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considering to buy a mashine (DAWs noob inside)
Posted on: 05.07.2011 by Janella Schlappich
As the topic says.... i'm a total noob with DAWs. I have no experience in using programs such as cubase, reason, ecc. But i really want to begin building my beats and my grooves, especially to build some mashups/remixes and maybe use it in live sets.

Is mashine simple enough for a DAW noob like me? i'm afraid to spend almost 600
Neil Malia
07.07.2011
Originally Posted by keeb
Congrats! I'm jealous - I would love one but can't afford it atm.
+1 I'm saving up for one!
Janella Schlappich
07.07.2011		yesterday i bought my maschine
i found the last one in my local resaler, discounted by 100
Danae Dumler
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by keeb
As far as I understand it yes. Also for production for sale of music. The idea of the edu version is to allow students to learn how to use the item to produce, and then once they actually start making a living off of producing they buy the full version.
This would make sense if there was an easy upgrade path but I don't see one. If you buy edu, you can't sell it (the software is non-transferable; all you can sell is the hardware), and you can't just upgrade the software -- you're stuck with selling the hardware with no software (lots of people have felt burned when they've bought under these circumstances so be very clear in your ad that no software is included) and then buying the full version and hardware again. Hopefully I'm wrong about this?
Ok Moroski
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by nuke5
this might be a dumb question but what do you mean commercial purposes? like live at shows?
As far as I understand it yes. Also for production for sale of music. The idea of the edu version is to allow students to learn how to use the item to produce, and then once they actually start making a living off of producing they buy the full version. Usually edu versions of software carry a heftier discount to make this tradeoff a but more worthwhile (I bought a Windows 7 Ultimate non-expiring edu license for $15 if I remember correctly).
Leeanna Ayla
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by nuke5
this might be a dumb question but what do you mean commercial purposes? like live at shows?
Yes or to produce music that's for sale. I'm sure there's more than that in eula with NI so it's best to research that on your own and determine if anything you plan to do falls into what they say you can't do with an edu version.
Neil Malia
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by keeb
Also can't be used for commercial purposes.
this might be a dumb question but what do you mean commercial purposes? like live at shows?
Neil Malia
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by Mi.Lo
how much the price differs?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NATIVE-INSTRUMEN...ht_3571wt_1139

usually its 499$ for educational and 599$ for the regular version, but you can find them cheaper than that
Janella Schlappich
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by mike_o
this IS the right decision.

feel free to pm with any questions.

and also I was wondering whaty type of stuff you plan pn producing?
basically... progressive house and any sort of grooves to build mashups :P

The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
how much the price differs?

Maschine is great. But it's not really a DAW per se. It's more of a beat creation interface like an mpc1000 or the like from everything I've seen. I see it as more of a supplement to an actual DAW like logic, reason, or ableton. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I get.
maybe after practicing with maschine i will be able to use ableton without many difficulties (at least they work in a very similar way)
Neil Malia
05.07.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
okay thanks for the help!
Ok Moroski
05.07.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
Also can't be used for commercial purposes.
Janella Schlappich
08.07.2011		save, save!
i have to say, it's worth every cent.
Neil Malia
07.07.2011
Originally Posted by keeb
Congrats! I'm jealous - I would love one but can't afford it atm.
+1 I'm saving up for one!
Ok Moroski
07.07.2011		Congrats! I'm jealous - I would love one but can't afford it atm.
Janella Schlappich
07.07.2011		yesterday i bought my maschine
i found the last one in my local resaler, discounted by 100
Danae Dumler
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by keeb
As far as I understand it yes. Also for production for sale of music. The idea of the edu version is to allow students to learn how to use the item to produce, and then once they actually start making a living off of producing they buy the full version.
This would make sense if there was an easy upgrade path but I don't see one. If you buy edu, you can't sell it (the software is non-transferable; all you can sell is the hardware), and you can't just upgrade the software -- you're stuck with selling the hardware with no software (lots of people have felt burned when they've bought under these circumstances so be very clear in your ad that no software is included) and then buying the full version and hardware again. Hopefully I'm wrong about this?
Neil Malia
07.07.2011		Ahh okay thanks for the clarification...I will have to research into it more since I can only use the student card for one more semester! Lol
Ok Moroski
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by nuke5
this might be a dumb question but what do you mean commercial purposes? like live at shows?
As far as I understand it yes. Also for production for sale of music. The idea of the edu version is to allow students to learn how to use the item to produce, and then once they actually start making a living off of producing they buy the full version. Usually edu versions of software carry a heftier discount to make this tradeoff a but more worthwhile (I bought a Windows 7 Ultimate non-expiring edu license for $15 if I remember correctly).
Leeanna Ayla
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by nuke5
this might be a dumb question but what do you mean commercial purposes? like live at shows?
Yes or to produce music that's for sale. I'm sure there's more than that in eula with NI so it's best to research that on your own and determine if anything you plan to do falls into what they say you can't do with an edu version.
Neil Malia
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by keeb
Also can't be used for commercial purposes.
this might be a dumb question but what do you mean commercial purposes? like live at shows?
Neil Malia
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by Mi.Lo
how much the price differs?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NATIVE-INSTRUMEN...ht_3571wt_1139

