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Traktor 2.5 and APC40 Posted on: 14.03.2012 by Noelia Martig How many of you are excited about the upcoming update and the fact that the APC40 gonna be the perfect Midi controller for it. It will be like 2 F1 in 1. Oo
Lilliana Perris 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by pilmat Love it! Reminds me of drum lessons when the teacher takes away all you "toys", leaving you a snare, kick, tom, hats and a ride. Then he says, "get funky on the that, that's all you need." Stripped down to the basics +100000 I agree! I am not into the hype of having to have the latest controller. Clearly the companies have cottoned onto this and is why we these types of updates now. Its not JUST software they selling now, its their hardware too. Seems this focus has changed. To keep the momentum going of their controller sales, they make sure that the software can only be FULLY controlled with said hardware. BALLS! I understand why they doing it....it just SUCKS. I 'got it' after I bought the VCI100 and realized...this will not cover my expansion in future. I always tell newbs that they will have a first round of purchase that they will sell and then get what they really need. The older crew get this and have thought it over really carefully and aligned themselves and their gear to be able to last a good couple years and that they will be able to manipulate the midi maps to work with their setups. The newer younger crowd seem to be gripped by the hype of the UPDATE (Software and Hardware) will allow them to do these NEW things and that will get them to be badass DJ's easily and quickly. This is SOO not the case. I got the APC80, knowing that I will be able to use it for a while and will be able to emulate a lot of the controller options out there. So sad that I am being proved wrong! BUUUUT, then again...I have wanted VST integration into Traktor, but would I use it? Probably not.... I still mix the same way I always have, but now can do it easily and have a few added tricks up my sleeve due to using software. But that really is it! Its lust I guess, for new things.
Chasidy Heckenbach 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by sarasin Same... I wonder if the upgrade without the F1 will be any good? Sure they will fix some things etc....Hope it is better.... i don't suppose 2.5 will be much of a biggie if you don't have an F1... that has to be it's main/new feature. i wish vdj8 or "the one" was already out so i could take apply pissedoffness to trying out some other software
Lilliana Perris 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by padi_04 +1 on this, and i'm a massive fanboy of it. Same... I wonder if the upgrade without the F1 will be any good? Sure they will fix some things etc....Hope it is better....
Corine Kasman 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by quality control Use what you got and don't get sucked into the hype of new gear every 3 months. I am believeing of spending extra now, picking up some Denon DN-S3700's and a good mixer with effects. Maybe a DN-X1600 and going old school. This controller business is killing me. Love it! Reminds me of drum lessons when the teacher takes away all you "toys", leaving you a snare, kick, tom, hats and a ride. Then he says, "get funky on the that, that's all you need." Stripped down to the basics
Nedra Fresneda 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by quality control To tell you the truth, I am starting to shy away from Traktor more and more. They seem to be a little too money hungry for my liking and the proprietary hardware makes me sad panda. +1 on this, and i'm a massive fanboy of it.
Inger Glubka 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by leolodreamland I'm so excited... I was going make this post if no-one else had done it already... no you don't have seven shades on the apc40 but you have three shades blinking or not which makes six and totally off equals seven. there's perfectly enough knobs and buttons to emulate the f1 times two and still enough left over for fx 3 and 4 maybe... if you've seen what's possible with the collision mapping it's certainly possible... Thanks for spreading the word. YOU"RE THE MAN!!!
Lilliana Perris 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by pilmat Love it! Reminds me of drum lessons when the teacher takes away all you "toys", leaving you a snare, kick, tom, hats and a ride. Then he says, "get funky on the that, that's all you need." Stripped down to the basics +100000 I agree! I am not into the hype of having to have the latest controller. Clearly the companies have cottoned onto this and is why we these types of updates now. Its not JUST software they selling now, its their hardware too. Seems this focus has changed. To keep the momentum going of their controller sales, they make sure that the software can only be FULLY controlled with said hardware. BALLS! I understand why they doing it....it just SUCKS. I 'got it' after I bought the VCI100 and realized...this will not cover my expansion in future. I always tell newbs that they will have a first round of purchase that they will sell and then get what they really need. The older crew get this and have thought it over really carefully and aligned themselves and their gear to be able to last a good couple years and that they will be able to manipulate the midi maps to work with their setups. The newer younger crowd seem to be gripped by the hype of the UPDATE (Software and Hardware) will allow them to do these NEW things and that will get them to be badass DJ's easily and quickly. This is SOO not the case. I got the APC80, knowing that I will be able to use it for a while and will be able to emulate a lot of the controller options out there. So sad that I am being proved wrong! BUUUUT, then again...I have wanted VST integration into Traktor, but would I use it? Probably not.... I still mix the same way I always have, but now can do it easily and have a few added tricks up my sleeve due to using software. But that really is it! Its lust I guess, for new things.
