Looking for real bouncy kick drum samples
Looking for real bouncy kick drum samples Posted on: 01.03.2010 by Verona Fashbaugh Let me begin by saying that I havent yet found a kick drum sample that I'm happy with. To be fair, I know little to nothing about EQing/compression and I know that that can be half of the battle.I'm looking for a kick sample that is real bouncy, or some advice on how to do this. For whatever reason, I can only believe of one example of this off the top of my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Y8uRRuRlk The sound I'm looking for begins at about 0:44. And yes, the video is a bit teenybopper (and almost surely lip-synched), but I also really like it for some reason. | |
| juan garcia 11.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by janzak
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| Laraine Arceo 11.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by pier
I've got hundreds of kick drum samples and sometimes I can just scroll through all of them without finding a single one I like. Every time that has happened to me, it was because my reference track (the one that made me go oooohhh I wanna dooo thaaat) had everything else in it too - bass, percs, lead, it had been mastered, everything compressed. So I was basically trying to make soup from a stone and I really needed to look at my track before fiddling with the kick. Imo, half the juice in the kick is in everything BUT the kick btw jesus those girls are hot |
| Verona Fashbaugh 01.03.2010 | Let me begin by saying that I havent yet found a kick drum sample that I'm happy with. To be fair, I know little to nothing about EQing/compression and I know that that can be half of the battle. I'm looking for a kick sample that is real bouncy, or some advice on how to do this. For whatever reason, I can only believe of one example of this off the top of my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Y8uRRuRlk The sound I'm looking for begins at about 0:44. And yes, the video is a bit teenybopper (and almost surely lip-synched), but I also really like it for some reason. |
| juan garcia 11.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by janzak
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| Laraine Arceo 11.03.2010 |
Originally Posted by pier
I've got hundreds of kick drum samples and sometimes I can just scroll through all of them without finding a single one I like. Every time that has happened to me, it was because my reference track (the one that made me go oooohhh I wanna dooo thaaat) had everything else in it too - bass, percs, lead, it had been mastered, everything compressed. So I was basically trying to make soup from a stone and I really needed to look at my track before fiddling with the kick. Imo, half the juice in the kick is in everything BUT the kick btw jesus those girls are hot |
| Ashirumatic DJ 11.03.2010 | Everyone is right here. You do need to start with a good sample (Vengence Sound Packs are great as is the XFER disc) Layer a few kicks you like, perhaps a bit of a snare for your liking. Then EQ to Taste and Compress em into a nice bouncy kick. If you're not to savy at this, watch some vids on youtube that explain it, and try to make a few of your own and repeat until you find something you like. |
| Twanda Reimche 11.03.2010 | I haven't heard the video... but most of the time the secret to a good kick is compression/expansion/gates/sidechain and the bass. How those tree elements interact together (kick + bass + dynamics) is the real secret of pros. When I say dynamics I also mean multiband compressors. Sometimes there are 2 basses. One very deep that is opened with a sidechain when the kick hits, and another one less deep that is more melodic. It gives the illusion of a deep kick, when in fact it's just the bass... |
| Harold Jaras 11.03.2010 | there's a lot of quality samples in the Vengeance packs. something for everyone i believe |
| Keith Mermer 05.03.2010 | like the key to a nice winter outfit; layering is definitely a good method (as others have mentioned) but also keep in mind, its all gonna be a little different once you put it into the mix w/ all your other parts... a good mix down will also help in getting things bouncy, as is swing and side chain compressing. |
| Prudence Vlasyuk 04.03.2010 | There's no real set formula, so I'd just try some things out I doubt it would make a huge difference whether your compress them separately or not. You're right a tube or vale compressor will saturate the sound a little, so you might skip saturation if you're using a tube compressor. Also, what Lambox said is right, you have to be careful using reverb on things with a lot of bass so you might want to only apply reverb to the higher frequency layers. Things can get muddy fast with reverb on bass. Some reverbs also have a high pass filter built in for that reason. |
| Jolyn Brunello 03.03.2010 | thanx dubs,so balance the 3 parts of the kick so they fit,then add stuff like reverb(again i've read that it's not the normally done thing to add it to kicks)then saturation,then compression or do i compress them all seperate.i'm asking because this community
