**Which One To Choose? Logic or Ableton???**
**Which One To Choose? Logic or Ableton???** Posted on: 23.06.2011 by Candy Vardy Hey guys, so I've finally decided to take the plunge into the Production side of the musical realm, but I can't decide which program to buy! I've been doing my research on music production programs, and from all of them out there, (Cubase, Reason, FL, Pro Tools, Logic, Ableton) I'm torn between either getting Logic or Ableton. I've checked out the diferences and pro's and con's, and they both seem to be top notch. Everybody rates them as excellent programs. So whci one? Ok so let me first say I'm primarily going to creating EDM, and I'm looking at getting something thats intuitive failry easy to learn and fun to use. Hopefully in the future after practicing and learning for a while I'd like to produce EDM that sounds professional not amature. So what program out the 2 in your OP will do that for me? Any comments and opinions are welcome! Thanks guys! | |
| Candy Vardy 06.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Dorie Scelzo 24.06.2011 | Why I believe I can comment: I've used a lot of software. At one point, when I was shopping for a DAW, I demo'd just about everything that would work on a Mac: Pro Tools LE, Logic, Ableton Live, Cubase, Digital Performer, Reason, and a couple that I've forgotten. Since then, I've also used Pro Tools HD, Renoise, Reaper, Ardour, and Record. Why you should take what I say with a grain of salt: I haven't produced anything of note, just some bootleg remixes that I was kinda happy with and some original stuff that's never quite done until I get sick of it and start something else. The top 3, for me, hands down are Logic, Pro Tools, and Ableton Live, not necessarily in that order. You're not asking about Pro Tools, so I'll ignore it. Ableton is the DAW that I have the most experience with by far, but it's not currently installed on my system. I believe it's perfectly valid for DJing, and it's great for playing live. Some people love it for production. Personally, I believe it takes forever to do anything. It doesn't have score-based midi composition, a feature I really like. Its signal routing is different from basically everything else out there, which has both its perks and problems. I don't believe it handles 3rd party plugins |
| Candy Vardy 24.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Whyte
Originally Posted by JazZmutant
Ableton sounds a little but better though. |
| Candy Vardy 23.06.2011 | Hey guys, so I've finally decided to take the plunge into the Production side of the musical realm, but I can't decide which program to buy! I've been doing my research on music production programs, and from all of them out there, (Cubase, Reason, FL, Pro Tools, Logic, Ableton) I'm torn between either getting Logic or Ableton. I've checked out the diferences and pro's and con's, and they both seem to be top notch. Everybody rates them as excellent programs. So whci one? Ok so let me first say I'm primarily going to creating EDM, and I'm looking at getting something thats intuitive failry easy to learn and fun to use. Hopefully in the future after practicing and learning for a while I'd like to produce EDM that sounds professional not amature. So what program out the 2 in your OP will do that for me? Any comments and opinions are welcome! Thanks guys! |
| Randal Biza 06.07.2011 | Ableton Live because of the session view. Makes it more like an instrument for me, especially with the Launchpad. |
| Brent Dierken 07.07.2011 | I am going to chip in with a vote for Ableton. Although I admit I don't use Logic, I've got a lot of respect for the app and the producers that use it. It might just be me but I see a lot more resources and tutorials (videos / blogs/ producer homepages) for ableton available online if that's something you are interested in. (although again to be fair you can transfer general sound engineering / production skills across software) I love the way you can build up racks of instruments and effects in ableton after a while it seems so simple yet so powerful and flexible. in conclusion I am 60% in favour of Ableton |
| Jaymie Rothbard 06.07.2011 | i wouldnt let the fact you use a mac sway your decision. i use ableton on mac at work and pc at home and its great on both (and i like the fact i can use it on both OS) out of all the things you said on the original post ableton covers those the best: quick to learn, fun and pro sounding also a thing to consider is you can integrate ableton into your dj'ing setup at the end of the day just play with the demos and see what you like the most, i know producers releasing stuff using fruity loops, its what you feel most comfortable with... id say live intro would be a cheap way to get started with an upgrade path to the full version... |
| Candy Vardy 06.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by MiL0
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| Arcelia Siebeneck 28.06.2011 | Cubase. |
| Candy Vardy 28.06.2011 | So I've been checking checking online some more and I believe I might be leaning towards Logic at the moment. I'm using a MBP at the moment so in a way it just seems logical? |
| Riccardo gava 26.06.2011 | I've used both, Ableton is much better for me. I find you can throw down ideas a lot lot faster and the whole workflow is just more intuitive! You can make good sounding stuff in either, it's just a case of which you find most comfortable and FUN to use! so, demo them and find out ftw.... |
