra weight on the DD motor? Does the extra leverage due the increased circumference take the dynamics so far out of engineering specs so as to cause damage to bearings and/or drives? Long term effects will be nil, the extra circumference won't make a difference to the leverage, that changes scratch by scratch anyway, whether you are moving the platter fast, slow, gently or firm... so no changes there in terms of stress on the unit, they are engineered to deal with different DJ styles and techniques, not to be operated with exactly the same force every time from every DJ, so this isn't a measurable factor or an issue. The weight is almost identical to the 7" perspex platter, the modification 8" or 9" platter weighs less than the 7" record with adapter option you can use on the system as standard, so the engineering tolerances are already able to take this mod. Both good points to raise, but both answered confidently as not an issue :-)
Cristian Carmona 08.03.2011	Originally Posted by JayDub What's the problem with that. Facebook allows me to build loyalty, communicate, sell with ecommerce, host videos. It's the perfect platform. Don't diss! Believe me im not hating, but you used a co.uk and did a redirect to FB, without warning any users that they will be going to FB. Most of use check the community from work during breaks or lunches. And going to a social network site is prohibited at most jobs so we can be getting in trouble by going to your site. So thanks. BTW thread has been closed. Why? You are selling products on DJTT and not following our buy/sell rules. And this is viewed as advertising
Louisa Oberc 08.03.2011	Originally Posted by JayDub Lol. Necro probably would too ;-) I'm still at prototype stage so the sales process will be far more obvious v soon. I'm not expecting this to be huge. And I'll keep an eye on paypal. Thanks. It's just a cool idea to mod an already cool set of products. I hope dj's like em. Do you have a set? :P I can't count how many times I've had to educate people about my nick... It's 'mancer, not 'philiac, who in their right mind would name themselves Dj Necrophiliac There's a bunch of recordings in the archives over at dvsdjtv.com if you don't mind my lack of skills (or UK Hardcore for that matter). I am not good by any stretch, more than a couple of trainwrecks, but I don't care much I have more audio sets recorded, but nothing that I am willing to put online... One day I do intend on getting something online... More on topic though, I'd have to agree with a previous reply. In that you shouldn't focus the platter on the denon, you could see a much greater audience if you could figure out how to make them work with a variety of controllers/cdj's... Think about the numbers: for the sake of easy math, there are 100,000 dj's out there... Lets say 2% have denons (2,000), of them 10% may want to mod them (200)... Obviously I pulled these numbers out of thin air, but the point should still be clear
Pearly Fatovic 08.03.2011	Fair point, videos are being shot tomorrow. Will post here. Thanks...
Arcelia Siebeneck 08.03.2011	personally, I don't mind if you're using facebook as your website but I'd be careful about promoting a product that doesn't appear to exist yet... I need some pix dammit!
Pearly Fatovic 08.03.2011	Lol. Necro probably would too ;-) I'm still at prototype stage so the sales process will be far more obvious v soon. I'm not expecting this to be huge. And I'll keep an eye on paypal. Thanks. It's just a cool idea to mod an already cool set of products. I hope dj's like em. Do you have a set?
Louisa Oberc 08.03.2011	I never said not to use facebook, quite the opposite, social media can make or break quite a few businesses, I just feel that it should be used in addition to traditional methods. Not as a sole method of reaching your audience. Granted, your target demographic does tend to be more active in the social 'arena', but that shouldn't be your only target. I for one visited your facebook page, and didn't even know I could buy them. Also note that a couple of posts in this thread also questioned when if or when they would be available. I had no idea you could sell stuff on facebook... I'm sure many other people didn't know that either... /start rant Don't get me started on paypal for receiving payments (sending is fine and secure)... I have heard of far too many horror stories due to people using them as a bank... If you take any of my advice, please do not keep any money in your paypal account... They can and have taken peoples money with little to no recourse. They're not a bank, therefore they are not subject to the same rules and regulations... /end rant Oh, and the name you picked "extra inches"... while quite witty and accurate, may pose some issues with spam filters...
Pearly Fatovic 08.03.2011	And I've used squarespace too. For small projects. And Wordpress. And Expression Engine and we have our own CMS and lots of bespoke sites for clients. I'm cool with Facebook for this, it's social word of mouth capability is exactly what's needed for this product. And I can discount my product of you 'like' my page. What's not cool about that!
Pearly Fatovic 08.03.2011	Well as someone who has delivered digital marketing solutions for over 15 years and owns my own digital agency, I'm probably in a reasonable position to judge the usefulness and potential role of Facebook for small niche businesses like this one as their sole public face. But thanks for the comments. I'd suggest you keep an eye on Facebook. More businesses like this will be using it as a platform and in some cases their only platform. I'm using Paypal as my method of payment and that's quite popular too! LOL sorry for the sarcasm, just your issue with Facebook not being a serious platform for my little business has made me chuckle. Thanks.
