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Posted on: 18.06.2011 by Lena Schirado
Hey guys,

I just wanted to get your general opinion on something. I recently bid on a mixer on eBay that had no reserve and ended up winning it for $31. The next day however, the seller refunded me my money with a note saying that $31 was too low for him and he wanted $125. I was wondering if that's actually allowed? What should I do? Normally I wouldn't care and just buy another mixer on eBay but it seems that he wasted my time. Your thoughts?

Cheers,
Marc.Elektro
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Julianna Riecken
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
first of all he's not smart enough to put a reserve on it, then he's not smart enough to open another account an bid on it himself?
+1
Nakisha Startup
18.06.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
first of all he's not smart enough to put a reserve on it, then he's not smart enough to open another account an bid on it himself?
:O That's sneaky. My naive self wouldn't have even thought of that!
Lena Schirado
18.06.2011		Hey guys,

I just wanted to get your general opinion on something. I recently bid on a mixer on eBay that had no reserve and ended up winning it for $31. The next day however, the seller refunded me my money with a note saying that $31 was too low for him and he wanted $125. I was wondering if that's actually allowed? What should I do? Normally I wouldn't care and just buy another mixer on eBay but it seems that he wasted my time. Your thoughts?

Cheers,
Marc.Elektro
Ashley Bernhoft
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle
He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Thats odd, it is very different in Germany, the auction itself is a valid sales contract that both agree on participating. If one does not want to pay or to ship you can sue them to do so with almost 100% chance of success.

I am so happy that international law is nothing to worry about for me
Lena Schirado
19.06.2011		Thank you all for the suggestions. I was believeing of not going through the hassle of reporting him but I've decided to contact the seller again and give him a chance to fix it. If he doesn't I'm going to report him just so that future buyers don't fall into the same trap. Having people like that on eBay can really take away from the experience of finding a bargain.
Julianna Riecken
19.06.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
first of all he's not smart enough to put a reserve on it, then he's not smart enough to open another account an bid on it himself?
+1
Tania Somppi
18.06.2011		It sux when you believe you've snagged yourself a bargain, only to be told they want to welch on the deal, doesn't it?

You can file a non-performing seller complaint with Ebay/Paypal after offering the money via Paypal and they don't accept the payment.
It's a while since I was last in your position but I remember leaving a seller negative feedback without the transaction really taking place (I attempted payment but they didn't accept it) I don't know if you'll still be able to neg them, in this instance.
I filed a seller non-performance complaint but didn't hear anymore about it tbh. Internet acquaintances who've been the bad guy in similar situations say you get a strike against your name each time a complaint is filed, which might lead to their account being closed or suspended so make sure you file a complaint and leave them some negative feedback, if you can, to warn other ebayers and deter the seller from doing it again.

Other than that, if the seller isn't happy with the price and refuses the payment there's nothing you can do really, other than threaten him with the above and hope they honour the deal to protect their feedback and seller privileges.
Jayna Cristofori
18.06.2011		If he doesn't want to sell it for $31 he wont. The worst thing you can do even if you contact ebay is a bad review... still wont do crap... all he needs to do is a new email and thats it
Marguerite Truka
18.06.2011		the seller actually agrees to sell the item at the price the auction is settled for like at an auction in person in the UK. So accordming to that he has to sell it. I looked for lawsuits to do with this online auction sort of situation and cant find any. there are lots more complications aswel. but the others are probly right you will never see that item
Nakisha Startup
18.06.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
first of all he's not smart enough to put a reserve on it, then he's not smart enough to open another account an bid on it himself?
:O That's sneaky. My naive self wouldn't have even thought of that!
Marshall Aby
18.06.2011		He is most probably breaching eBay regulations but legally (from a UK perspective) it is merely an invitation to buy and he has not accepted payment for the item so it still belongs to him.
Leeanna Ayla
18.06.2011		first of all he's not smart enough to put a reserve on it, then he's not smart enough to open another account an bid on it himself?
Len Lukawski
18.06.2011		I would let the seller know that they are breaching Ebay terms. Give them an opportunity to complete the transaction before you provide feedback and request Ebay investigate the issue.
Roy Houn
18.06.2011		as far as im aware, if there was no reserve he has no right to do that, you won it fair and square. I would get on to Ebay and let them know what has happened mate. Its his own fault for not putting a reserve price on his mixer.
Kecia Wnukowski
18.06.2011		If he didn't put any reserve, he is supposed to sell it to you if the sale came to its closing. Make a request to ebay. You'll probably won't get the item anyway but at least he'll be 'pursued' (not very scary but then you can't play a game and decide afterwards the rules don't please you).
Pansy Shiveley
18.06.2011		Well, eBay certainly doesn't allow it, but that's just their regulation. The worst they can do is kill his account, which probably won't bother him - unless he's got a solid reputation built up which he doesn't want to lose.

From a legal point of view, I don't believe he's got any obligation at all to sell it to you for $31. Better luck next time.

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