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| USB Headphones Hey all, I'm very new to producing music (started with FL last week, now learning Live) and was believeing about buying a Arturia 25 key Keyboard Controller I saw in a thread a few days ago. My only problem is the latency that I get when I'm using my actual usb keyboard. I want to be able to play on the MIDI Keyboard without any delay when I'm pressing they keys down, and a friend told me if my soundcard wasn't very good I could get a good set of USB Headphones that would make a big difference. Anyway, here are a few questions...
1.) Will a good usb headset give me lag free playing with said Keyboard Controller?
2.) If so, what would a good one be?
3.) If not, what should I do about it?
Thanks
~ K1K0 | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Sumiko Cohoon
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by koffa
An external soundcard will minimize your latency. If you're on Windows it will utilize ASIO which is relatively latence free. Guess this is due to the higher processing power of more professional grade soundcards than crap onboard soundcards (someone might have to debunk or confirm that notion...). So a good external soundcard will lower your latency.
Okay I figured out that my problem was that I wasn't using ASIO as my driver type haha. So playing out of some LG speakers sounds alright, but I'm still looking to get some headphones that will pair well with them. So far this is what I ordered...
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VIGL2U/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details"]Amazon.com: M-Audio Oxygen 49 USB MIDI Controller: Musical Instruments@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41LEAfabeqL.@@AMEPARAM@@41LEAfabeqL[/ame]
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B000065BPB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321557360&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: Sennheiser Pro Headphones: Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rMgNhHPsL.@@AMEPARAM@@41rMgNhHPsL[/ame]
Think I'm off to a good start? :P | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Just watched a review. Looks epic, but I don't really understand how external sound cards work :S I'll do some more research, but if you could explain how I could use it with Live and how it would make producing dubstep more efficient that would be awesome!
An external soundcard will minimize your latency. If you're on Windows it will utilize ASIO which is relatively latence free. Guess this is due to the higher processing power of more professional grade soundcards than crap onboard soundcards (someone might have to debunk or confirm that notion...). So a good external soundcard will lower your latency. | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Gryz
NI Audio 2
Just watched a review. Looks epic, but I don't really understand how external sound cards work :S I'll do some more research, but if you could explain how I could use it with Live and how it would make producing dubstep more efficient that would be awesome! | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
You should invest some of that money earmarked for headphones and buy an external sound card.
Sorry, I should rephrase what I'm looking for. I want ANY way to play a MIDI Controller without any lag through the keys, but I want it to sound good too. Basically I'll pay for headphones/soundcard/external soundcard if I have to but I dont quite know what I need yet haha. So why would I do that, benefits and such. And what would a good kind be? | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Towner
Just grab Sony 7506's,sennheisers hd280/600
I looked them up and the reviews were nice, I believe I'll get the 280 pro when I order my Arturia.
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to mention that one of my friends who has been producing music for a few years now told me that instead of buying a new soundcard I could get a good set of USB headphones and it would do the same thing.
I ran dxdiag but couldn't really find any useful information on my soundcard Here's what I got so far...
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
Processor: AMD Athlon 7550 Dual-Core Processor, 2.5GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
So when I click on my sound tab I get...
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio)
~and~
Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
And just a USB Keyboard. If anyone has advice on finding out my Sound Card I'll do what they tell me, but I'm about to open up my pc and see if I can find something out myself... | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 | Hey all, I'm very new to producing music (started with FL last week, now learning Live) and was believeing about buying a Arturia 25 key Keyboard Controller I saw in a thread a few days ago. My only problem is the latency that I get when I'm using my actual usb keyboard. I want to be able to play on the MIDI Keyboard without any delay when I'm pressing they keys down, and a friend told me if my soundcard wasn't very good I could get a good set of USB Headphones that would make a big difference. Anyway, here are a few questions...
1.) Will a good usb headset give me lag free playing with said Keyboard Controller?
2.) If so, what would a good one be?
3.) If not, what should I do about it?
