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How do i produce music?
Posted on: 03.03.2010 by Shu Dietiker
Hey

Recently I bought several software... I purchased these objects as for a very good reduction and birthday present, so i almost paid nothing for all of these and from the videos they seem to be cool.

I bought Logic Pro, Maschine Groove Station, NI Komplete 5, Battery.

I'd like to start producing music but certain things I do not know where to start and also I don't know certain terms such as synthesisers, slicing, etc...

Who can help me out? Where can i find a guide book to answer the terms and teach me how to do things? the tutorial videos wern't very useful as for they were more advanced people.

Thanx.
Raymundo Rygalski
28.04.2010
Originally Posted by Fyoog
This is an awesome thread idea, even though it was general query in the first place. I only looked because of the title. I have been a DJ for 13 years now and have always wanted to get into production and since aquiring my new mac it was something that was on the horizon. Knowing that a lot of people will start here being DJ's it would be a great idea to get a resource thread for do's, dont's, where to start, tips and tricks.
Before anyone says that we are currently in the music production part of the community , I mean FROM A BEGINNER LEVEL WITH NO EXPERIENCE like my self

1) I believe you need a midi keyboard for music prodution, any recommendations?
2) I regards to packages, things like logic are for the sequencing, reason and cubase are for synth building as far as I'm aware - what do you need essentially (ie one sequencer, one synth builder etc) to get going for definite?
3) Any other essentials?

Thanks peeps, any advice would be great.
1) Axiom 49, Axiom 49 Pro, Akai MPK49. I prefer the Axiom 49 because it instantly maps with Ableton Live and helps your workflow. The 49 Pro is $200 more, maps with every single DAW but is pricy.

2) It doesn't matter what DAW you use. They all have their pros and cons. Anyone of them can be used for sequencing, synths, etc. Reason and Logic have some great built in synths but if you use Ableton or Cubase just get some great VSTs (nexus, sylenth, kontakt). Deadmau5, Phantom Menace use more than one DAW. I use Ableton, Reason and various plugins.

3) A great audio interface, a decent computer, patience, talent, drive. Youtube has some great tutorials, groove3.com and Sonic Academy are 2 great pay sites with tutorials. Also, check out my youtube channel. I aggregate TONS of DJ stuff
Audrey Pinda
25.04.2010
Originally Posted by Fyoog
FROM A BEGINNER LEVEL WITH NO EXPERIENCE like my self

1) I believe you need a midi keyboard for music prodution, any recommendations?
2) I regards to packages, things like logic are for the sequencing, reason and cubase are for synth building as far as I'm aware - what do you need essentially (ie one sequencer, one synth builder etc) to get going for definite?
3) Any other essentials?

Thanks peeps, any advice would be great.
1) It's recommended, but not "needed" for all software. Honestly I find myself drawing in most of the notes manually. Ableton has the ability to use your computer's keyboard to play various notes, and I find myself using that more and more often. I know other DAW's like reason basically require you to have one. Either way it's not a bad idea to have on. I have the Korg nanoKey and it gets me by just fine, but I may purchase a 49 key in the future just for inspiration.

2) All you really need is one software package. Each does things a little bit differently, and that's really all it comes down to. They all have synths and sequencers built in, and they just do it different is all. Some allow 3rd party synth plug-in's (VST's) while others don't. Personally I've used fruity loops, a bit of reason, and just made the switch to Ableton because I like it the best. You can do everything fairly well in all the programs, it's just about how you deal with the workflow.

