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[OT...kinda...] Posted on: 31.05.2011 by Margie Pavell can we all please stop spoon feeding people that ask the most general questions?also can we please put an end to the "help me what sounds like this" threads?... SEARCH...please do it... dig...i have been digging for 20 years... if not....please see the beatport/toolroom top one hundred and stop bothering the rest of us... | |
| Jacque Divinity 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Jacque Divinity 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
A lot of it is generational compared to laziness and ignorance in my opinion. DJ culture, is the rockstar culture of the current generation of teens. I doubt a majority of the teens getting into DJ'ing have ever even seen a record store let alone walked into one to find music. The extent of seeing/touching vinyl is probably from finding a crate full of their dad's records in the garage. EDIT: this is one of the major downsides of a faceless/ageless online community!! |
| Nedra Fresneda 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Nisha Latkowski 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by MC-LEAN
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| Mindi Spitzig 02.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Tatum Ansaldo 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
Meh, you're entitled to your opinion. The 'I'm not helping you because I never had any help when I was starting out' line doesn't sit well with me. Then again, it looks like this morning you did the exact same thing you seem to be railing against, so I'm a bit confused. http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=31074 |
| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
And it's one thing to ask for help, and it's another thing to ask people to do the digging for you. And like I said, it seems like it's a knee jerk reaction to just come on here and expect people to give you tunes, when instead you should maybe spend a few days trying to search it out yourself and see what's out there. As a well known DJ once said (believe it was Danny Howells), DJing is 10% playing the tunes, and 90% digging for the tunes |
| Delila Vandommelen 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
(Do we have one that's labelled as such? ) |
| Maisie Marras 02.06.2011 | dude. i was tapping on my desk am i drummer now? why cant i be drummer? |
| Margie Pavell 02.06.2011 | i believe it might be the "video game generation"...there is no perfect game...there is no perfect set...there is no princess to save...there is no demon to kill... like golf...there is no perfect round... there is always work to do... |
| Jacque Divinity 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Margie Pavell 01.06.2011 | i believe i love josh... i have never refused anyone a helping hand (i am in nursing)... but you need to help yourself... it's music...it's your flavor...if you love it that much then you need to find and play what you love...other people can only point you...no one can tell you what you like...unless you listen to Deadmau5 and Tiesto... (ooopps...did i say that or believe that?) i am kidding...i own a few of both of their records...early deadrat though...before he got all eletro pop house... |
| Jacque Divinity 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
A lot of it is generational compared to laziness and ignorance in my opinion. DJ culture, is the rockstar culture of the current generation of teens. I doubt a majority of the teens getting into DJ'ing have ever even seen a record store let alone walked into one to find music. The extent of seeing/touching vinyl is probably from finding a crate full of their dad's records in the garage. EDIT: this is one of the major downsides of a faceless/ageless online community!! |
| Nedra Fresneda 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Margie Pavell 01.06.2011 | controllers are cheap...music is cheap...everyone wants to be a DJ... |
| Nisha Latkowski 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
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| Margie Pavell 01.06.2011 | maybe i overreacted... just tried of people not digging for their own music...it's one of the best ways to break new artists and producers... |
| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by MC-LEAN
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| Mindi Spitzig 02.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Leeanna Ayla 01.06.2011 | The best method to teach someone is to explain, demonstrate, guide and enable. I don't mind helping people out once or twice, but I'll almost always point them in the direction of finding the answer themselves. If after I've enabled them a couple of times they're still asking questions then I'll just tell them straight up they need to figure it out themselves. That's been rare though, especially on here. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
Meh, you're entitled to your opinion. The 'I'm not helping you because I never had any help when I was starting out' line doesn't sit well with me. Then again, it looks like this morning you did the exact same thing you seem to be railing against, so I'm a bit confused. http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=31074 |
| Janell Selser 01.06.2011 | We should close down the community