| Candy Vardy 25.06.2011 | ^^^^^ Thanks bud, yeah it seems that it basically boils down to personal preference. I've been doing more research online and they both come across as professional DAW's that say they can pretty much do all what you want it to. The biggest difference I see is that Ableton costs more $$$. If I believe or am persuaded that Ableton is probably the better option, then I really don't mind paying that little but extra, I mean thats what I did when I bought my S4. Well I'm not sold yet, so I guess I'll just keep digging.. Cheers. |
| Marylou Harney 25.06.2011 | Yup, this question is going to spit the room every time. For example Mostapha makes a load of excellent points, but the "I believe it takes forever to do anything." part about Ableton almost made me spit out my cornflakes, as for me personally that's Ableton's biggest strength by a country mile, how quick and easy it is to get ideas down. But then of couse this is all just IMO, and no doubt Mostapha and I have different workflows/requirements etc and herein lies the problem! For my work I regularly use all the other DAWs, I just had to do a full track in both Cubase and FL Studio for example, and I found the whole exercise frustrating, but I have to be conscious that that's probably because I use Ableton every day and know it inside out, a Cubase user might believe the same in reverse. I went for Ableton based on research and trial, and have never looked back, but it might not be the same for you. Not much help all this I admit ha ha, but just to get perspective on how it really is personal preference. |
| Candy Vardy 24.06.2011 | Wow.. Thanks mostapha for that very insightful and informative post. You seem to know a lot more than I do, even some of what you said I don't understand. I'm sure though as I learn the software I'll also learn the different terms. you see this is where I get more confused. So many people swear by both, its hard to choose. I'm not worried about price really, I just want a quality program thats gonna do what I want it too, and make whats in my head come into reality professionally. I will be doing a music production course for sure once I've bought whichever program I choose. Thanks again for your post mate. |
| Dorie Scelzo 24.06.2011 | Why I believe I can comment: I've used a lot of software. At one point, when I was shopping for a DAW, I demo'd just about everything that would work on a Mac: Pro Tools LE, Logic, Ableton Live, Cubase, Digital Performer, Reason, and a couple that I've forgotten. Since then, I've also used Pro Tools HD, Renoise, Reaper, Ardour, and Record. Why you should take what I say with a grain of salt: I haven't produced anything of note, just some bootleg remixes that I was kinda happy with and some original stuff that's never quite done until I get sick of it and start something else. The top 3, for me, hands down are Logic, Pro Tools, and Ableton Live, not necessarily in that order. You're not asking about Pro Tools, so I'll ignore it. Ableton is the DAW that I have the most experience with by far, but it's not currently installed on my system. I believe it's perfectly valid for DJing, and it's great for playing live. Some people love it for production. Personally, I believe it takes forever to do anything. It doesn't have score-based midi composition, a feature I really like. Its signal routing is different from basically everything else out there, which has both its perks and problems. I don't believe it handles 3rd party plugins |
| Candy Vardy 24.06.2011 |
Originally Posted by Whyte
Originally Posted by JazZmutant
Ableton sounds a little but better though. |
| Azucena Minks 24.06.2011 | I use both. I use Ableton more than logic though, say 70/30% split. Both have their pro's and con's. A lot of professionals use features from both and then import everything into their preferred DAW for workflow purposes etc. I was undecided which one i wanted more.. so i got lite 8 and logic express, used them both, still couldn't settle on one, so i upgraded both haha What I have noticed from using both is that recording my own samples, vocals and any original raw sound, Logic is my weapon of choice. However, if your just remixing and using downloaded samples and instruments then Ableton takes the cake there. Ableton is definitely the choice if your going down a pure electronic music path. The flexibility and versatility it has is great and it can be used for sooooo much! But for more original sounds/recordings/compositions, Logic is a bit more logical The latest version of GarageBand has a lot of features from Logic, made easier to use of course. Cant wait for the next major Logic update |
| Granville Rossa 23.06.2011 | Download the demos for sure.... Pick the one that makes the most sense to you and fits your workflow. I use Ableton but only because I don't have a mac, Logic is also a great DAW although I haven't had so much time with it, it just depends how they work for you. |
| Shana Minsk 23.06.2011 | I prefer Ableton, but that's what I learnt on. Never really got the hang of Logic when I had a mac. Bit confusing for me. |
| Detra Girardier 23.06.2011 | Download the available trials and try them out both. Personal preference is the key |
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