BCR 2000 or UC-33e
BCR 2000 or UC-33e Posted on: 14.10.2012 by Toshiko Demaray Hello,I'm actually a DJ on traktor and I do some production on ableton. Here is the fact : I'd like a controller which can allow me to do physical mixing on ableton and which can be use to DJ. I actually got a traktor F1 and a mixtrack pro. I'd like to try to DJ on Ableton, and here is how I see it : Playing effects(with the fader and knobs) and launching clips (with the pads) with the traktor F1, and mixing the track volume and the EQs with the controller. What do you believe of that setup? So what do you believe will be the best controller, the m-audio UC 33e or the Berhingher BCR2000? If finally I prefer DJing on Traktor, which of the two controllers would be the best to dj on Traktor? Thank for your answer | |
| Leeanna Ayla 16.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by vinc305
This is how I had my APC mapped to use in Traktor. |
| Celine Surico 15.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by vinc305
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| Rolanda Clodfelder 15.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by tekki
I would choose the APC40 over those two for both Traktor and Ableton.
IMHO there is VERY few controllers that are going to suit both Traktor and Ableton - they are just "too" different softwares - 2 x K2's or perhaps a combination on the LC-1 and MM-1 from Behringer when it gets released might be worth a look at. I also used to have a BCR and UC33 btw - the BCR is great if you really need a knob box, the UC33 is great if you really want a fader box, soft-takeover though on the UC33 ugh. Both units feel "toyish" - kinda like a Dell Inspiron and either way neither is particularly intuitive IMHO for either Traktor or Ableton. Hold onto your cash for a few weeks. |
| Toshiko Demaray 14.10.2012 | Hello, I'm actually a DJ on traktor and I do some production on ableton. Here is the fact : I'd like a controller which can allow me to do physical mixing on ableton and which can be use to DJ. I actually got a traktor F1 and a mixtrack pro. I'd like to try to DJ on Ableton, and here is how I see it : Playing effects(with the fader and knobs) and launching clips (with the pads) with the traktor F1, and mixing the track volume and the EQs with the controller. What do you believe of that setup? So what do you believe will be the best controller, the m-audio UC 33e or the Berhingher BCR2000? If finally I prefer DJing on Traktor, which of the two controllers would be the best to dj on Traktor? Thank for your answer |
| Leeanna Ayla 16.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by vinc305
This is how I had my APC mapped to use in Traktor. |
| Brunilda Kora 16.10.2012 | I'm gonna suggest the UC-33e. Because I've got one. And I love it. |
| Celine Surico 15.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by vinc305
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| Toshiko Demaray 15.10.2012 | I don't see how I could DJ with an APC 40 on Traktor. How to play with EQs, how to play with effects? There are just to many pads and not enough knobs. There is no jog wheel. As a all in one controller, it dont have a soundcard to headphones preview. Am I right? |
| Leota Dolney 16.10.2012 | I have a BCR200 that I mainly use for Ableton. Initially, I wanted it because it had so many knobs that I could map all sorts of FX racks etc. to it. But lately, I have found that I am rarely using more than a handful of knobs. I am using Ableton more for production these days and my FX setup changes all the time...so I just wind up assigning mappings to the BCR on the fly. I don't really use the BCR for Traktor at all and honestly don't believe it would be all that useful for me and what I like to do with Traktor. Frankly, I found my Launchpad to be super useful and versatile...works great in Ableton, it served me well as my first Traktor controller (transport, FX assignment, loops, hotcues, and instant-gratification mapping for 2 decks plus volume meter output). BCR is cheap and can be easily found...but unless you have really specific use in mind for all the encoders etc...you may likely find yourself not really using it fully. |
| Leeanna Ayla 15.10.2012 | Do you use the remix decks in traktor? If not sell the F1 and buy an APC40. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 15.10.2012 |
Originally Posted by tekki
I would choose the APC40 over those two for both Traktor and Ableton.
IMHO there is VERY few controllers that are going to suit both Traktor and Ableton - they are just "too" different softwares - 2 x K2's or perhaps a combination on the LC-1 and MM-1 from Behringer when it gets released might be worth a look at. I also used to have a BCR and UC33 btw - the BCR is great if you really need a knob box, the UC33 is great if you really want a fader box, soft-takeover though on the UC33 ugh. Both units feel "toyish" - kinda like a Dell Inspiron and either way neither is particularly intuitive IMHO for either Traktor or Ableton. Hold onto your cash for a few weeks. |
| Random X 15.10.2012 | I'm really biased, so I'm rooting for the BCR2000. But that's just because I've used and loved it until I got my S4. BCR2000 is still one of the most versatile controllers around. The mapping and preset switching is just so easy, it's nearing the insane. True, the controller has a learning curve which you have to go through, but once you get to know this controller and how to map, you will be able to tackle anything MIDI can throw at this controller. I have had some handson experience with the UC-33, it's a nice controller, but for me it did not feel right. You are able to map the mixer part, but you will have some difficulty mapping transport controls and deck selection. (It's easier to map fader functionality to rotary controls than vice versa) |
| Celine Surico 15.10.2012 | UC-33 is a nice controller but you can't easily launch clips with it, you have the number pad area but it's nothing compared with F1/APC40 and similar controllers. |
| Brock Ricapito 15.10.2012 | do you actually already own the UC33e and the BCR 2000? if you do, then it is entirely up to you to figure out how you want to arrange your Ableton Live sets. if you don't have said controllers, I would say buy the APC40 because: 1. it will do whatever you want it to do much better and more efficiently than the other 2 controllers could. 2. because good luck finding a UC33e. that thing is not common. 3. not only is it hard to find, it is expensive, and even though the BCR 2000 is not particularly costly, it is not cost-efficient in terms of this set up. again, the APC 40 would do its job better for a standard Ableton DJ. then again the beauty of DJing/performing with Ableton is that it is so incredible flexible, so anything could in principle do what you specifically want better, but as a whole, the APC40 dominates, and I believe is more or less indisputably the most comprehensive, well-integrated and intuitive Ableton controller. |
| Toshiko Demaray 14.10.2012 | The fact is that I already have a Traktor f1 and I can't afford to buy the apc 40 |
| Leeanna Ayla 14.10.2012 | I would choose the APC40 over those two for both Traktor and Ableton. |
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