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Posted on: 06.11.2011 by Brain Ferrito
So yesterday my technics sl 1210 needle broke down, it was an old stanton al-D500 mkII. Now looking for a new set of cartridges with styli, can you please recommend me something that is not too cheap and not too expensive, i'm doing a little scratching aswell.

thanks in advance
Brain Ferrito
05.12.2011
so say if i would go with ortofon, is there any cheaper option than shure m44-7? i'm still unsure though, going to get one of them today, can't wait any longer. I actually met up with a guy who sold me a pair of used m44-7 this weekend for
Brain Ferrito
05.12.2011
so say if i would go with ortofon, is there any cheaper option than shure m44-7? i'm still unsure though, going to get one of them today, can't wait any longer. I actually met up with a guy who sold me a pair of used m44-7 this weekend for
Brain Ferrito
05.12.2011
so say if i would go with ortofon, is there any cheaper option than shure m44-7? i'm still unsure though, going to get one of them today, can't wait any longer. I actually met up with a guy who sold me a pair of used m44-7 this weekend for
Brain Ferrito
05.12.2011
so say if i would go with ortofon, is there any cheaper option than shure m44-7? i'm still unsure though, going to get one of them today, can't wait any longer. I actually met up with a guy who sold me a pair of used m44-7 this weekend for
Willa Schwallie
08.12.2011
Originally Posted by D-Kem
For timecode the m44-7's are awesome. Have a pair of ortofon dj s and found them unreliable for timecode. Gorgeous on the wax though so use both dependant on task in hand.

Thats odd. I have ortofon DJ S's and never had an issue with timecode playback.
What exactly do u mean by unreliable? Just curious
Brain Ferrito
05.12.2011
so say if i would go with ortofon, is there any cheaper option than shure m44-7? i'm still unsure though, going to get one of them today, can't wait any longer. I actually met up with a guy who sold me a pair of used m44-7 this weekend for
Yong Aptekar
08.12.2011
Nobody uses whitelables? I've got them and love them. With regular vinyl they sound nice, and with timecode they track beautifully. They pick up the lows pretty good, and sound great with scratching...but I can't scratch.
Willa Schwallie
08.12.2011
Originally Posted by D-Kem
For timecode the m44-7's are awesome. Have a pair of ortofon dj s and found them unreliable for timecode. Gorgeous on the wax though so use both dependant on task in hand.

Thats odd. I have ortofon DJ S's and never had an issue with timecode playback.
What exactly do u mean by unreliable? Just curious
Brain Ferrito
07.12.2011
i got the shure m44g, muuuuch less skipping than the old stanton al-500 mk2 i've got left on the other turntable... couldn't get the m44-7 because someone cracked the needle at the shop and it was the last one. anyway i'm happy with what i've got for now, just like someone said i can change the needle later because its the same cartridge.

how often do you change needles?
Emely Metz
05.12.2011
i currently use Ortofon Concorde Gold with Qbert stylus. Bought used but in mint condition to replaced the aging & looks rusty Stanton AL500mk2 that comes together with my 1210mk2 during purchase.

I dont scratch & barely mix with my turntable since i only have 1 unit of 1210, only used for record listening. Sound quality is really good, the output is loud compared to the old cart/stylus & sometimes line in cd players.
Zetta Radlinger
05.12.2011
ortofon
Brain Ferrito
05.12.2011
so say if i would go with ortofon, is there any cheaper option than shure m44-7? i'm still unsure though, going to get one of them today, can't wait any longer. I actually met up with a guy who sold me a pair of used m44-7 this weekend for
Patience Conliffe
08.11.2011
I have the Ortofon Digitrack, which is made for Timecode vinyls.
Also i scratch with it...great needle!

http://www.recordcase.de/lshop,showd...101429,,,0.htm
Danae Dumler
07.11.2011
What problems were you having with timecode and the ortofons? That is odd since in both applications, the needle is just sending audio information through the system; it should be agnostic about what kind of records you play.
Lauretta Ehrhorn
07.11.2011
For timecode the m44-7's are awesome. Have a pair of ortofon dj s and found them unreliable for timecode. Gorgeous on the wax though so use both dependant on task in hand.
Audrey Pinda
07.11.2011
The most recommended is generally the M44-7. I have buddies who use those and swear by them.

Personally I prefer Concord carts, and so I went with the Ortofon Concord Elektro's. They have been serving me well. (Got a great price on them used on DJcommunity s). I'm no scratcher however.
Lisa Lochotzki
07.11.2011
Oh ... WHAT? But I don't agree, sorry, SC35 is a nail, nonetheless!
Cristian Carmona
07.11.2011
Look at the shure 35c, it's cheaper and it doesn't eat thr vinyl as fast as the 44s
Margene Silhavy
08.11.2011
I've used a lot of concorde carts and have to agree with 'smitten' in that most of them have been awful but Ortofon and higher end Stanton concorde carts are some of the best I've used.
Len Lukawski
08.11.2011
On the subject is concord style needles, I bught a pair of ttxs that had Numark CX1 needles. I did try and give them a go but found them to be utter junk.
Margene Silhavy
08.11.2011
Although I have been using M447's for years if you are looking to really save money then the Stanton 500's would be good, or if you don't mind a concorde design I've found for the price these are great: http://www.htfr.com/p/358307/stanton...ansparent_pair
Len Lukawski
07.11.2011
This is just the stylus, you would need to buy carts too.
Brain Ferrito
07.11.2011
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHURE-N44-...ht_2330wt_1299

so this one is without headshell, thats why its much cheaper right? i dont want to buy some fake cartridges, once happened with memory stick...
Ashley Bernhoft
07.11.2011
the M44G is perfect for everyday use, that is if you use real vinyl. for timecode every needle you can get cheap does the job.
Lina Rawie
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by virmantas
can someone please explain the difference between m44-7 and n44-7, i rarely spin regular vinyl though...
M44-7H = Cart and stylus already mounted to a headshell
M44-7 = Cart and stylus
N44-7 = Replacement stylus

There's also the M44-G which comes with an N44-G stylus. The styli are interchangeable so you can use an N44-7 stylus in an M44-G cart and vice versa. The difference between the two is basically that the N44-G sounds a bit better, but doesn't hold the record quite as well.
Brain Ferrito
07.11.2011
can someone please explain the difference between m44-7 and n44-7, i rarely spin regular vinyl though...
Lina Rawie
06.11.2011
I use the Shure M44-7. You don't need to buy the "H" model cos that's an M44-7 that's pre-fitted to a headshell which only adds to the cost, although it's easier to fit as you just screw it to the end of the tonearm and you're done.

For use with a DVS, I don't believe there's any better cart than the 44-7 because the price is reasonable, the output is high/solid, they're about as skip-resistant as carts get and the needles last a decent length of time before needing to be replaced. There's certainly better sounding cartridges if you're spinning regular vinyl though.
Brunilda Kora
06.11.2011
I've always used Stanton 500 (MKII) carts, with D5100 ALII needles. Never any problems - especially with scratching.

Brain Ferrito
07.11.2011
is there any cheaper good options out there?
Len Lukawski
06.11.2011
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