3) Honestly? Patience. It takes a lot of time tinkering to get a sound to sound like you want it to. Never mind an entire arrangement. I just picked up a music composition book to help teach me. This is something that is probably even more frustrating than DJing at times, because it's difficult to get the sounds you want from scratch.
Lamonica Rockholt
05.03.2010
Originally Posted by moey2k2001
and to the idiots...
i wasnt asking anyone to give me critizism... why i bought is none of ur business.... if u want to help than it would be nice of you and if not then there's no reason posting... the fact just shows how helpful you are to others and selfish u are!!!
i don't believe that weltraumpapst wanted to critisize you. it's just the fact that buying so much stuff without knowing anything about producing can be quite dangerous regarding the fact that producing may not be the thing for you at all.

hopefully it will be so you can keep the stuff and be busy for the next 5 years. komplete 5 is such a huge package! : D

one site i absolutely adore is http://createdigitalmusic.com. you will get so much inspiration of it, i can guarantee!

peace out!
Raymundo Rygalski
28.04.2010
Originally Posted by Fyoog
This is an awesome thread idea, even though it was general query in the first place. I only looked because of the title. I have been a DJ for 13 years now and have always wanted to get into production and since aquiring my new mac it was something that was on the horizon. Knowing that a lot of people will start here being DJ's it would be a great idea to get a resource thread for do's, dont's, where to start, tips and tricks.
Before anyone says that we are currently in the music production part of the community , I mean FROM A BEGINNER LEVEL WITH NO EXPERIENCE like my self

1) I believe you need a midi keyboard for music prodution, any recommendations?
2) I regards to packages, things like logic are for the sequencing, reason and cubase are for synth building as far as I'm aware - what do you need essentially (ie one sequencer, one synth builder etc) to get going for definite?
3) Any other essentials?

Thanks peeps, any advice would be great.
1) Axiom 49, Axiom 49 Pro, Akai MPK49. I prefer the Axiom 49 because it instantly maps with Ableton Live and helps your workflow. The 49 Pro is $200 more, maps with every single DAW but is pricy.

2) It doesn't matter what DAW you use. They all have their pros and cons. Anyone of them can be used for sequencing, synths, etc. Reason and Logic have some great built in synths but if you use Ableton or Cubase just get some great VSTs (nexus, sylenth, kontakt). Deadmau5, Phantom Menace use more than one DAW. I use Ableton, Reason and various plugins.

3) A great audio interface, a decent computer, patience, talent, drive. Youtube has some great tutorials, groove3.com and Sonic Academy are 2 great pay sites with tutorials. Also, check out my youtube channel. I aggregate TONS of DJ stuff
Raymundo Rygalski
28.04.2010
The most comprehensive productions site I found was Groove3.com it's $30/month for an all access pass and it can teach ANYONE music production. I mastered Ableton Live in about 2 months and instead of having to dig through so many sites, it was all in one place.
Audrey Pinda
25.04.2010
Originally Posted by Fyoog
FROM A BEGINNER LEVEL WITH NO EXPERIENCE like my self

1) I believe you need a midi keyboard for music prodution, any recommendations?
2) I regards to packages, things like logic are for the sequencing, reason and cubase are for synth building as far as I'm aware - what do you need essentially (ie one sequencer, one synth builder etc) to get going for definite?
3) Any other essentials?

Thanks peeps, any advice would be great.
1) It's recommended, but not "needed" for all software. Honestly I find myself drawing in most of the notes manually. Ableton has the ability to use your computer's keyboard to play various notes, and I find myself using that more and more often. I know other DAW's like reason basically require you to have one. Either way it's not a bad idea to have on. I have the Korg nanoKey and it gets me by just fine, but I may purchase a 49 key in the future just for inspiration.

2) All you really need is one software package. Each does things a little bit differently, and that's really all it comes down to. They all have synths and sequencers built in, and they just do it different is all. Some allow 3rd party synth plug-in's (VST's) while others don't. Personally I've used fruity loops, a bit of reason, and just made the switch to Ableton because I like it the best. You can do everything fairly well in all the programs, it's just about how you deal with the workflow.