has made me want to have a go but i only have ableton and a handful of efx plug ins.i've only read magazines about this stuff and am only repeating what i've read so apologies if i'm sounding like an arris mate just trying to get an idea before i delve in. i also thought tube or valve compressor would be saturating the sound a little? |
| Verona Fashbaugh 03.03.2010 | ^^^ I was gonna say... the first thing I thought of when I read distort the kick drum was hardstyle/gabber.... When I was a nub, I used to just use reverb to get that kind of sound, which sounded fine on my little computer speakers, but play it on anything with bass response and you've got a giant mess. @Dodge: I guess my best option would be to layer kicks. I could just EQ the one with a higher freq range and eliminate all the bass out of it and then add a little reverb... |
| Prudence Vlasyuk 03.03.2010 | A little bit of the right kind of distortion can make a kick sound much louder and brighter. I tend to use Ableton's Saturator effect on drums along with some compression and reverb. Some other kinds of distortion might color the sound too much (I wouldn't use an overdrive or fuzz kind of distortion effect unless you're doing Gabber), but a little bit of soft distortion / soft clipping just fattens the sound up a bit. |
| Jolyn Brunello 03.03.2010 | compress them all seperately? |
| Jolyn Brunello 03.03.2010 | distortion for a bouncy kick????am i missing something |
| Sharleen Binckley 03.03.2010 | Layering is key. Distortion on drums always works a treat, adds crunch and harmonics. If you are working with a sample pack or drum hits that come as standard with something you will never find one slamming kick sound. You have to layer single hits to make a new fat hit. Take around 3 kicks, one with nice bottom end like an 808 or 909, one with nice mid range, one with nice top end/attack. Process them all seperately (EQ, compression, distortion etc) but listen to them playing together as a whole. Layer them all together, once you have it sounding the way you want, bounce it down so that it sounds fat on it's own with no plug-ins over the top. Or the other way to do it is to find a track with drums you like, and if you can find a section where the drums play with no other instruments, just pinch em and use them. You're only going to build a completely new track around them anyway, a kick drum is a kick drum. Unless you're using drums that are instantly recognisable no one is going to know that you nicked a kick drum from somewhere. You could even pinch someone else kick drum and process it or layer it so it doesn't sound like it originally did, then that way no body will ever know. Hope that helps |
| Jolyn Brunello 03.03.2010 | im not a producer but i don't believe distortion would be the thing to use.maybe put it through a tube or valve compressor, so as to give it warmth not degrade or distort it.909 sounds like a good start with a synth drum aswell so you can tweak it till your happy(you'll learn about frequency doing this,buy computer music they've got a frequency chart which can help beginners no end,also videos of pro producers).once you can do this then your ready to learn about compression which is easier to grasp at this stage coz you would understand how you wanted your kick to sound coz you would've made it yourself.as i said im not a producer so could be way off the mark but i used read computer music to help me understand ableton to dj with.thought i try explain my last comment i just googled it and read that you should have 3 parts to a good kick.a short click in the higher frequencies.a subby frequency and a mid frequency.took me 5 mins to find and read and there were enough details for any beginner to work with.........have you tried any of this? |
| Nancey Teck 03.03.2010 | if your using FLS, u could probably work it out in "fruit kick". i believe there are five knobs that u can tweek to your liking. you could make it even bouncier. |
| Prudence Vlasyuk 03.03.2010 | This kick sounds to me like a classic 909 kick drum with lots of compression and a little distortion. I believe compression is really key for the sound you're after. |
| Jolyn Brunello 02.03.2010 | if you don't want to learn then just cut it out of your fav drum track???? cant see you having much fun making music if you dont learn how to make music though. |
| juan garcia 02.03.2010 | the brunette for sure, , wait, what was the question? i agree on the layering, and make sure to carve out some freq on each so they fit better. |
| Su Nogowski 02.03.2010 | um all i can say is: "layering" you will need to create your own. its obviously more difficult but if you do make your own it will teach you heaps about understanding every aspect of a kick drum, very important for when you try to get a baseline sit well with your kick. there is a "how to make your own kick drum" thread amongst everything else here. |
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