Compressor

Compressor
Posted on: 15.10.2010 by Roseanna Hascall
Ehy I am working on a new track. It has only two instrument but it seems to be like 20...so here is the problem: the sounds isn't clean. the drums and the bass simply merge each other and make so much confusion. I tried to use some compressor and limiter but that's not the way:somebody has a solution?
Leonardo Papajohn
15.10.2010
Originally Posted by Nephew
As far as the kick and low end, just some very simple mastering will make a world of difference. Just add a compressor, EQ (I prefer the EQ 8 myself) and then a basic mastering chain (Ableton 8 has one called "Neutral Mastering" that's easy to use and effective) on the master channel after you're finished mixing down the track and you kick and lows will sound that much better.

Obviously this won't be as good as a professional job, but it will be good enough to play out and shop around if you so desire.

But just remember, when using the Compressor, EQ and Mastering Chain on the master channel, LESS IS MORE.


And when EQing the kick with the bass, you just have to "dig holes" using the EQ on the bass and let the kick fill in the space, and vice versa. But you should be filtering out anything below 65hz to 55hz on the kick though as a starting point.

Example, lets say the kick is nice and punchy at around 93hz, you would scoop out that space on the bass then and let the punch from the kick fill in the space now, but with upper even harmonics you would then go to the kick at around 186hz and scoop that out and let the low/low mids from the bass fill that in.

In theory everything should be sitting nice and pretty now. And when mixing down, I would try and filter out everything below 180hz-200hz on ALL your tracks except the bass and kick or anything that should obviously have some low end on it. It will help clean up that lower end. And make sure you do it on everything, even your hi hats because you never know what was sampled and there still might be some rumble from the mic when it was recorded.

Cheers mate and best of luck
Hes right indeed, less is more.
Roseanna Hascall
15.10.2010
Ehy I am working on a new track. It has only two instrument but it seems to be like 20...so here is the problem: the sounds isn't clean. the drums and the bass simply merge each other and make so much confusion. I tried to use some compressor and limiter but that's not the way:somebody has a solution?
Leonardo Papajohn
15.10.2010
Originally Posted by Nephew
As far as the kick and low end, just some very simple mastering will make a world of difference. Just add a compressor, EQ (I prefer the EQ 8 myself) and then a basic mastering chain (Ableton 8 has one called "Neutral Mastering" that's easy to use and effective) on the master channel after you're finished mixing down the track and you kick and lows will sound that much better.

Obviously this won't be as good as a professional job, but it will be good enough to play out and shop around if you so desire.

But just remember, when using the Compressor, EQ and Mastering Chain on the master channel, LESS IS MORE.


And when EQing the kick with the bass, you just have to "dig holes" using the EQ on the bass and let the kick fill in the space, and vice versa. But you should be filtering out anything below 65hz to 55hz on the kick though as a starting point.

Example, lets say the kick is nice and punchy at around 93hz, you would scoop out that space on the bass then and let the punch from the kick fill in the space now, but with upper even harmonics you would then go to the kick at around 186hz and scoop that out and let the low/low mids from the bass fill that in.

In theory everything should be sitting nice and pretty now. And when mixing down, I would try and filter out everything below 180hz-200hz on ALL your tracks except the bass and kick or anything that should obviously have some low end on it. It will help clean up that lower end. And make sure you do it on everything, even your hi hats because you never know what was sampled and there still might be some rumble from the mic when it was recorded.

Cheers mate and best of luck
Hes right indeed, less is more.
Breana Singerman
15.10.2010
As far as the kick and low end, just some very simple mastering will make a world of difference. Just add a compressor, EQ (I prefer the EQ 8 myself) and then a basic mastering chain (Ableton 8 has one called "Neutral Mastering" that's easy to use and effective) on the master channel after you're finished mixing down the track and you kick and lows will sound that much better.

Obviously this won't be as good as a professional job, but it will be good enough to play out and shop around if you so desire.

But just remember, when using the Compressor, EQ and Mastering Chain on the master channel, LESS IS MORE.


And when EQing the kick with the bass, you just have to "dig holes" using the EQ on the bass and let the kick fill in the space, and vice versa. But you should be filtering out anything below 65hz to 55hz on the kick though as a starting point.

Example, lets say the kick is nice and punchy at around 93hz, you would scoop out that space on the bass then and let the punch from the kick fill in the space now, but with upper even harmonics you would then go to the kick at around 186hz and scoop that out and let the low/low mids from the bass fill that in.

In theory everything should be sitting nice and pretty now. And when mixing down, I would try and filter out everything below 180hz-200hz on ALL your tracks except the bass and kick or anything that should obviously have some low end on it. It will help clean up that lower end. And make sure you do it on everything, even your hi hats because you never know what was sampled and there still might be some rumble from the mic when it was recorded.

Cheers mate and best of luck
Leonardo Papajohn
15.10.2010
Look up some good articles on EQ, there are plenty of helpful ones out there.
I had some sites bookmarked on my home computer, if I get ahold of some I'll post em in here. But the best advice I can give on this is read, google tons of diff articles and read apply read and apply. I'm sure after doing your research, your mixdowns will improve over time with some practice.
robert chanda
16.10.2010
He's right. Work out what frequency range each sound is supposed to occupy and cut out the frequencies on that channel that shouldn't be heard using a lowpass, highpass or bandpass filter. The sounds will then sit nicely together and share the "soundstage" (what a poncy word).
Eloy Snopkowski
15.10.2010
you can put a side-chain compressor to compress the bass when there a hi-hat for example but i believe a clean EQ job like nephew said its the best way to go
Breana Singerman
15.10.2010
A compressor isn't going to clean that up, you need to EQ them to get them sitting together properly.

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