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classic midi fighter or novation dicer
Posted on: 01.06.2011 by Maybell Skalisky
Hey guys, first post here
I am going to be buying an S4 pretty soon and I am also planning on either getting a Classic Midi Fighter or a Novation Dicer. I can't decide which of these would make a better addition to my set-up. I am trying to weigh the advantages of each to see which will ultimately be more useful. As of right now, my believeing is:

Dicer-- Initially I was leaning towards the dicer because I thought it would be more cost-effective; I get two of them for a price that is less than a Classic Midi Fighter. This could be the wrong way to believe about it though because I am not entirely sure how easy it is to control multiple decks with a single midi fighter. If someone could shed some light on that it would be awesome. Also it seems like the Dicer may have greater versatility because I would be able to switch between cue points, effects, and loops depending on what I need. Like I said though, I am also buying an S4 so I already am able to control loops and cue points with that.

Midi Fighter-- More buttons (and button combinations, at that), sexier, etc

Any input is welcome.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by kooper1980
The Uppercut is my new favourite!!! DinoLolli sucks!!!
pun intended?
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
I'd call it 52 as well, for a standard midi fighter using 4 banks internal mode (13x4)

But then again apparently we're taking shift pages into account, so in reality it's more. If we discount the bank buttons and call them shifts, then that's 96 buttons right there.
hmmm...

dicer is cheaper though... tbh me arguing dicer against mf makes as much sense as an extinct reptile eating a candy treat. if only there was a smiliey for that...
Leeanna Ayla
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by BradCee
techincally the dicer has more 'controls' (ok only 10 buttons) when you take the pages + shift pages into account it has 60 possible functions, can't see why you'd buy 2 pairs though? well i kinda can, but strikes me as overkill...
And the Midi Fighter has way more than 16 buttons under that same theory.
Maybell Skalisky
01.06.2011
Hey guys, first post here
I am going to be buying an S4 pretty soon and I am also planning on either getting a Classic Midi Fighter or a Novation Dicer. I can't decide which of these would make a better addition to my set-up. I am trying to weigh the advantages of each to see which will ultimately be more useful. As of right now, my believeing is:

Dicer-- Initially I was leaning towards the dicer because I thought it would be more cost-effective; I get two of them for a price that is less than a Classic Midi Fighter. This could be the wrong way to believe about it though because I am not entirely sure how easy it is to control multiple decks with a single midi fighter. If someone could shed some light on that it would be awesome. Also it seems like the Dicer may have greater versatility because I would be able to switch between cue points, effects, and loops depending on what I need. Like I said though, I am also buying an S4 so I already am able to control loops and cue points with that.

Midi Fighter-- More buttons (and button combinations, at that), sexier, etc

Any input is welcome.
Maybell Skalisky
02.06.2011
With the Instant Gratification mapping, how exactly does the Midi Fighter handle which deck is being controlled? I know the top 4 buttons indicate which deck is being controlled but in Ean's video they also seem to have a secondary effect in which effects are continued, even without other buttons being pressed if that makes any sense..

My first guess would be that if you are controlling the first deck and you activate a few effects and then press the top left button it keeps these effects going, but if you are controlling a different deck and press this button it will merely switch to controlling the first deck. Is this the way it works?

Edit: Also, what advantage does a midi fighter have over an apc20? With the apc20, I would get more buttons and I would also get extra faders and it even costs less? The only thing I could believe of would be midi fighter having better responsiveness or something of that sort.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
yes, yes it is
Kristofer Krauel
02.06.2011
Its just there!!
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by kooper1980
The Uppercut is my new favourite!!! DinoLolli sucks!!!
pun intended?
Tatum Ansaldo
02.06.2011
I'm not arguing for or against anything lol, just doing the maths
Kristofer Krauel
02.06.2011
The Uppercut is my new favourite!!! DinoLolli sucks!!!
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
I'd call it 52 as well, for a standard midi fighter using 4 banks internal mode (13x4)

But then again apparently we're taking shift pages into account, so in reality it's more. If we discount the bank buttons and call them shifts, then that's 96 buttons right there.
hmmm...

dicer is cheaper though... tbh me arguing dicer against mf makes as much sense as an extinct reptile eating a candy treat. if only there was a smiliey for that...
Tatum Ansaldo
02.06.2011
I'd call it 52 as well, for a standard midi fighter using 4 banks internal mode (13x4)

But then again apparently we're taking shift pages into account, so in reality it's more. If we discount the bank buttons and call them shifts, then that's 96 buttons right there.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
oh yeah, cos top 4 change bank mode?

dicer wins!!

Kristofer Krauel
02.06.2011
52 i believe.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
i know... 4 banks mode takes it to 64 yeah?
Leeanna Ayla
02.06.2011
Originally Posted by BradCee
techincally the dicer has more 'controls' (ok only 10 buttons) when you take the pages + shift pages into account it has 60 possible functions, can't see why you'd buy 2 pairs though? well i kinda can, but strikes me as overkill...
And the Midi Fighter has way more than 16 buttons under that same theory.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
super knobs > more hands
Tatum Ansaldo
02.06.2011
Oh I'm sure it does, I mean if I tried to use everything at once I'd need several sets more hands and I imagine it would sound horrible. I'm just a sucker for gear, and I'm being paid pretty well this year
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
true... i have such a small set-up compared to everyone else. but it does some sick stuff
Tatum Ansaldo
02.06.2011
Brad, if you call that overkill, you clearly haven't seen my gear all together in one place.
Dorcas Bassignani
02.06.2011
techincally the dicer has more 'controls' (ok only 10 buttons) when you take the pages + shift pages into account it has 60 possible functions, can't see why you'd buy 2 pairs though? well i kinda can, but strikes me as overkill...
Ella Rick
02.06.2011
Midifighter all the way
Laurel Litchko
02.06.2011
i would go for the midifighter. it has great support here on djtt. you can also just map it yourself to fit your controller needs. also, its 1239085 times sexier. :P

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