3) Honestly? Patience. It takes a lot of time tinkering to get a sound to sound like you want it to. Never mind an entire arrangement. I just picked up a music composition book to help teach me. This is something that is probably even more frustrating than DJing at times, because it's difficult to get the sounds you want from scratch.
joe berryhill
25.04.2010
Have you tried Ableton Live? if not download the demo then go here

http://www.cosm.co.nz/index.php/55-E...html?userid=67

Some good stuff there if you don't know anything about production
Wanda Insel
15.04.2010
This is an awesome thread idea, even though it was general query in the first place. I only looked because of the title. I have been a DJ for 13 years now and have always wanted to get into production and since aquiring my new mac it was something that was on the horizon. Knowing that a lot of people will start here being DJ's it would be a great idea to get a resource thread for do's, dont's, where to start, tips and tricks.
Before anyone says that we are currently in the music production part of the community , I mean FROM A BEGINNER LEVEL WITH NO EXPERIENCE like my self

1) I believe you need a midi keyboard for music prodution, any recommendations?
2) I regards to packages, things like logic are for the sequencing, reason and cubase are for synth building as far as I'm aware - what do you need essentially (ie one sequencer, one synth builder etc) to get going for definite?
3) Any other essentials?

Thanks peeps, any advice would be great.
Gregory Finely
15.04.2010
Brilliant thread I myself picked up Ableton 6 weeks or so ago, been tinkering and slowly learning how to do various things with it, using simpler to make drum patters side chaining and also making sure to use compressor youtube is amazing for that.
Zora Dombrowski
15.04.2010
As per my suggestion,you should have to use some software like DJMix. It is produce some kind of tunes and provide some basic environments to creating a musics.
Rochel Tellefsen
17.03.2010
Sort through the tutorials here:

http://www.musictechtutorials.com/category/logic-pro/

You'll find some really helpfull stuff
Vicenta Rendino
16.03.2010
Interesting. Thanks for sharing the links, guys. I find it really resourceful
Wai Rofkahr
15.03.2010
www.futureproducers.com <-- good starter community

www.gearslutz.com <-- more advanced production community


Youtube is your friend. There's no reason why you couldn't learn almost everything you need to know from google/youtube. Watch, read, practice, watch, read, practice... etc.
Shu Dietiker
09.03.2010
thanks a lot to everyone. big help. i guess now i'm on the right way.. =)

cheers peeps.
take care.
Lamonica Rockholt
05.03.2010
Originally Posted by moey2k2001
and to the idiots...
i wasnt asking anyone to give me critizism... why i bought is none of ur business.... if u want to help than it would be nice of you and if not then there's no reason posting... the fact just shows how helpful you are to others and selfish u are!!!
i don't believe that weltraumpapst wanted to critisize you. it's just the fact that buying so much stuff without knowing anything about producing can be quite dangerous regarding the fact that producing may not be the thing for you at all.

hopefully it will be so you can keep the stuff and be busy for the next 5 years. komplete 5 is such a huge package! : D

one site i absolutely adore is http://createdigitalmusic.com. you will get so much inspiration of it, i can guarantee!

peace out!
Verona Fashbaugh
05.03.2010
It's my personal suggestion that you buy/borrow a book about some or all of that software and read it. And take notes. Seriously, I have a notebook that I write down little things that I want to remember. To be statistical, you remember very little of what you read, and writing it down really helps commit whatever it is to memory, even if you never read it again. The same thing applies when your in class, if you just sort of absentmindedly listen, you probably aren't gonna remember all of what you hear, but if you write it down, your chances of absorbing the information greatly increases.

Just a suggestion.
Ashirumatic DJ
04.03.2010
Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) - this is where you will lay your song out from intro to outro

Sequencer/Step Sequencer - is how you will lay your samples (be it drums or vocol cuts etc..) out in a rhythmic pattern

Multi-track digital recording - Pretty much the same as a DAW, allows you to "layer" multiple audio sources

loops (looping) - are seamless pieces of audio the repeat. This is where you question of slicing comes in..

Slicing - is taking a piece of audio and "slicing" or cutting it and rearangin it up to fit the groove of your song you are making. Creating a seamless audio piece.

MIDI - is Data sent from Hardware Devices, or Software to play noted or events. Midi has a quite deep use and I suggest researching midi all on its own.

