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song structure - Noob - How to make a song "kick in" Posted on: 26.07.2011 by Nilda Eastgate Hi everybody -I really am a noob at music production but have been fiddling with ableton for while now. I have followed some tutorials but I still cant get my songs to "kick in" They all end up sounding like "minimal songs" I have a few ideas of what i need to do - but im just really confused - Like do I need more synths or change the beat or another layer of drums ? Here is something I made quickly by sampling an old song and putting a drum loop over it - (daft punk style-ish) http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/71808704/file.html Its only the first 26 seconds because i dont know how to make it kick in ? Just looking for some opinions really im such a noob but I really want to get into making music - thanks | |
| Kenton Almeyda 31.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by AdamPollard55
1) grooving grooving along and building... 2) oh.. hey.. it stripped down a little... something's happening.. 3) oh snap!!! it happened!!! it got EVEN BETTAR!! !!! AWESOMER !!! |
| Stanley Topoleski 26.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by CONNtrol
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| Stanley Topoleski 26.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by CONNtrol
and that is a 5 year difference. i don't really have my very first stuff online anymore, but thats pretty close |
| Monserrate Rupnow 23.08.2011 | Thanks, here's a new one sort of along those lines, just posted today: http://tarekith.com/common-arrangement-issues/ |
| Nilda Eastgate 23.08.2011 | Thank you everybody for the help Tarekith I especially found those articles you wrote very useful and interesting ! |
| Jacqulyn Cruson 19.08.2011 | I like that latest track! Although I believe I would like it a lot more with the kick being less clicky and more boomy |
| Monserrate Rupnow 19.08.2011 | Try these tips: http://tarekith.com/assets/arranging.html http://tarekith.com/assets/transitions.html |
| Aracely Mcalvey 18.08.2011 | Filters can really help you scale back a sound, then slowly bring it up, during a build up. Same with tasteful reverb and delay....gives it that "this sound is far away and slowly coming to blow my face off" feel. |
| Kenton Almeyda 31.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by AdamPollard55
1) grooving grooving along and building... 2) oh.. hey.. it stripped down a little... something's happening.. 3) oh snap!!! it happened!!! it got EVEN BETTAR!! !!! AWESOMER !!! |
| Nilda Eastgate 28.07.2011 | Thanks for the help im really getting into it now! Been analysing songs when i listen to them and listening out for all the small bits that come together. Gonna keep on practising and im sure I will be asking many questions along the way ^_^ |
| Krishna Hospelhorn 27.07.2011 | a few things that will probably change when a song "kicks in" (or "drops") (or when the "hook" starts) - the track will be/sound louder - drums might change - new/more elements so the track feel more full - the "catchy" bit (called the 'hook') starts different genres tend to build tension and release tension (the drop) in different ways, so unless you have you own ideas, or give an example of a specific genre, I can't give any really specific tips. |
| Stanley Topoleski 27.07.2011 | haha i hear ya |
| Nilda Eastgate 27.07.2011 | i need to spend a lot more time tbh before i upload anything properly. haha ones I have made so far are shocking lol |
| Stanley Topoleski 26.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by CONNtrol
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| Nilda Eastgate 26.07.2011 | ah right cool I shall look forward to it |
| Stanley Topoleski 26.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by CONNtrol
and that is a 5 year difference. i don't really have my very first stuff online anymore, but thats pretty close |
| Nilda Eastgate 26.07.2011 | Wow thanks for the links - them tutorials look good - I can see a massive improvement in your songs - your first one was pretty good though How long after starting learning did you make that ? Your latest one is absolutely amazing!!!!! (your new biggest fan haha) Its so good - are you on beatport by any chance ? would love that song in my collection |
| Stanley Topoleski 26.07.2011 |
Originally Posted by CONNtrol
i eventually found and stuck with ableton and just messed around with every aspect of it until i learned. a great resource to use is artists house music also a great dj/producier airbase has loads of ableton tutorials i went from this [ame="http://www.amazon.com/In-The-Begining/dp/B001QSKNRU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1311724067&sr=1-6"]Amazon.com: In The Begining: Calgar C: MP3 Downloads@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HwE9tk8CL.@@AMEPARAM@@51HwE9tk8CL[/ame] (really bad music) to this http://soundcloud.com/calgar_c/foundations |
| Lang Abriel 26.07.2011 | Hell yes nujabes...I loved his stuff when I was yonger. Gonna go find it on my 6 year old ipod |
| Nilda Eastgate 26.07.2011 | calgarc did you teach yourself ?? Do most people teach themselves off videos and stuff? |
| Nilda Eastgate 26.07.2011 | Yeah Im in it for the long run cannot wait to finish my first song lol |
| Stanley Topoleski 26.07.2011 | it took me almost 7 years to get my productions right. It takes time. just keep at it |
| Nilda Eastgate 26.07.2011 | Thank you Yeah I have noticed actually how well the one loop thing works ( high life by daft punk for example) And I love fatboy slim. It does seem stressful learning but im gonna keep plodding on in my spare time and eventually I will find the perfect loop ^_^ thanks |
26.07.2011 | you can build a song around one loop. take fatboy slim for example, or the (sadly deceased, great talent IMO) nujabes. it takes a lot of hard practice and effort though. just don't be discouraged and continue. no one has become a great producer overevening . |
| Nilda Eastgate 26.07.2011 | I guess the main question is how I can keep it interesting throughout ? change the loop completely? |
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