Touchstrip LED Pitch Fader

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Touchstrip LED Pitch Fader
Posted on: 01.04.2012 by Jimmy Auch
Many years ago, as a little bitty bedroom dj, I got my first taste of using hot cues when I bought a technics sl-dz1200, and soon after discovered midi; resulting in awesome visions of how gear could be...

Finally, hardware manufacturers are closing the gaps between dreams and reality... analog and digital... turntablism and controllerism.

But one thing that bugs me about decks that toggle between controlling 2 songs is that the pitch fader stays where you put it while setting song A's bpm when you toggle to song B. One workaround for this would be motorized faders, right? Yeah, maybe not...

What if we could use something like the NS7's Stripsearch or Twitch's touchstrip as pitch fader?? With the LED's under neath the touch sensitive strip, song A's pitch "fader" position will be remembered when toggled to song B and back.

Anyone with an iphone can tell you that a touchscreen isnt always capable of pinpoint action... but what if there was an encoder knob on the side of the touch strip? This would let you fine tune the tempo to your hearts most precise desire!

touch strip.jpg

Thoughts? Comments?
Carey Leid
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
true - tho i've also tried using them to control effects units, just one effect unit each. no moving parts mean they do function well tho for multiple layers with led's reset to where u were last on that layer. cool being so small and light as well. easy to add them to any other setup, tho all i have atm are small+modular (and cheap!) controllers...
yea, definitely. For their size, portability, price, and capability, they are one of the most cost-effective additions to a set-up on the market.
Carey Leid
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
they are very cool - and excellent midi implementation. i just have two scs.3d's, no scs.3m. picked them both up for about 50gbp each i believe 2nd hand, tho one was basically brand new and the other as good as.

with the 3 colours of leds, 6 layer buttons and three different modes for the main area (never mind all the various led feedback patterns u can use) they're just so bloody flexible.

the downside of that is that i don't use them as much as i should as i haven't come up with the best way of using them yet i have code in midimasher that handles all the layers and led patterns so i don't use darouter. also means i have full control over what modes i want to use any layer for and how many layers i want... i did believe of having a 10 layer map using the 6 buttons at the top plus the 4 around the circle area but that would be a bit insane...
That was the one downside to me, it seemed like 1-step too many to get the desired function; having to always switch from mode to mode.
Chasidy Heckenbach
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by kamjongill
yea, the SCS3 has incredible capability for such a small controller and the touch is extremely accurate and responsive. I just sold my complete :/ needed some extra $
they are very cool - and excellent midi implementation. i just have two scs.3d's, no scs.3m. picked them both up for about 50gbp each i believe 2nd hand, tho one was basically brand new and the other as good as.

with the 3 colours of leds, 6 layer buttons and three different modes for the main area (never mind all the various led feedback patterns u can use) they're just so bloody flexible.

the downside of that is that i don't use them as much as i should as i haven't come up with the best way of using them yet i have code in midimasher that handles all the layers and led patterns so i don't use darouter. also means i have full control over what modes i want to use any layer for and how many layers i want... i did believe of having a 10 layer map using the 6 buttons at the top plus the 4 around the circle area but that would be a bit insane...
Carey Leid
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
nothing new sure... which is why i mentioned my scs.3d's. i'm not sure why they never became more popular really. i bought both of mine 2nd hand very cheaply...
yea, the SCS3 has incredible capability for such a small controller and the touch is extremely accurate and responsive. I just sold my complete :/ needed some extra $
Jimmy Auch
01.04.2012
Many years ago, as a little bitty bedroom dj, I got my first taste of using hot cues when I bought a technics sl-dz1200, and soon after discovered midi; resulting in awesome visions of how gear could be...

Finally, hardware manufacturers are closing the gaps between dreams and reality... analog and digital... turntablism and controllerism.

But one thing that bugs me about decks that toggle between controlling 2 songs is that the pitch fader stays where you put it while setting song A's bpm when you toggle to song B. One workaround for this would be motorized faders, right? Yeah, maybe not...

What if we could use something like the NS7's Stripsearch or Twitch's touchstrip as pitch fader?? With the LED's under neath the touch sensitive strip, song A's pitch "fader" position will be remembered when toggled to song B and back.