VST / VSTi - Are plug-ins that allow expansion of your DAW. The may include virtual synthisizers (a fake piano with cool sounds) or Effects like echo, reverd, etc...

Beats Per Minute (BPM)

Key (of the music) - what notes / chords where / will be played to make the music .. http://www.8notes.com is a great resourse to use if you do not know chords.

Equalization (EQ) - Frequency control, like Bass Mid Treble

Effects - Echo, Delay, Compression etc...
Effects chain - refers to the path the audio take from trigger time to the effects it passes through until you hear it from the speakers.

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Lillia Dubble
04.03.2010
Originally Posted by moey2k2001
I'd like to start producing music but certain things I do not know where to start and also I don't know certain terms such as synthesisers, slicing, etc...
What I can probably help with is a quick list of terms. Each one, if you search Wikipedia (English) or some other 'tutorial' sites, will probably lead you to another one. They'll start to fit together the more you read, but don't try and learn it all at once. Read, stop, believe, then go read again. Only a suggestion, but anyway...these are all to search in English, not sure if it's your preferred language. What is listed in parenthesis is something you might see as an abbreviation or slang.

Digital Audio Workstation (DAW)
Non-linear editing
Sequencer
Multi-track digital recording
Using loops (looping)
Making loops (sampling)
MIDI
VST (software synthesizer)
Step Sequencer (MIDI programming)
Beats Per Minute (BPM)
Key (of the music)
Equalization (EQ)
Frequency Map
Effects / Effects chain (ex: Compression, distortion, reverb, vocoder)
Mixdown / Rendering audio

If you're getting started and working pretty much from one machine and don't have inputs (a guitar, mic, etc) then the above list will probably fit your first exploration into production pretty good. Search videos based on what you believe you are starting to understand about your software. Be specific! Best of luck to you.
Ashirumatic DJ
04.03.2010
Some books I have picked up or am waiting for. These should help you out allot. I like to have books to go through to find new techniques or refresh those I already know to keep the creativity going.

Dance Music Manual
http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Music-Ma...7750779&sr=8-5

Composition - Computer Musician
http://www.amazon.com/Composition-Co...7750875&sr=8-1

Computer Music Magazine (Comes with interviews from todays top artists)
you can search on youtube for computer music/future music and watch a ton of these videos.
http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Music...7750875&sr=8-3

Music Theory for the Computer Musician
http://www.amazon.com/Music-Theory-C...7750875&sr=8-5

And last but not least

Composing Computer Music For Dummies
http://www.amazon.com/Composing-Digi...751032&sr=8-17
Shu Dietiker
04.03.2010
thanks to all of those who supported... was a big help
Jayne Yellowhair
04.03.2010
The best option might be to search individual words on Google or Wikipedia. That's how I learned the most..
Shu Dietiker
04.03.2010
yeah the video thing, i already figuered it out but except these terms... i'd like to know what for ex, a sampler, synthesiser, sampl rate...

I'd like to undertstand these things and in terms to define the in an easy way.

any idea?
Justin Annicchiarico
04.03.2010
Serch on youtube bud...there's ton of vids about logic basic tutorials from how to program the ultrabeat to more advanced stuff...I got logic myself but I rarely use it as I'm hooked to ableton live
Shu Dietiker
04.03.2010
thanks a lot for ur help jason. Big help.
is there anywhere i can find out "terms" or explaination of words somewhere?




and to the idiots...
i wasnt asking anyone to give me critizism... why i bought is none of ur business.... if u want to help than it would be nice of you and if not then there's no reason posting... the fact just shows how helpful you are to others and selfish u are!!!
Ashirumatic DJ
03.03.2010
Logic Tutorials
http://www.youtube.com/user/sflogicninja?blend=1&ob=4

and any other tutorials you may need

http://www.youtube.com

Where to buy books on the subject

http://www.amazon.com
robin loo
03.03.2010
you don't know any of the basics of music production and bought yourself this monster package?!

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