Looking for guidance on where to start
Looking for guidance on where to start Posted on: 09.06.2012 by Karleen Totz Hey all, looking for some guidance on producing music and where to start. Short background: got an s4 recently, started mixing alot with my roommate, love it, and now I want to try and get into production. Got a trial for ableton and was very overwhelmed by everything and didn't really know where to start so I started doing lots of research online about ableton tutorials as well as other production softwares. lately, i've been trying to figure out if maschine or ableton would fit my needs better and after reading many different community s on ableton vs maschine i still can't really seem to figure out the difference so I have come to the DJTT community s seeking some guidance from you all. It seems like many people use both and they each have their own strengths and weaknesses but i still feel pretty confused about everything What I'm going for: I really just want to get a good start into production and find a software/hardware combination that allows me to produce all different types of electronic music. So, with all that said, is there a clear winner that would better suit my needs as an aspiring producer, or do they each have production capabilities with different strengths and weaknesses as I have read already? Sorry if this has been asked before, but again, I tried googling this topic and didn't really feel like I got a definitive answer. | |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Yukiko Beauvil 13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by psyEDk
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| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Karleen Totz 09.06.2012 | Hey all, looking for some guidance on producing music and where to start. Short background: got an s4 recently, started mixing alot with my roommate, love it, and now I want to try and get into production. Got a trial for ableton and was very overwhelmed by everything and didn't really know where to start so I started doing lots of research online about ableton tutorials as well as other production softwares. lately, i've been trying to figure out if maschine or ableton would fit my needs better and after reading many different community s on ableton vs maschine i still can't really seem to figure out the difference so I have come to the DJTT community s seeking some guidance from you all. It seems like many people use both and they each have their own strengths and weaknesses but i still feel pretty confused about everything What I'm going for: I really just want to get a good start into production and find a software/hardware combination that allows me to produce all different types of electronic music. So, with all that said, is there a clear winner that would better suit my needs as an aspiring producer, or do they each have production capabilities with different strengths and weaknesses as I have read already? Sorry if this has been asked before, but again, I tried googling this topic and didn't really feel like I got a definitive answer. |
| Yukiko Beauvil 13.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by psyEDk
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| Saran Sprinkel 13.06.2012 | Majority of universities and community colleges only cover recording aspects of the production process, I agree to that sentiment. Not every school approaches "learning" the same. For example, in Audyolab we let students test drive the first week of the course before committing. It's up to the student to validate if the course is worth his earned dollar and time. I see it like learning martial arts: Students learn specific techniques from their sensei, they package their techniques and create combo moves. After developing their combos, they create their own style and become masters themselves. Before starting our school, I interviewed 86 and surveyed 102 local students for pain points about production. Surprisingly money came down 3 in the list of issues. The first issue/pain point for them is learning from an experienced producer in a supportive ecosystem. Second was how to effectively sell their music and get gigs. We built programs that is is custom tailored to their needs and hired instructors who are know their stuff. We are iterating our programs as we grow. The pricing aspect is hard to validate if you haven't tried any of their products. Plus the internet has made it easy for producers to hack their way in to doing things for free, the end result is a half ass job. Look; how much time do you spend learning new music production techniques? New plugins? DAW interface and shortcuts? Critical listening in a controlled environment? Reading about successful producer and their production techniques? Testing gear? Constructive feedback? Acquiring and retaining fans? Dealing or starting a record label? Time is the most valuable asset we have. You can lose and make money, but you can never make up lost time. |
| Rochel Gleese 13.06.2012 | I'd buy Maschine, comes with heaps of samples and ties into your doing quite easily plus can be used as an add on controller for the S4. Other than that pick one DAW (my suggestion would be Ableton and it's 33% off at the moment, learn that inside out before buying any extra plugins. That's one hell of a potent combination |
| Dorie Scelzo 13.06.2012 | I'm not convinced. I've taken some recording & media production classes at university…and they're all insanely basic. Recording schools are expensive as hell and often times a complete joke. And some of the courses are ridiculous. Dubspot's prices are stupid high considering that Endo (their product specialist for NI) doesn't seem to understand the first thing about gain staging and constantly does things that are basically just wrong. Maybe their production stuff is better, but it doesn't bode well. The problem with courses is that it's really easy to charge for a crappy one because no one knows the difference if they're in the market. |
| Saran Sprinkel 12.06.2012 | I suggest taking online classes or go to a local school. Structured knowledge is more efficient and rewarding than hacking your way trying to learn every plugin, DAW, technique and what not. Blogged about it extensively here |
| Estella Waber 11.06.2012 | FL Studio might be a good starting point. Neat simple UI but a world of power hidden away in there! http://www.image-line.com/documents/flstudio.html |
| Dorie Scelzo 10.06.2012 | There has never been, is not, and will never be a clear winner. The differences are mainly in how you work in different environments and how well you like them. My suggestion is to watch tutorial videos for every piece of software out there, and if one of them seems to make more sense than the others |
| Tonisha Rayman 09.06.2012 | ableton3030.dubspot.com youtube.com ableton.com/movies I suggest ableton since maschine at this time isn't a standalone daw. |
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