Chasidy Heckenbach 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by sarasin Same... I wonder if the upgrade without the F1 will be any good? Sure they will fix some things etc....Hope it is better.... i don't suppose 2.5 will be much of a biggie if you don't have an F1... that has to be it's main/new feature. i wish vdj8 or "the one" was already out so i could take apply pissedoffness to trying out some other software
Lilliana Perris 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by padi_04 +1 on this, and i'm a massive fanboy of it. Same... I wonder if the upgrade without the F1 will be any good? Sure they will fix some things etc....Hope it is better....
Corine Kasman 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by quality control Use what you got and don't get sucked into the hype of new gear every 3 months. I am believeing of spending extra now, picking up some Denon DN-S3700's and a good mixer with effects. Maybe a DN-X1600 and going old school. This controller business is killing me. Love it! Reminds me of drum lessons when the teacher takes away all you "toys", leaving you a snare, kick, tom, hats and a ride. Then he says, "get funky on the that, that's all you need." Stripped down to the basics
Horacio Stranathan 26.04.2012	Use what you got and don't get sucked into the hype of new gear every 3 months. I am believeing of spending extra now, picking up some Denon DN-S3700's and a good mixer with effects. Maybe a DN-X1600 and going old school. This controller business is killing me.
Nedra Fresneda 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by quality control To tell you the truth, I am starting to shy away from Traktor more and more. They seem to be a little too money hungry for my liking and the proprietary hardware makes me sad panda. +1 on this, and i'm a massive fanboy of it.
Horacio Stranathan 26.04.2012	I thought it was too good to be true. I read that post a couple of days ago and realized myself that why would NI make all the functions mappable to the general public while trying to sell a new hardware option. Its like anything really, a smart business owner does not release all his/her secrets to the public so they can modify any hardware they want for use with the new software. In any event, it was a nice thought while it lasted and although the upgrade to 2.5 is free, to get the real operational use out of a hardware solution you are going to have to fork out for an F1. Boo-urns! To tell you the truth, I am starting to shy away from Traktor more and more. They seem to be a little too money hungry for my liking and the proprietary hardware makes me sad panda.
Lilliana Perris 26.04.2012	Yep...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Nedra Fresneda 26.04.2012	Update on the subject http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=51034
Inger Glubka 26.04.2012	Originally Posted by leolodreamland I'm so excited... I was going make this post if no-one else had done it already... no you don't have seven shades on the apc40 but you have three shades blinking or not which makes six and totally off equals seven. there's perfectly enough knobs and buttons to emulate the f1 times two and still enough left over for fx 3 and 4 maybe... if you've seen what's possible with the collision mapping it's certainly possible... Thanks for spreading the word. YOU"RE THE MAN!!!