usually its 499$ for educational and 599$ for the regular version, but you can find them cheaper than that
Janella Schlappich
06.07.2011
Originally Posted by mike_o
this IS the right decision.

feel free to pm with any questions.

and also I was wondering whaty type of stuff you plan pn producing?
basically... progressive house and any sort of grooves to build mashups :P

The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
how much the price differs?

Maschine is great. But it's not really a DAW per se. It's more of a beat creation interface like an mpc1000 or the like from everything I've seen. I see it as more of a supplement to an actual DAW like logic, reason, or ableton. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I get.
maybe after practicing with maschine i will be able to use ableton without many difficulties (at least they work in a very similar way)
Neil Malia
05.07.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
okay thanks for the help!
Ok Moroski
05.07.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
Also can't be used for commercial purposes.
Ok Moroski
05.07.2011		Maschine is great. But it's not really a DAW per se. It's more of a beat creation interface like an mpc1000 or the like from everything I've seen. I see it as more of a supplement to an actual DAW like logic, reason, or ableton. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I get.
Leeanna Ayla
05.07.2011
Originally Posted by nuke5
I've been contemplating purchasing one as well and I know there is a regular version and an educational version...I'm at work right now so I can't check it out but is there a difference in the two or are they the same?
The educational version is identical, but can't be sold or the license transfers.
Merry Piesik
05.07.2011		I am new to production and Maschine is my first step. I absolutely love it. It's very intuitive. I have it sync'd with Traktor and route the Maschine audio from my headphone jack on my MBP to Deck C on my S4 (Live Input). It works great.

In particular, I've been using Maschine in Step mode to add in sounds on time. My strategy has been to use Mixed in Key to find the key, then make sure that the sounds/samples I trigger from Maschine are in that key or a compatible one.
Neil Malia
05.07.2011		I've been contemplating purchasing one as well and I know there is a regular version and an educational version...I'm at work right now so I can't check it out but is there a difference in the two or are they the same?
Benita Jankauskas
05.07.2011
Originally Posted by Mi.Lo
thanks a lot!
basically u vanished any doubt i had on mashine!
I'm going to buy it on this week or just after my vacations :P
this IS the right decision.

feel free to pm with any questions.

and also I was wondering whaty type of stuff you plan pn producing?
Janella Schlappich
05.07.2011		thanks a lot!
basically u vanished any doubt i had on mashine!
I'm going to buy it on this week or just after my vacations :P
Leeanna Ayla
05.07.2011		Maschine is one of the easiest ways to build solid sounding beats and I don't believe there's anything easier for sampling. I don't have any personnel experienced with sampling with other hardware, just what I've read.

Read the manual, watch tutorial videos and pop over to the Maschine community on NI and you'll be set.
Benita Jankauskas
05.07.2011		I've been producing for over 10 years, I've run protools, reason, logic and use Digital performer daily with maschine as my drum engine.

maschine is a perfect starting place, its not too much to learn but it has enough tools to create just about any style you want.

also maschine is an easy used re-sale if you dont like it, you probably only lose %20 off of the new price if you decide to sell it, so your not really risking the full value if you dont use it.

basically maschine is a beginners dream, go for it.
Yon Gigler
05.07.2011		I've had little experience with a few DAWs. Most that I've tried I found to be a little bit of a headache.

I bought Maschine a few months ago and I've managed to lay down my first track where as on previous software I struggled. The integration between the software and hardware is great and very easy to get the hang off. I hadn't even read any of the manual and I was able to create some loops.

I know its a lot of money to put down in case you either don't like it or find it difficult to navigate. But for me personally it's been the best piece of hardware and software I've used for production.

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