Looks like the Midifighter has some competition. |
Clinton Voran
31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zalgo
First off, the parts are not great on those, it's like a poor man's Hori RAP. Secondly, that thing is the size of a Rane 57 plus a 1200 (might actually be closer to a 57 and TWO 1200s) so, apart from your bedroom, where the heck are you going to able to plop that thing down and play a set at? |
Alla Bluemke
30.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Whats different about this joystick vs all the oldskool joysticks that have been out for years?
Does it send midi or something?
i was believeing the same thing. I mean that thing is bigger then some controller out in the market. how on earth could that be much more useful? |
Chasidy Heckenbach
30.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Thnx for this.. Im gonna check it out
Basically, what i have in my head is this:
- i take traktor ouput like a) trackend warning b) phase meter and port them to someplace on my pc (ive managed to get them onto a lemur template and some other midi apps)
- then this 'mystical app' that i have in mind would read that data and pipe it out to an lcd screen that is attached to my mouse.
cool - sounds interestng. the lcd screen would be 'attached' to your mouse tho?
So not really a doc to interface with but maybe im not understanding what a doc is...
Over last year, ive tried to dabble in understanding midi and how things work with its data so i seem to always be looking for little tasks like this that i can use as learning excercises..
by 'doc' i just meant the specification for the specific lcd screen u were going to use - that would define some kind of comms protocol for how to get data displayed on it etc. |
Cliff Lohman
30.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
nothing and nope
arduino etc is for building custom devices. glovepie can translate between hid and midi, i have some hid code for midimasher tho still geared towards midi translation.
i've never tried to send data to a hid device via glovepie (or my own code) and not sure it has that functionality as is geared around input devices.
the lib i'm using in midimasher is hidapi so might be a good starting point http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/
edit: midimasher can ofc receive/decode midi messages and if i gave lua (scripting language) access to the hidapi code in midimasher then you should be able to call that to send messages to a hid lcd display device. otherwise you could bolt something like the RtMidi lib and libapi and create a custom app. some midimasher lua scripting would probably be simpler tho. the hid format is vendor/devicetype specific - you have any docs on the screen you want to interface with?
Thnx for this.. Im gonna check it out
Basically, what i have in my head is this:
- i take traktor ouput like a) trackend warning b) phase meter and port them to someplace on my pc (ive managed to get them onto a lemur template and some other midi apps)
- then this 'mystical app' that i have in mind would read that data and pipe it out to an lcd screen that is attached to my mouse.
So not really a doc to interface with but maybe im not understanding what a doc is...
Over last year, ive tried to dabble in understanding midi and how things work with its data so i seem to always be looking for little tasks like this that i can use as learning excercises.. |
Chasidy Heckenbach
29.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Whats different about this joystick vs all the oldskool joysticks that have been out for years?
Does it send midi or something?
nothing and nope
Originally Posted by kevz718
Hey zestoi.. Ive been wondering about these middleman softwares lately.. I dont have much programming skill.. Is theres something i can look into to learn about getting midi messages sent to hid devices. Im particularly interested in lcd screen messages.. Ive heard glovepie, midimasher, arduino, freeduino, etc but im confused.. What might be easiest one for me to start messing with to learn more?
arduino etc is for building custom devices. glovepie can translate between hid and midi, i have some hid code for midimasher tho still geared towards midi translation.
i've never tried to send data to a hid device via glovepie (or my own code) and not sure it has that functionality as is geared around input devices.
the lib i'm using in midimasher is hidapi so might be a good starting point http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/
edit: midimasher can ofc receive/decode midi messages and if i gave lua (scripting language) access to the hidapi code in midimasher then you should be able to call that to send messages to a hid lcd display device. otherwise you could bolt something like the RtMidi lib and libapi and create a custom app. some midimasher lua scripting would probably be simpler tho. the hid format is vendor/devicetype specific - you have any docs on the screen you want to interface with? |
Cliff Lohman
29.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
not really competition for the midifighter since it was stuff like this that was the inspiration for the midifighter in the first place
i love my midifighter due to it's compact size and everything that can be done with the builtin firmware.
having said that u can take an arcade controller like that one and use some middleware software like glovepie or midimasher (when i release my hid code) to convert the hid to midi and add in whatever logic u need.
i'm definately not getting rid of my midifighter any time soon tho - and the classic ones can be bought quite cheaply second hand.
Hey zestoi.. Ive been wondering about these middleman softwares lately.. I dont have much programming skill.. Is theres something i can look into to learn about getting midi messages sent to hid devices. Im particularly interested in lcd screen messages.. Ive heard glovepie, midimasher, arduino, freeduino, etc but im confused.. What might be easiest one for me to start messing with to learn more? |
Chasidy Heckenbach
29.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zalgo
not really competition for the midifighter since it was stuff like this that was the inspiration for the midifighter in the first place
i love my midifighter due to it's compact size and everything that can be done with the builtin firmware.
having said that u can take an arcade controller like that one and use some middleware software like glovepie or midimasher (when i release my hid code) to convert the hid to midi and add in whatever logic u need.
i'm definately not getting rid of my midifighter any time soon tho - and the classic ones can be bought quite cheaply second hand. |
Elma Kersting
28.01.2012 | This is a USB controlled home arcade-quality joystick and pushbutton combo. If someone could make a midi map for this, this would be a fantastic controller.
http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-...dual-joystick/ |
Clinton Voran
31.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zalgo
First off, the parts are not great on those, it's like a poor man's Hori RAP. Secondly, that thing is the size of a Rane 57 plus a 1200 (might actually be closer to a 57 and TWO 1200s) so, apart from your bedroom, where the heck are you going to able to plop that thing down and play a set at? |
Alla Bluemke
30.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Whats different about this joystick vs all the oldskool joysticks that have been out for years?