Inger Glubka 26.04.2012	Hey everybody! its appears that great minds believe alike! i was believeing the very same thing! i am planning to have have the APC40 function as two F1 controllers. I am believeing about designing it to require at least a standard 2 deck mixer to go with it.(this will make the tsi smaller and less strenuous on the cpu) I already know this is gonna get IN-TENSE!!! i haven't decided what to call it yet though.... how about........ the Sidecar mapping? ...idk If you don't believe it can be done, check out my previous mapping. It might shed some light on the situation... http://maps.djranking s.com/mappings/59
Chasidy Heckenbach 24.03.2012	Originally Posted by padi_04 Not saying the commands will be only available with the F1, just the tsi itself might not be editable hope it's fully mappable anyway just thought of one more thing... something i find very useful on the launchpad is having "lo" and "hi" versions of each color. lo for layout and hi when u press. i guess that isn't an option with the K2 either? have to hope that some of these things might make it into a future firmware. edit: ass ass... wrong thread again ignore my k2 comments
Nedra Fresneda 24.03.2012	Not saying the commands will be only available with the F1, just the tsi itself might not be editable
Chasidy Heckenbach 24.03.2012	Originally Posted by padi_04 I'm starting to believe NI will keep moving in the direction of a really tight but closed map (like the S4) and keep NHL and MIDI for us tinkerers. It isn't a bad approach, just sucks pretty badly when you have to sacrifice functionality in order to tweak a few things. i really hope they at least make all the stuff mappable that we'd need access to to emulate what the F1 does. they'd be moderately insane not to - as a high % of traktor users won't ever own any NI hardware. That's what I'm aiming for with the K2 . Not a carbon copy of course, some extra stuff going on like I did with the X1. good plan i still really want a K2 for decent/basic controls over 4 channels, transport/eq/levels/kills etc, so in reality i'm not too fussed about the color issues and probably won't be using any latching layers. but i'd like to be able to do something as simple as use the 4x4 grid for play/cue/sync/something for the 4 channels and have each button (row) a different color. would also have been nice to (easily) be able to have that as the default layer and just have those pads latch to a different one with a different combination of colors on that layer. then it's still obvious which layer i'd be on due to the different pattern of colors - but seems the only real way to achieve that is using a single layer in the K2 and do the layer+color stuff directly in traktor or midimasher. edit: thought i was on the K2 thread then - hence all the K2 comments
Nedra Fresneda 24.03.2012	Originally Posted by zestoi i also bet a lot of the logic for what the F1 does is in it's firmware so it will take a mega bit of mapping to get close to how the F1 works out of the box.. I'm starting to believe NI will keep moving in the direction of a really tight but closed map (like the S4) and keep NHL and MIDI for us tinkerers. It isn't a bad approach, just sucks pretty badly when you have to sacrifice functionality in order to tweak a few things. Wonder if they will update de S4 map to accomodate some of the changes since it's still their flagship all in one or if they will simply release a new version of it. It's still a "young" controller but at the pace these things are going It doesn't sound that insane (little slide off topic ) Originally Posted by zestoi ...emulate the two F1's almost perfectly. just with the limitation of led colors. That's what I'm aiming for with the K2 . Not a carbon copy of course, some extra stuff going on like I did with the X1.
Chasidy Heckenbach 24.03.2012	the apc40 isn't rgb for starters. i also bet a lot of the logic for what the F1 does is in it's firmware so it will take a mega bit of mapping to get close to how the F1 works out of the box.. but... i do believe that either a launchpad+nanokontrol or apc40 with some cunning middleware software should be able to emulate the two F1's almost perfectly. just with the limitation of led colors.
Denise Goepel 23.03.2012	I'm so excited... I was going make this post if no-one else had done it already... no you don't have seven shades on the apc40 but you have three shades blinking or not which makes six and totally off equals seven. there's perfectly enough knobs and buttons to emulate the f1 times two and still enough left over for fx 3 and 4 maybe... if you've seen what's possible with the collision mapping it's certainly possible...
Brock Ricapito 16.03.2012	the Livid CNTL:R might be even better, because to my knowledge it has more flexibility with the LED colours. the APC40 only has 3 colours and 7 settings regarding LED output in Traktor. Also the OHM:RGB might be a good one because of the different colours. It will likely be a evening mare to map the out-putting of the different LED shades.
Leeanna Ayla 15.03.2012	Originally Posted by hrtbrkd How many of you are excited about the upcoming update and the fact that the APC40 gonna be the perfect Midi controller for it. It will be like 2 F1 in 1. Oo Having just spent the last couple of weeks mapping an APC-40 to traktor I don't believe it will be as good as an F1 Originally Posted by bobalandi Will there be a traktor mapping for it? from what I've heard at least, Akai keeps those pretty tightly linked to ableton. I'm positive someone will make one.
Molly Moszer 15.03.2012	Will there be a traktor mapping for it? from what I've heard at least, Akai keeps those pretty tightly linked to ableton.

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