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Need help pitch shifting vocals in Logic 9
Posted on: 18.06.2012 by Joya Masi
Friends,

I am trying to mash up an acapella with another track. The acapella is in G# and the other track is in G minor. I am using the pitch corrector plugin and have put in the the root + scale as G natural minor scale. I've realized this is simply filtering out notes instead of changing the actual pitch. So how do I change the pitch from G# to G minor, say in pitch shifter II? thanks
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Joya Masi
19.06.2012
Mos,

Thank you for such a detailed answer, it was more than I was expecting! Soooo I tried the Melodyne demo, and it confirmed a suspicion of mine that the acapella was actually in a different scale (Bb) from Mixed in Key's detection. So what I did was I dropped the acapella 3 semitones via Pitch Shifter II, and applied some warping FX to come up with something which sounds harmonically pleasing.

Having said that, I intend to buy Melodyne when I can afford it, because it's really worth it like you said, very intuitive. Cheers again for the advice!

Originally Posted by mostapha
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift…you kinda just have to listen for it unless you can get an Audio -> MIDI extraction to work.

And then you're basically putting in crossfades to make it sound halfway natural.

There might be an easier way to do it that I'm not aware of, but there's a reason AutoTune and Melodyne cost what they do.
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift
Joya Masi
18.06.2012
Friends,

I am trying to mash up an acapella with another track. The acapella is in G# and the other track is in G minor. I am using the pitch corrector plugin and have put in the the root + scale as G natural minor scale. I've realized this is simply filtering out notes instead of changing the actual pitch. So how do I change the pitch from G# to G minor, say in pitch shifter II? thanks
Dorie Scelzo
19.06.2012
Awesome. Yeah…I didn't realize that you got the key from MiK. I probably would have suggested just playing with it for a while…I haven't found it to be anywhere near accurate enough to be used in a production environment.

There is at least one DAW that has melodyne (or something very much like it) integrated into it. Might be worth a try as well. I want to say it's one or more of Nuendo, Cubase, or Studio One 2 (they're all made by Steinberg, afaik despite that one is sold by Presonus).

And melodyne really is cool. The polyphonic version can look inside chords and move around individual notes. It actually works remarkably well a lot of the time. Unfortunately, the only copy I have legit access to is a really old monophonic version…still really cool for what it does.
Joya Masi
19.06.2012
Mos,

Thank you for such a detailed answer, it was more than I was expecting! Soooo I tried the Melodyne demo, and it confirmed a suspicion of mine that the acapella was actually in a different scale (Bb) from Mixed in Key's detection. So what I did was I dropped the acapella 3 semitones via Pitch Shifter II, and applied some warping FX to come up with something which sounds harmonically pleasing.

Having said that, I intend to buy Melodyne when I can afford it, because it's really worth it like you said, very intuitive. Cheers again for the advice!

Originally Posted by mostapha
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift…you kinda just have to listen for it unless you can get an Audio -> MIDI extraction to work.

And then you're basically putting in crossfades to make it sound halfway natural.

There might be an easier way to do it that I'm not aware of, but there's a reason AutoTune and Melodyne cost what they do.
Dorie Scelzo
18.06.2012
I'm not familiar with the pitch corrector. The first time I saw it, I assumed that it worked like Auto Tune and ignored it.

Probably the best idea: http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.ph...roducts_editor
Along those lines: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune-7.shtml

The only other way I can believe of to do it is to shift the whole thing down a semitone (and render it) and then go note by note, separating notes that aren't in G(nat)m (3rd, 6th, and 7th scale degrees) and shifting them down another semitone.

As far as finding which notes to shift

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