Does it send midi or something?
i was believeing the same thing. I mean that thing is bigger then some controller out in the market. how on earth could that be much more useful? |
Chasidy Heckenbach
30.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Thnx for this.. Im gonna check it out
Basically, what i have in my head is this:
- i take traktor ouput like a) trackend warning b) phase meter and port them to someplace on my pc (ive managed to get them onto a lemur template and some other midi apps)
- then this 'mystical app' that i have in mind would read that data and pipe it out to an lcd screen that is attached to my mouse.
cool - sounds interestng. the lcd screen would be 'attached' to your mouse tho?
So not really a doc to interface with but maybe im not understanding what a doc is...
Over last year, ive tried to dabble in understanding midi and how things work with its data so i seem to always be looking for little tasks like this that i can use as learning excercises..
by 'doc' i just meant the specification for the specific lcd screen u were going to use - that would define some kind of comms protocol for how to get data displayed on it etc. |
Cliff Lohman
30.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
nothing and nope
arduino etc is for building custom devices. glovepie can translate between hid and midi, i have some hid code for midimasher tho still geared towards midi translation.
i've never tried to send data to a hid device via glovepie (or my own code) and not sure it has that functionality as is geared around input devices.
the lib i'm using in midimasher is hidapi so might be a good starting point http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/
edit: midimasher can ofc receive/decode midi messages and if i gave lua (scripting language) access to the hidapi code in midimasher then you should be able to call that to send messages to a hid lcd display device. otherwise you could bolt something like the RtMidi lib and libapi and create a custom app. some midimasher lua scripting would probably be simpler tho. the hid format is vendor/devicetype specific - you have any docs on the screen you want to interface with?
Thnx for this.. Im gonna check it out
Basically, what i have in my head is this:
- i take traktor ouput like a) trackend warning b) phase meter and port them to someplace on my pc (ive managed to get them onto a lemur template and some other midi apps)
- then this 'mystical app' that i have in mind would read that data and pipe it out to an lcd screen that is attached to my mouse.
So not really a doc to interface with but maybe im not understanding what a doc is...
Over last year, ive tried to dabble in understanding midi and how things work with its data so i seem to always be looking for little tasks like this that i can use as learning excercises.. |
Chasidy Heckenbach
29.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by kevz718
Whats different about this joystick vs all the oldskool joysticks that have been out for years?
Does it send midi or something?
nothing and nope
Originally Posted by kevz718
Hey zestoi.. Ive been wondering about these middleman softwares lately.. I dont have much programming skill.. Is theres something i can look into to learn about getting midi messages sent to hid devices. Im particularly interested in lcd screen messages.. Ive heard glovepie, midimasher, arduino, freeduino, etc but im confused.. What might be easiest one for me to start messing with to learn more?
arduino etc is for building custom devices. glovepie can translate between hid and midi, i have some hid code for midimasher tho still geared towards midi translation.
i've never tried to send data to a hid device via glovepie (or my own code) and not sure it has that functionality as is geared around input devices.
the lib i'm using in midimasher is hidapi so might be a good starting point http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/
edit: midimasher can ofc receive/decode midi messages and if i gave lua (scripting language) access to the hidapi code in midimasher then you should be able to call that to send messages to a hid lcd display device. otherwise you could bolt something like the RtMidi lib and libapi and create a custom app. some midimasher lua scripting would probably be simpler tho. the hid format is vendor/devicetype specific - you have any docs on the screen you want to interface with? |
Cliff Lohman
29.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by zestoi
not really competition for the midifighter since it was stuff like this that was the inspiration for the midifighter in the first place
i love my midifighter due to it's compact size and everything that can be done with the builtin firmware.
having said that u can take an arcade controller like that one and use some middleware software like glovepie or midimasher (when i release my hid code) to convert the hid to midi and add in whatever logic u need.
i'm definately not getting rid of my midifighter any time soon tho - and the classic ones can be bought quite cheaply second hand.
Hey zestoi.. Ive been wondering about these middleman softwares lately.. I dont have much programming skill.. Is theres something i can look into to learn about getting midi messages sent to hid devices. Im particularly interested in lcd screen messages.. Ive heard glovepie, midimasher, arduino, freeduino, etc but im confused.. What might be easiest one for me to start messing with to learn more? |
Cliff Lohman
29.01.2012 | Whats different about this joystick vs all the oldskool joysticks that have been out for years?
Does it send midi or something? |
Chasidy Heckenbach
29.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zalgo
not really competition for the midifighter since it was stuff like this that was the inspiration for the midifighter in the first place
i love my midifighter due to it's compact size and everything that can be done with the builtin firmware.
having said that u can take an arcade controller like that one and use some middleware software like glovepie or midimasher (when i release my hid code) to convert the hid to midi and add in whatever logic u need.
i'm definately not getting rid of my midifighter any time soon tho - and the classic ones can be bought quite cheaply second hand. |
