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How to "blank out" a MIDI controller??
Posted on: 13.08.2011 by Shaunta Jobs
Hey guys! I'm using a Numark Mixdeck and I am trying to set up my Numark Total control to control effects and other various functions in Traktor Pro (cause the Mixdeck sucks for effect control!). The issue I'm running into is this.. I want to "blank out" the Total Control. I found that controls on the TC will effect the mixdeck (i.e. Cue on TC turns off Key lock on Mixdeck ect.). I tried importing the .tsi file and deleting all MIDI commands and completely re-mapping the TC but it still affects the Mixdeck. I tried adding a Generic MIDI and mapping the TC there but the same thing happens. Is there any solution or am I just stuck with it. Thanks!
robin loo
15.08.2011
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.
^^this
Chasidy Heckenbach
15.08.2011
Originally Posted by mike-oui
I got it figured out. I set the MD to Numark USB Audio Device and set the TC to ALL PORTS. I added the TC in as a Generic Midi. Now I'm mapping away on my blank controller!
why did you set the TC to ALL PORTS!?!?!?!?! each should just use the device they need to be attached to so connect the TC in and out to the TC midi ports.

otherwise you'll have the TC *also* getting messages meant for the other MD
Tatum Ansaldo
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by mike-oui
While searching I noticed mention of dumb mode. Would I be able to set the TC in dumb mode to give me a blank controller?
Dumb mode is found on things like the APC40 with complex interactions between hardware and software, and is used to turn the controller into a simple 'dumb' midi controller to make it compatible with software like traktor. It's not a feature of the total control, it's already 'dumb'.

and...

Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.
This.
Chasidy Heckenbach
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by mike-oui
While searching I noticed mention of dumb mode. Would I be able to set the TC in dumb mode to give me a blank controller?
if by "blank" you mean with no mapping so you can add your own then do what you described in the first post, delete the existing mapping completely, add a new generic midi controller and map what you want, but make sure you select the correct in and out ports for each controller and not the "all ports" setting
Chasidy Heckenbach
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by nem0nic
To be completely safe, you could also change one of the devices MIDI channels. But see above as well. You shouldn't have to do anything else. Make sure NONE of the TSIs have "ALL PORTS" set. Select the specific ports instead.
there's no reason to change the midi channel(s) of either controller so long as the "all ports" isn't being used at all is there? hope not - else i've been giving people bad advice in the past...

Originally Posted by mike-oui
I know both are set to ALL PORTS. I'll take a look at it. Also, how do I change the MIDI channel on a controller? Searching as I speak.
would have to be via some type of controller editor/manager app that came with your controllers.
Leeanna Ayla
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.
This
Shaunta Jobs
13.08.2011		Hey guys! I'm using a Numark Mixdeck and I am trying to set up my Numark Total control to control effects and other various functions in Traktor Pro (cause the Mixdeck sucks for effect control!). The issue I'm running into is this.. I want to "blank out" the Total Control. I found that controls on the TC will effect the mixdeck (i.e. Cue on TC turns off Key lock on Mixdeck ect.). I tried importing the .tsi file and deleting all MIDI commands and completely re-mapping the TC but it still affects the Mixdeck. I tried adding a Generic MIDI and mapping the TC there but the same thing happens. Is there any solution or am I just stuck with it. Thanks!
Tatum Ansaldo
15.08.2011		"all ports" is just dangerous, even if it works now any extra controller you might add down the line is more than likely to screw everything up.
robin loo
15.08.2011
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.
^^this
Chasidy Heckenbach
15.08.2011
Originally Posted by mike-oui
I got it figured out. I set the MD to Numark USB Audio Device and set the TC to ALL PORTS. I added the TC in as a Generic Midi. Now I'm mapping away on my blank controller!
why did you set the TC to ALL PORTS!?!?!?!?! each should just use the device they need to be attached to so connect the TC in and out to the TC midi ports.

otherwise you'll have the TC *also* getting messages meant for the other MD
Shaunta Jobs
14.08.2011		I got it figured out. I set the MD to Numark USB Audio Device and set the TC to ALL PORTS. I added the TC in as a Generic Midi. Now I'm mapping away on my blank controller!
Shaunta Jobs
13.08.2011		Well said fullenglishpint.
Tatum Ansaldo
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by mike-oui
While searching I noticed mention of dumb mode. Would I be able to set the TC in dumb mode to give me a blank controller?
Dumb mode is found on things like the APC40 with complex interactions between hardware and software, and is used to turn the controller into a simple 'dumb' midi controller to make it compatible with software like traktor. It's not a feature of the total control, it's already 'dumb'.

and...

Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.
This.
Chasidy Heckenbach
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by mike-oui
While searching I noticed mention of dumb mode. Would I be able to set the TC in dumb mode to give me a blank controller?
if by "blank" you mean with no mapping so you can add your own then do what you described in the first post, delete the existing mapping completely, add a new generic midi controller and map what you want, but make sure you select the correct in and out ports for each controller and not the "all ports" setting
Shaunta Jobs
14.08.2011		While searching I noticed mention of dumb mode. Would I be able to set the TC in dumb mode to give me a blank controller?
Chasidy Heckenbach
14.08.2011
Originally Posted by nem0nic
To be completely safe, you could also change one of the devices MIDI channels. But see above as well. You shouldn't have to do anything else. Make sure NONE of the TSIs have "ALL PORTS" set. Select the specific ports instead.
there's no reason to change the midi channel(s) of either controller so long as the "all ports" isn't being used at all is there? hope not - else i've been giving people bad advice in the past...

Originally Posted by mike-oui
I know both are set to ALL PORTS. I'll take a look at it. Also, how do I change the MIDI channel on a controller? Searching as I speak.
would have to be via some type of controller editor/manager app that came with your controllers.
Shaunta Jobs
13.08.2011		I know both are set to ALL PORTS. I'll take a look at it. Also, how do I change the MIDI channel on a controller? Searching as I speak.
Diogo Dj Dragão
13.08.2011		To be completely safe, you could also change one of the devices MIDI channels. But see above as well. You shouldn't have to do anything else. Make sure NONE of the TSIs have "ALL PORTS" set. Select the specific ports instead.
Leeanna Ayla
13.08.2011
Originally Posted by weltraumpapst
make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.
This
robin loo
13.08.2011		make sure to assign the in/out ports correctly for each controller in the controller manager.

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