Taking an S4 apart

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Taking an S4 apart
Posted on: 27.09.2011 by Joya Pomerinke
Hi!

I'm wondering is anyone has taken an NI S4 apart?

Guide, pictures. What not to do?
What is in there? 200 awesome smurfs?
Joya Pomerinke
22.10.2011
Originally Posted by bigbeatzz
Thanks for taking pics for us! Question: Is there enough room in between the top plastic and the pcb underneath to fit an air can straw? I wonder if this would help to clean out the tiny buttons on the effect units that can sometimes get stuck.
There is around 0.5 cm space. Haven't measured it though. But yes a straw from a compressed air can can get in there

I will charge my camera and take some more shots when i get back at our warehouse thursday.
Lang Abriel
21.10.2011
Originally Posted by ksandvik
It's an art form to make PCB layout with close to zero electrical noise issues... So don't just something based on looks -- there might be a reason for it.
Possibly strength but that's alot of wasted cost...and i know its an artform, but I would assume military grade PCBs have higher quality testing than the kontrol s4...if I remember correctly, it was a few years ago though
Celine Surico
20.10.2011
Originally Posted by Rukks
This will help in my project....TONS of wasted pcb...what were they believeing? Is the piece of pcb in the bottom of the picture posted removable/how much room is between the two layers of circuit board.
It's an art form to make PCB layout with close to zero electrical noise issues... So don't just something based on looks -- there might be a reason for it.
Joya Pomerinke
27.09.2011		Hi!

I'm wondering is anyone has taken an NI S4 apart?

Guide, pictures. What not to do?
What is in there? 200 awesome smurfs?
Joya Pomerinke
14.12.2011		HI GUYS

Take a look at my S4 set on Flickr.. I just found some more pictures from the assembly..

[ame="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68884026@N06/sets/72157627812068451/"]S4 - a set on Flickr[/ame]
Len Lukawski
18.11.2011		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vXoo...&feature=feedu
Lang Abriel
23.10.2011		Im a little bummed that there isn't more free space...I was planning on making my new cad model really slim, thought it would be a nice take on dj gear , almost like the thickness of a macbook, looks like it would be near impossible though since the pots take up quite a bit of room
Joya Pomerinke
22.10.2011
Originally Posted by bigbeatzz
Thanks for taking pics for us! Question: Is there enough room in between the top plastic and the pcb underneath to fit an air can straw? I wonder if this would help to clean out the tiny buttons on the effect units that can sometimes get stuck.
There is around 0.5 cm space. Haven't measured it though. But yes a straw from a compressed air can can get in there

I will charge my camera and take some more shots when i get back at our warehouse thursday.
Karolis Petrauskas
21.10.2011		Thanks for taking pics for us! Question: Is there enough room in between the top plastic and the pcb underneath to fit an air can straw? I wonder if this would help to clean out the tiny buttons on the effect units that can sometimes get stuck.
Lang Abriel
21.10.2011		Zster, if you just spilt beer on it then you should try to take it apart further and bake the PCB...theres alot of tutorials online about it and its saved multiple laptop motherboards.

I mean theres no hurt in trying.
Lang Abriel
21.10.2011
Originally Posted by ksandvik
It's an art form to make PCB layout with close to zero electrical noise issues... So don't just something based on looks -- there might be a reason for it.
Possibly strength but that's alot of wasted cost...and i know its an artform, but I would assume military grade PCBs have higher quality testing than the kontrol s4...if I remember correctly, it was a few years ago though
Joya Pomerinke
21.10.2011		There is maybe 1cm between the two layers of pcb.

As you can see there is plenty of room for innofader erc..
Joya Pomerinke
21.10.2011		I'll shoot some pictures of the front also before i put this together again.

You cant see the nuts as they are underneath the frontplate/bezel. To acces them you have to pry the bezel off with a large blade or something. It is glued heavily to the case
Bethel Himmelein
21.10.2011		Great pictures. However, I cannot see that the knobs/encoders are mounted with screw nuts like they are on the K2. The pots on my S2/S4 are not fixed to the top plate and they are wobbly.
Celine Surico
20.10.2011
Originally Posted by Rukks
This will help in my project....TONS of wasted pcb...what were they believeing? Is the piece of pcb in the bottom of the picture posted removable/how much room is between the two layers of circuit board.
It's an art form to make PCB layout with close to zero electrical noise issues... So don't just something based on looks -- there might be a reason for it.
Joya Pomerinke
20.10.2011		I am not really sure what you mean.
The top PCB in the "sample" shot is the control pcb. You can't alter that one.
Lang Abriel
20.10.2011		This will help in my project....TONS of wasted pcb...what were they believeing? Is the piece of pcb in the bottom of the picture posted removable/how much room is between the two layers of circuit board.
Joya Pomerinke
20.10.2011		Well...

Anything you guys want to know?
The headphone pcb has to be removed vertical as it is slotted in the case.
To take the PCB's out of the case you have to peel off the front bezels as the important knobs is bolted to the casing with nuts.
The pictures was taken to keep track of where the wires goes.
We talked about that you could be creative with a dremel and remove the front plate around the shaft. You need a hole around 12-13 mm to release the nut. The nut is 11mm.
ALL knobs are bolted - making the S4 knobs just as sturdy as the A&H K2 was praised for.

This S4 is long gone - it had a few drinks to many



[ame="http://www.flickr.com/photos/68884026@N06/sets/72157627812068451/"]S4 - a set on Flickr[/ame]
Nick Ross
27.09.2011		Goddamnit Karlos...were there any smurfs?!?!

Answer the man's question.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
27.09.2011		I have but i didnt take pics.
Its pretty crammed in there, very little to see unless you take the main board out.

The one i took apart was a pre-production beta model so it didnt matter about the warranty but ive got a full production model now so i aint taking this apart.

Not very helpful sorry :-)

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