Anyone with an iphone can tell you that a touchscreen isnt always capable of pinpoint action... but what if there was an encoder knob on the side of the touch strip? This would let you fine tune the tempo to your hearts most precise desire!

touch strip.jpg

Thoughts? Comments?
Carey Leid
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
true - tho i've also tried using them to control effects units, just one effect unit each. no moving parts mean they do function well tho for multiple layers with led's reset to where u were last on that layer. cool being so small and light as well. easy to add them to any other setup, tho all i have atm are small+modular (and cheap!) controllers...
yea, definitely. For their size, portability, price, and capability, they are one of the most cost-effective additions to a set-up on the market.
Chasidy Heckenbach
02.04.2012
true - tho i've also tried using them to control effects units, just one effect unit each. no moving parts mean they do function well tho for multiple layers with led's reset to where u were last on that layer. cool being so small and light as well. easy to add them to any other setup, tho all i have atm are small+modular (and cheap!) controllers...
Carey Leid
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
they are very cool - and excellent midi implementation. i just have two scs.3d's, no scs.3m. picked them both up for about 50gbp each i believe 2nd hand, tho one was basically brand new and the other as good as.

with the 3 colours of leds, 6 layer buttons and three different modes for the main area (never mind all the various led feedback patterns u can use) they're just so bloody flexible.

the downside of that is that i don't use them as much as i should as i haven't come up with the best way of using them yet i have code in midimasher that handles all the layers and led patterns so i don't use darouter. also means i have full control over what modes i want to use any layer for and how many layers i want... i did believe of having a 10 layer map using the 6 buttons at the top plus the 4 around the circle area but that would be a bit insane...
That was the one downside to me, it seemed like 1-step too many to get the desired function; having to always switch from mode to mode.
Chasidy Heckenbach
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by kamjongill
yea, the SCS3 has incredible capability for such a small controller and the touch is extremely accurate and responsive. I just sold my complete :/ needed some extra $
they are very cool - and excellent midi implementation. i just have two scs.3d's, no scs.3m. picked them both up for about 50gbp each i believe 2nd hand, tho one was basically brand new and the other as good as.

with the 3 colours of leds, 6 layer buttons and three different modes for the main area (never mind all the various led feedback patterns u can use) they're just so bloody flexible.

the downside of that is that i don't use them as much as i should as i haven't come up with the best way of using them yet i have code in midimasher that handles all the layers and led patterns so i don't use darouter. also means i have full control over what modes i want to use any layer for and how many layers i want... i did believe of having a 10 layer map using the 6 buttons at the top plus the 4 around the circle area but that would be a bit insane...
Carey Leid
02.04.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
nothing new sure... which is why i mentioned my scs.3d's. i'm not sure why they never became more popular really. i bought both of mine 2nd hand very cheaply...
yea, the SCS3 has incredible capability for such a small controller and the touch is extremely accurate and responsive. I just sold my complete :/ needed some extra $
Elfriede Osbourne
02.04.2012
Check out my topic with new Twitch Concept in General community , where i used touchstrips for pitch faders
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.04.2012
nothing new sure... which is why i mentioned my scs.3d's. i'm not sure why they never became more popular really. i bought both of mine 2nd hand very cheaply...
Diogo Dj Dragão
01.04.2012
It's a great idea, but not a new one. The original Otus has a touch strip for pitch, as does the SCS.3d.
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.04.2012
i love the look of the stanton scs1.d's. i'd love a motorized platter for some of that old school feel...

on the issue tho just having a single touch strip like the vmeter (or from my stanton scs3d's) is plenty...

u could use it in absolute mode for big changes to get the basic ballpark, and then press some toggle modifier that then sends out relative "adjustment" messages to that original absolute value which would work fine if using a 14bit message like pitchbend.

must admit having an actual motorised pitch fader is cool tho... seemed quite noisy tho from some vids i had seen. a physical fader instead of a touch strip would feel much more natural to use.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
01.04.2012
stanton scs.1d

they have had a massive price cut recently so you can pick a pair of them up for around $700 with the mixer, they have dual layers with motorized pitch faders and direct drive motors... apparently like everything else it has poor intigration with traktor, It is now sold with vdj which has perfect intigration.

Elfriede Osbourne
01.04.2012
Hi, this is good idea, i used it in my twitch upgrade concept http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=49487

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