Thanks
~ K1K0 | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Oh, so you own a ASIO enabled soundcard? Which one? If it's decent I'd say yeah, that's a pretty good start. You must learn your headphones though. You'll be surprised how different a song will sound/feel in different sound setups. Since I can't afford really good monitors, I usually mix through my headphones and my hi-fi system, then when something sounds decent I place my song on a USB-stick/CD and whenever I go to a friend with a good sound setup (know a few audio engineers with great monitors/speaker setups) I have a listen through their system and take notes. After that I remix/remaster a bit and have a tinker, then I go back, see if it sounds better. After that I try to play my song in as many venues as possible, clubs before opening, friends car etc. to make sure it sounds good on both big and small systems. Just a tip from me, I'm sure other people have a different way of going about it but I believe this ensures that my mix will sound decent even in small audio setups...
Just on a side note, which I might get crap from experienced producers etc., isn't it better that your song sounds good in the system most people will hear it in? Ie. at home on half-decent hifis then your | Sumiko Cohoon
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by koffa
An external soundcard will minimize your latency. If you're on Windows it will utilize ASIO which is relatively latence free. Guess this is due to the higher processing power of more professional grade soundcards than crap onboard soundcards (someone might have to debunk or confirm that notion...). So a good external soundcard will lower your latency.
Okay I figured out that my problem was that I wasn't using ASIO as my driver type haha. So playing out of some LG speakers sounds alright, but I'm still looking to get some headphones that will pair well with them. So far this is what I ordered...
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VIGL2U/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details"]Amazon.com: M-Audio Oxygen 49 USB MIDI Controller: Musical Instruments@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41LEAfabeqL.@@AMEPARAM@@41LEAfabeqL[/ame]
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B000065BPB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321557360&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: Sennheiser Pro Headphones: Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rMgNhHPsL.@@AMEPARAM@@41rMgNhHPsL[/ame]
Think I'm off to a good start? :P | Queen Sichel
18.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by K1ng K0bra
Just watched a review. Looks epic, but I don't really understand how external sound cards work :S I'll do some more research, but if you could explain how I could use it with Live and how it would make producing dubstep more efficient that would be awesome!
An external soundcard will minimize your latency. If you're on Windows it will utilize ASIO which is relatively latence free. Guess this is due to the higher processing power of more professional grade soundcards than crap onboard soundcards (someone might have to debunk or confirm that notion...). So a good external soundcard will lower your latency. | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Gryz
NI Audio 2
Just watched a review. Looks epic, but I don't really understand how external sound cards work :S I'll do some more research, but if you could explain how I could use it with Live and how it would make producing dubstep more efficient that would be awesome! | Alexandra Nerby
17.11.2011 | NI Audio 2 | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
You should invest some of that money earmarked for headphones and buy an external sound card.
Sorry, I should rephrase what I'm looking for. I want ANY way to play a MIDI Controller without any lag through the keys, but I want it to sound good too. Basically I'll pay for headphones/soundcard/external soundcard if I have to but I dont quite know what I need yet haha. So why would I do that, benefits and such. And what would a good kind be? | Leeanna Ayla
17.11.2011 | You should invest some of that money earmarked for headphones and buy an external sound card. | Sumiko Cohoon
17.11.2011 |
Originally Posted by Towner
Just grab Sony 7506's,sennheisers hd280/600
I looked them up and the reviews were nice, I believe I'll get the 280 pro when I order my Arturia.
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to mention that one of my friends who has been producing music for a few years now told me that instead of buying a new soundcard I could get a good set of USB headphones and it would do the same thing.
I ran dxdiag but couldn't really find any useful information on my soundcard Here's what I got so far...
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
Processor: AMD Athlon 7550 Dual-Core Processor, 2.5GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
So when I click on my sound tab I get...
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio)
~and~
Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
And just a USB Keyboard. If anyone has advice on finding out my Sound Card I'll do what they tell me, but I'm about to open up my pc and see if I can find something out myself... | Leeanna Ayla
17.11.2011 | Yeah your headphones are not what's causing the latency it's your probably sound card. Give us more info on your set up. | Asuncion Osorto
17.11.2011 | Ya I'm confused on this one
I have no idea how USB headphones could reduce latency but i wouldnt go that route anyways
Just grab Sony 7506's,sennheisers hd280/600, Google the subject and you will info. But the key to producing with headphones is knowing how each headphone replicates sound. Some headphones create a higher midrange or sound unnatural. So something may sound great in your headphones but completely a large system or any system.
I would change your question as to why you are getting latency
Give computer/keyboard specs. Might get you a better answer | Queen Sichel
17.11.2011 | Why would you like USB headphones? I'd suggest a decent sound card and headphones. |
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