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Maschine VS F1
Posted on: 10.08.2012 by Malcom Koelzer
Hello Techs

Im wondering about which one is more powerful and effective to play samples and beats on top of my mix.

Is it SYNC Maschine or Remix Decks with F1...?

whats your thoughts on this...?

Also please tell me which sound card is good between Xone 4D and Audio 8 or 10?

many thanks....
Evia Nitch
14.08.2012
Originally Posted by Dj Chamath
Also please tell me which sound card is good between Xone 4D and Audio 8 or 10?

many thanks....
Difficult question, the Xone 4D is a mixer/midi device, the others are just audio interfaces.
I'm not sure of the quality and architecture of the NI devices, but the 22 channels of delt-sigma sweetness that comes from a 4D is hard to beat.
Leeanna Ayla
13.08.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
So far the only way to use the remix decks to their full potential is to own the F1 to control them, if you have maschine setup to use remix decks they will act like sample decks (4 slots vs. 16)

Remix decks have not been officially unlocked for other devices, this is the same situation im in, wanting to use remix decks as well as a step sequencer of the maschine for drum loops and such, but i have a feeling they are coming out with a new maschine sometime within the next year me believes, so i might just pick up a F1 and wait for my production style side of my setup until the new hotness comes out

MidiFighter 3D has HID control of the remix decks. Plus it can send MIDI and HID at the same which is something the F1 can't do.
Delena Katherman
13.08.2012
Originally Posted by psyEDk
Yeah. It's pretty much like this.

Maschine can do everything the F1 can do.
But the F1 can't do a tenth of what Maschine can
From a music production standpoint, that's true. But can Maschine give you complete control over all parameters in the remix decks? The OP just wanted to PLAY "samples and beats" over his mix, so an F1 might be perfect for him. Of course, if he does need the step sequencer, he's out of luck with the F1, but I don't believe it's accurate to say Maschine can do everything the F1 can (unless there are updates I'm unaware of).
Malcom Koelzer
12.08.2012
Originally Posted by psyEDk

Maschine can do everything the F1 can do.
But the F1 can't do a tenth of what Maschine can
Estella Waber
12.08.2012
Originally Posted by Dj Chamath
if i need the Step Sequencer thing then its only have in Maschine i believe...?
Yeah. It's pretty much like this.

Maschine can do everything the F1 can do.
But the F1 can't do a tenth of what Maschine can
Malcom Koelzer
10.08.2012		Hello Techs

Im wondering about which one is more powerful and effective to play samples and beats on top of my mix.

Is it SYNC Maschine or Remix Decks with F1...?

whats your thoughts on this...?

Also please tell me which sound card is good between Xone 4D and Audio 8 or 10?

many thanks....
Charlyn Molera
02.11.2012		I've made a new tutorial and I made a simple to use program to map every controller to it.

Evia Nitch
14.08.2012
Originally Posted by Dj Chamath
Also please tell me which sound card is good between Xone 4D and Audio 8 or 10?

many thanks....
Difficult question, the Xone 4D is a mixer/midi device, the others are just audio interfaces.
I'm not sure of the quality and architecture of the NI devices, but the 22 channels of delt-sigma sweetness that comes from a 4D is hard to beat.
Leeanna Ayla
13.08.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
So far the only way to use the remix decks to their full potential is to own the F1 to control them, if you have maschine setup to use remix decks they will act like sample decks (4 slots vs. 16)

Remix decks have not been officially unlocked for other devices, this is the same situation im in, wanting to use remix decks as well as a step sequencer of the maschine for drum loops and such, but i have a feeling they are coming out with a new maschine sometime within the next year me believes, so i might just pick up a F1 and wait for my production style side of my setup until the new hotness comes out

MidiFighter 3D has HID control of the remix decks. Plus it can send MIDI and HID at the same which is something the F1 can't do.
Kasandra Kreindler
14.08.2012		So far the only way to use the remix decks to their full potential is to own the F1 to control them, if you have maschine setup to use remix decks they will act like sample decks (4 slots vs. 16)

Remix decks have not been officially unlocked for other devices, this is the same situation im in, wanting to use remix decks as well as a step sequencer of the maschine for drum loops and such, but i have a feeling they are coming out with a new maschine sometime within the next year me believes, so i might just pick up a F1 and wait for my production style side of my setup until the new hotness comes out
Delena Katherman
13.08.2012
Originally Posted by psyEDk
Yeah. It's pretty much like this.

Maschine can do everything the F1 can do.
But the F1 can't do a tenth of what Maschine can
From a music production standpoint, that's true. But can Maschine give you complete control over all parameters in the remix decks? The OP just wanted to PLAY "samples and beats" over his mix, so an F1 might be perfect for him. Of course, if he does need the step sequencer, he's out of luck with the F1, but I don't believe it's accurate to say Maschine can do everything the F1 can (unless there are updates I'm unaware of).
Malcom Koelzer
12.08.2012
Originally Posted by psyEDk

Maschine can do everything the F1 can do.
But the F1 can't do a tenth of what Maschine can
Estella Waber
12.08.2012		I should elaborate.
Traktor can easily send midi clock to Maschine which it follows really TIGHT even if you're sweeping the tempo by 30bpm, it sticks like glue. If your audio interface has the inputs, you can pretty easily then route Traktor decks over into to Maschine for sampling.

Get good with the controller and you barely ever need to look at the Maschine software on screen.
It's pretty quick to slice a recorded loop out of from Traktor and automap it to the 4x4 pads.

From there you can play the pads live as you want, remixing the groove on the fly, or you can switch over to the step sequencer to just say, keep the snare of that loop going in the background right on the beat long after you've mixed out of that track into something else.

Well, that's how i use it at least
I'm surprised the other DJs using Maschine in clubs like Dubfire and Liebing only seem to use it to add sequenced samples to their loop-heavy traktor sets.
Estella Waber
12.08.2012
Originally Posted by Dj Chamath
if i need the Step Sequencer thing then its only have in Maschine i believe...?
Yeah. It's pretty much like this.

Maschine can do everything the F1 can do.
But the F1 can't do a tenth of what Maschine can
Malcom Koelzer
11.08.2012		if i need the Step Sequencer thing then its only have in Maschine i believe...?
Ashanti Andreacchio
10.08.2012		they bouth can work in verry similar ways. It all come down to if you want to just play samples or you want to make some music on your own. If only sample triggering then go F1 now with 2.5.1 oneshots can ignore quantiz so no problem playing some drumming on the remix decks. If you want to make some music like play your own bass/synth line ontop of your mixes then Maschine is better. I have 2 F1's and a micro Maschine and I use the F1 for remix decks and micro for drumming and playing melodies.
You can make some loops in maschine and export them into remix decks then use the Maschine to add melodies I also have a synthstation25 hooked up to the mashine software witch makes it musch easier to play real melodies.

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