Making a touch sensitive jog wheel?

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Making a touch sensitive jog wheel?
Posted on: 13.08.2011 by Jan Manzoni
Hi,
I'm on the process of making a midi controller similar to the cdj series. I've figured out how to do everything except for this. I want to add touch sensitivity in my jog wheel but I can't figure out how to do that. I somehow need to connect electronics(a capacitive sensor) inside the wheel to the inside of the controller but I can't figure out how. Cables are ruled out, they will get tangled after a turning the wheel a bit. The only way I have though of is to have a completely separate circuit inside the wheel with a rechargable LiPo battery of a couple of Ah and whenever I touch the wheel, a series of leds would light underneath the wheel(probably IR) and there would be another series of IR receivers mounted on the main body of the controller which would transmit the signal to the microcontroller. However this reminds me of a Rube Goldberg machine and I was hoping that someone might have a simpler way of doing this.
Thanks
Jan Manzoni
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by mr.drumer.boy
How has anyone not pointed the op to extra classics build, I'm on my phone so I can find the link now but I will when I am at my computer.
He has basically done the same as an icon idj but with a bolt and top plate and then same as a normal jog.
I don't get it xD
It would be great if you could post the link
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
i posted 6 photos here, the last two are closeups of the metal that makes contact with the jog wheel as it turns - which i presume is for the touch-sensitive-ness
Yup it is. Thanks again for the pics
Hunter Renslow
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by kostis12345
I just make a circular conductive area with a hole in the middle to let the axis of the wheel through
Exactly! you may have to have gnd's running around your conductive area though to avoid interference. Maybe shield the motor? Hopefully it will just work and you wont have to do too much! Good luck
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by sidetrakd
What are you using for the jog wheel? If your using a capacitive touch sensor it shouldn't need to be attached to the jog wheel.It just has to be under the platter
*Facepalm* Oh yeah! I just make a circular conductive area with a hole in the middle to let the axis of the wheel through(I'm making the wheel using a HDD motor, link at the bottom) and then I mount that to the main body. Thanks a lot


Link for the HDD motor controller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHgAbA7qq0w
Chasidy Heckenbach
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by kostis12345
yep that one

Originally Posted by sidetrakd
What are you using for the jog wheel? If your using a capacitive touch sensor it shouldn't need to be attached to the jog wheel.It just has to be under the platter
true - 99% sure that the metal rotates with the jog wheel on the idj - it's a pretty cheap controller tho - i only paid 100quid for it
Chasidy Heckenbach
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by kostis12345
Yeah, I also though about something similar, I'm worried about noise(electrical) though. Is it easy to take some photos?
Thanks for answering
sure, i'll take a couple later and post on that other thread - someone else has already asked for some just to see what's inside.
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Hi,
I'm on the process of making a midi controller similar to the cdj series. I've figured out how to do everything except for this. I want to add touch sensitivity in my jog wheel but I can't figure out how to do that. I somehow need to connect electronics(a capacitive sensor) inside the wheel to the inside of the controller but I can't figure out how. Cables are ruled out, they will get tangled after a turning the wheel a bit. The only way I have though of is to have a completely separate circuit inside the wheel with a rechargable LiPo battery of a couple of Ah and whenever I touch the wheel, a series of leds would light underneath the wheel(probably IR) and there would be another series of IR receivers mounted on the main body of the controller which would transmit the signal to the microcontroller. However this reminds me of a Rube Goldberg machine and I was hoping that someone might have a simpler way of doing this.
Thanks
Jan Manzoni
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by mr.drumer.boy
How has anyone not pointed the op to extra classics build, I'm on my phone so I can find the link now but I will when I am at my computer.
He has basically done the same as an icon idj but with a bolt and top plate and then same as a normal jog.
I don't get it xD
It would be great if you could post the link
Marva Cupid
13.08.2011
How has anyone not pointed the op to extra classics build, I'm on my phone so I can find the link now but I will when I am at my computer.
He has basically done the same as an icon idj but with a bolt and top plate and then same as a normal jog.
Diogo Dj Dragão
13.08.2011
http://www.djranking s.com/community /sho...1&postcount=15

Here's another reference for you.
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
i posted 6 photos here, the last two are closeups of the metal that makes contact with the jog wheel as it turns - which i presume is for the touch-sensitive-ness
Yup it is. Thanks again for the pics
Chasidy Heckenbach
13.08.2011
i posted 6 photos here, the last two are closeups of the metal that makes contact with the jog wheel as it turns - which i presume is for the touch-sensitive-ness
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Thanks a lot I'll make a new thread documenting my progress when I start
Hunter Renslow
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by kostis12345
I just make a circular conductive area with a hole in the middle to let the axis of the wheel through
Exactly! you may have to have gnd's running around your conductive area though to avoid interference. Maybe shield the motor? Hopefully it will just work and you wont have to do too much! Good luck
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by sidetrakd
What are you using for the jog wheel? If your using a capacitive touch sensor it shouldn't need to be attached to the jog wheel.It just has to be under the platter
*Facepalm* Oh yeah! I just make a circular conductive area with a hole in the middle to let the axis of the wheel through(I'm making the wheel using a HDD motor, link at the bottom) and then I mount that to the main body. Thanks a lot


Link for the HDD motor controller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHgAbA7qq0w
Chasidy Heckenbach
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by kostis12345
yep that one

Originally Posted by sidetrakd
What are you using for the jog wheel? If your using a capacitive touch sensor it shouldn't need to be attached to the jog wheel.It just has to be under the platter
true - 99% sure that the metal rotates with the jog wheel on the idj - it's a pretty cheap controller tho - i only paid 100quid for it
Hunter Renslow
13.08.2011
What are you using for the jog wheel? If your using a capacitive touch sensor it shouldn't need to be attached to the jog wheel.It just has to be under the platter
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Thanks a bunch

This thread right?
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=34480
Chasidy Heckenbach
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by kostis12345
Yeah, I also though about something similar, I'm worried about noise(electrical) though. Is it easy to take some photos?
Thanks for answering
sure, i'll take a couple later and post on that other thread - someone else has already asked for some just to see what's inside.
Jan Manzoni
13.08.2011
Yeah, I also though about something similar, I'm worried about noise(electrical) though. Is it easy to take some photos?
Thanks for answering
Chasidy Heckenbach
13.08.2011
the icon idj i recently picked up just has some metal that goes down to the bottom of the controller and then makes contact with a circular surface there - seems to work ok.

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