s and replace them with a giant search button. Apparently all questions have been answered and there is no new info to be had on that post you found addressing a similar question from 2009. What an awsome site this would be, then we can sit here and wait for weeks on end for a new software or controller to be anounced to finnally have a discussion about it. For those that take the time out of their extremely busy day to read a post they aren't interested in just to post "please use the search button" I will kindly ask that you to "please use your scroll wheel". Example of helpful/unhelpful http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=29951 |
| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Tatum Ansaldo 01.06.2011 | I just don't understand what the problem is. Let's take this dubstep thread as an example: http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=1549 The guy doesn't know a lot of dubstep, so asks, and a lot of people are very willing to help him out with artists to look for etc. No one's forcing you to divulge your super secret dancefloor killer, no one's forcing you to reply at all, but many people are more than happy to. What's the big deal. Sure he could spend a few days looking through the millions of dubstep tracks on beatport and listening to them all, but why not have a starting point to work from? You might as well say that putting Traktor tutorials on youtube is helping people cheat, because if they don't know how to use the software they should just work it out for themselves. |
| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
And it's one thing to ask for help, and it's another thing to ask people to do the digging for you. And like I said, it seems like it's a knee jerk reaction to just come on here and expect people to give you tunes, when instead you should maybe spend a few days trying to search it out yourself and see what's out there. As a well known DJ once said (believe it was Danny Howells), DJing is 10% playing the tunes, and 90% digging for the tunes |
| Fernande Alkins 01.06.2011 | While I agree with all of you guys I'm just a sucker and always remember on the various community
s I'm on that we all were beginners. I enjoy finding new music and believeing about how I can incorporate it into a set in my head. It's like a puzzle and fun for me. Not everyone is like me though. I'm new to DJing and can't hold a stick to lots of people on here but if I've conquered something or crossed something that can help someone I'm one to post it up for them. What they do with it is their business. I'm just sitting here at the computer anyway. This happens on my car community way too much. Just help someone out and let the place keep being peaceful rather than just being an ass cause someone will eventually post something useful for them. |
| Delila Vandommelen 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
(Do we have one that's labelled as such? ) |
| Tatum Ansaldo 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
Maybe one person's from New York and knows the scene well, and hears something from Toronto and really likes it but hasn't heard of anyone around there, why not just ask someone who does? |
| Breana Singerman 01.06.2011 | If you're only going to play what other people suggest, then what's the point? You might as well just download their mixes and give up DJing altogether |
| Roy Houn 01.06.2011 | i agree, if you want to help someone help them, thats cool and nice, if you dont, then dont, its simple. If you read a post and you can help wheres the harm in just pointing them in the right direction, it takes just as long to type read the fuckin manual, or try using the search functions etc as it would to maybe just help them a little... just my thoughts |
| Shira Callie 01.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
...Fatality.... I like happy places.... |
| Latoria Kavulich 01.06.2011 | +1, also, less work for chris |
| Tatum Ansaldo 01.06.2011 | If there are people willing to answer, there's no problem with it. If you don't like it, don't post. As padi said, over moderated community s are no fun. This one is awesome and has a good atmosphere, and I'd rather people felt welcome here than there were hyper strict posting rules. |
| Nedra Fresneda 01.06.2011 | I come from a community that it's that way (and no OT), it's not a happy place. |
| Maisie Marras 01.06.2011 | no'd sadly this isnt how the world works and it wont stop. i would love for it to stop, and people to do their own digging, but you need to believe of all the different types of people and what scenerio they migh be in. without them the community would be all OT and thats another thread and a thread that doesnt need to be opened again. |
| Breana Singerman 31.05.2011 | Man makes a strong point, there's something to be said for those DJ's who dig and finds the hot tunes that have flown under the radar and can't still put together a smashing set with out having to rely on the "big guns" to make it happen. Here's a tip, if you like tune "X" by artist "Y", find out what labels they are on, who they have remixed, and even see if they have any sets online and start looking there. Shouldn't be a knee jerk reaction to jump on here and start asking people to dig for you. |
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