How do producers get away with this?

How do producers get away with this?
Posted on: 25.12.2011 by Kassandra Guthmiller
Why is it that you can hear a song that is very much identical to a pre-existing song?

For example, I recently heard the song Kendo, by Nari and Milani - that sounds pretty much identical to Higher State of Consciousness (Tweeking Acid remix), by Josh Wink

Similar to Napoli by Whelan and Di Scala, which sounds very similar to Apperception by Manjaro

Do the original producers give the new producers permission to do a 'cover'?
Georgianna Eurick
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
That has to be the understatement of the year dude.
I love Daft Punk. Maybe the greatest spectacle i have ever seen but they havent just sampled a shit load of tunes they have totally nicked and reworked them. I dont have an issue with it cus i love the tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4
Well neither do I. I've just wanted to give an example and as you can see I used the word "even". That should've alone gave you the impression that I also love them

No understatement at all
nayit ruiz jaramillo
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
Even Daft Punk have used samples from the songs they like
That has to be the understatement of the year dude.
I love Daft Punk. Maybe the greatest spectacle i have ever seen but they havent just sampled a shit load of tunes they have totally nicked and reworked them. I dont have an issue with it cus i love the tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4
Patrica Giancaterino
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by smittten
There needs to be more inspiration drawn from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc
+1
Such a good song!
Nella Libin
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by Jumanji
Myself personally, I believe the 60s & 70s are over done. I'd rather hear samples from the 40s & earlier or the 80s & later.
Will the 50's do ya?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHVW-fgQy4

Its all out there ya just got to know what to look for
Felipe Willia
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
You can also use 4 secondes of a 60's track and looks cool in 2011...
Myself personally, I believe the 60s & 70s are over done. I'd rather hear samples from the 40s & earlier or the 80s & later.
Kesha Pietrak
25.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
You can also use 4 secondes of a 60's track and looks cool in 2011...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmexOmLyuVU
and then Pitbull will remix it and so on and so forth...
well I believe that track was sampled/remixed so much because avicii sampled it and then all of the sudden everyone went crazy about it

Totally agree that alot of producers tracks sound similar, past the point that it cant even be considered sampling because the whole track sounds pretty much the same and you can barely tell the difference between the two
Romelia Stankard
25.12.2011
Originally Posted by Grifff
Why is it that you can hear a song that is very much identical to a pre-existing song?

For example, I recently heard the song Kendo, by Nari and Milani - that sounds pretty much identical to Higher State of Consciousness (Tweeking Acid remix), by Josh Wink

Parts sounds kind of similar but I would hardly call them almost identical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63vl9cIwNUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieMAiI5szoI

With the millions of songs released over the years and people building on similar palettes of synths, sounds and styles you're inevitably going to get stuff that sounds kind of similar- and sometimes it's something genre defining that gets done over and over.

People build on things and I wouldn't be surprised if the latter artist never heard the first song, that acid synth sound has been done many times before and has entered into the the collective electronic music unconscious. I'm pretty sure I've never heard either of those songs before and I've heard that sound. Or who knows maybe I have heard them before and just didn't know where.... It's pretty hard to make a truly original sound.
Kassandra Guthmiller
25.12.2011
Why is it that you can hear a song that is very much identical to a pre-existing song?

For example, I recently heard the song Kendo, by Nari and Milani - that sounds pretty much identical to Higher State of Consciousness (Tweeking Acid remix), by Josh Wink

Similar to Napoli by Whelan and Di Scala, which sounds very similar to Apperception by Manjaro

Do the original producers give the new producers permission to do a 'cover'?
Georgianna Eurick
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
That has to be the understatement of the year dude.
I love Daft Punk. Maybe the greatest spectacle i have ever seen but they havent just sampled a shit load of tunes they have totally nicked and reworked them. I dont have an issue with it cus i love the tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4
Well neither do I. I've just wanted to give an example and as you can see I used the word "even". That should've alone gave you the impression that I also love them

No understatement at all
Nella Libin
26.12.2011
Reminded me of this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
nayit ruiz jaramillo
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
Even Daft Punk have used samples from the songs they like
That has to be the understatement of the year dude.
I love Daft Punk. Maybe the greatest spectacle i have ever seen but they havent just sampled a shit load of tunes they have totally nicked and reworked them. I dont have an issue with it cus i love the tunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4
Georgianna Eurick
26.12.2011
Even Daft Punk have used samples from the songs they like
Patrica Giancaterino
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by smittten
There needs to be more inspiration drawn from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc
+1
Such a good song!
Nella Libin
26.12.2011
Sensational!
Len Lukawski
27.12.2011
There needs to be more inspiration drawn from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc
Nella Libin
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by Jumanji
Myself personally, I believe the 60s & 70s are over done. I'd rather hear samples from the 40s & earlier or the 80s & later.
Will the 50's do ya?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHVW-fgQy4

Its all out there ya just got to know what to look for
Inez Marcinik
26.12.2011
All producers and musicians are influenced by their surroundings, it's totally believable that some producers accidently recreate similar tracks to songs they've heard at some point or other where a remnant of that track has stuck around in their subconscious.
Nella Libin
26.12.2011
Pah 2011? You Young 'uns..

Try 91

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TzWJNC0QrQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PM_htuyDUM
Neva Sparacino
26.12.2011
http://www.everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/
Felipe Willia
26.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
You can also use 4 secondes of a 60's track and looks cool in 2011...
Myself personally, I believe the 60s & 70s are over done. I'd rather hear samples from the 40s & earlier or the 80s & later.
Kesha Pietrak
25.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
You can also use 4 secondes of a 60's track and looks cool in 2011...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmexOmLyuVU
and then Pitbull will remix it and so on and so forth...
well I believe that track was sampled/remixed so much because avicii sampled it and then all of the sudden everyone went crazy about it

Totally agree that alot of producers tracks sound similar, past the point that it cant even be considered sampling because the whole track sounds pretty much the same and you can barely tell the difference between the two
Lisa Lochotzki
25.12.2011
You can also use 4 secondes of a 60's track and looks cool in 2011...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmexOmLyuVU
and then Pitbull will remix it and so on and so forth...
Romelia Stankard
25.12.2011
Originally Posted by Grifff
Why is it that you can hear a song that is very much identical to a pre-existing song?

For example, I recently heard the song Kendo, by Nari and Milani - that sounds pretty much identical to Higher State of Consciousness (Tweeking Acid remix), by Josh Wink

Parts sounds kind of similar but I would hardly call them almost identical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63vl9cIwNUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieMAiI5szoI

With the millions of songs released over the years and people building on similar palettes of synths, sounds and styles you're inevitably going to get stuff that sounds kind of similar- and sometimes it's something genre defining that gets done over and over.

People build on things and I wouldn't be surprised if the latter artist never heard the first song, that acid synth sound has been done many times before and has entered into the the collective electronic music unconscious. I'm pretty sure I've never heard either of those songs before and I've heard that sound. Or who knows maybe I have heard them before and just didn't know where.... It's pretty hard to make a truly original sound.

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