Louisa Oberc 07.03.2011	What's the problem with that. Facebook allows me to build loyalty, communicate, sell with ecommerce, host videos. It's the perfect platform. Don't diss! I am not sure I know anyone willing to buy anything from a facebook page.. If you want to sell these things with any chance of success, you need a real website.... You can easily leverage facebook for promotional reasons, but you need a real website for anyone to take you seriously.. This isn't me 'hating' on you, it's the truth... social media should be used to promote your product to the masses, but not as your products only source of information. I for one do not have a facebook account, nor will I ever, ever sign up for one... http://www.squarespace.com/ It allows anyone with zero knowledge of webdesign get a site up and running in no time... dirt cheap plans are available as well... (I am in NO way affiliated with squarespace, just a fan of their service)
Pearly Fatovic 07.03.2011	It's such a simple idea that anyone with these units will just believe "why not!" it's so simple cheap and quick and has an obvious enhancement that even if your happy with the device you'll see clearly why this makes them even better :-) Pics and videos will be posted on www.extrainches.co.uk go check it out, 'like' the Facebook page and you'll see when they're posted. Thanks!
Maryanne Weatherill 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 would love to see some pictures of just the platter... might be a useful purchase for people making their own custom diy controllers... like me Ya i could see more of a market in it being used for custom controllers than on these Denons. I dont know many people who own one and have interest in modifying it.
Arcelia Siebeneck 06.03.2011	would love to see some pictures of just the platter... might be a useful purchase for people making their own custom diy controllers... like me
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	I'm saying in weighs less than when you use the 45 7" record as your platter. Not the original perspex one :-)
Fannie Ohayre 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by JayDub ... The weight is almost identical to the 7" perspex platter, the modification 8" or 9" platter weighs less than the 7" record with adapter option you can use on the system as standard, so the engineering tolerances are already able to take this mod... What material(s) are used in the making the platter? If the platter is larger than the original, yet "weighs less", the material used must be a lighter material or is it the same as the original platter only machined thinner?
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	These work on the DN-HS5500 too!
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by Kontrol I was told size didn't matter..... LOL deep down you know that's not true ;-)
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by space monkey What are the long term effects of the extra weight on the DD motor? Does the extra leverage due the increased circumference take the dynamics so far out of engineering specs so as to cause damage to bearings and/or drives? Long term effects will be nil, the extra circumference won't make a difference to the leverage, that changes scratch by scratch anyway, whether you are moving the platter fast, slow, gently or firm... so no changes there in terms of stress on the unit, they are engineered to deal with different DJ styles and techniques, not to be operated with exactly the same force every time from every DJ, so this isn't a measurable factor or an issue. The weight is almost identical to the 7" perspex platter, the modification 8" or 9" platter weighs less than the 7" record with adapter option you can use on the system as standard, so the engineering tolerances are already able to take this mod. Both good points to raise, but both answered confidently as not an issue :-)
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by MiL0 can you upload some before and after pictures... I still can't work out what your product actually is! is it a 9" platter that you attach to the existing jog wheel? can you show a picture of it separately? (not attached to anything) or is it just a sticker/decal? It's a literal replacement for the platter, similar weight, same thickness, etc. Yes it overhangs, but that isn't such a big deal for some styles of DJ'ing, and the 8" unit overhang is minimal. The mod may really suit your style, and if so, then it will give you a 3700 size platter! Well worth a try instead of buying new units I reckon. There are other differences of course between the 3500 and the 3700, but to me the main difference is the platter size, I'm an old school DJ and don't use all the functionality of the units, so for that style of DJ it will be a key upgrade. That said, it doesn't impede any of the functionality of the units. I'll post video soon.
Branden Wentler 06.03.2011	What are the long term effects of the extra weight on the DD motor? Does the extra leverage due the increased circumference take the dynamics so far out of engineering specs so as to cause damage to bearings and/or drives?
Natashia Dionise 06.03.2011	I was told size didn't matter.....
Arcelia Siebeneck 06.03.2011	can you upload some before and after pictures... I still can't work out what your product actually is! is it a 9" platter that you attach to the existing jog wheel? can you show a picture of it separately? (not attached to anything) or is it just a sticker/decal?
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	Originally Posted by dj subculture I want to see a demo video. I'm working on that and will let you know :-)
Pearly Fatovic 06.03.2011	What's the problem with that. Facebook allows me to build loyalty, communicate, sell with ecommerce, host videos. It's the perfect platform. Don't diss!
Cristian Carmona 05.03.2011	seriously...facebook redirect.
Fannie Ohayre 05.03.2011	I want to see a demo video.
Antonetta Wikel 06.03.2011	Impress the ladies with your wider & fatter platter.

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