"Beat Lights" - can this be done with the VCI-100 SE?!

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"Beat Lights" - can this be done with the VCI-100 SE?!
Posted on: 29.08.2008 by Daniel McCoy
Hi,

Please check out this thread:

http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...ad.php?t=69801

or the Youtube-video mentioned in that thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob_CNZ9B7_0


I find this rather interesting. Apparently there's a "Deck beat phase monitor" that has been introduced with Traktor 3.4 - any thoughts on this?!
Xavier Emanuels
24.09.2008
Originally Posted by McRossi
The other issue I was having was the loss of secondary lights for the beat lights as well as the Cue lights (not the lights that are constant, just the lights that show the beat or that a button is activated). This happens randomly. Powering the unit off and back on fixes the issue, but it will eventually happen again. Anyone experiencing that one?
The "secondary" light uses the same principle as the "primary" light - traktor is sending midi on and off notes to the lights - its just in secondary mode traktor is sending note on/off notes more frequently.
Hannes Deburchgraeve
23.09.2008
Originally Posted by Flaekiface
I havent tried out the beat light feature and anyway I have the fluttering problem as well on my SE.

Anybody found a solution to this problem?
I'm sure Vestax is right on the virge of fixing this. (LOL)

...but seriously, anybody found a solution?
Irving Delgado
02.09.2008
Originally Posted by 4nT1
anyone find the preferred settings for the vci-100.. i seemed to have gotten it to work for a bit using the sync button and play button but not there is nothing.. every white coloured light though is flickering slightly.. like a christmas tree.. not sure if its good for the unit so i will turn it off and wait until further instruction
I was wondering about that as well. When doing certain things with the vci-100 all the lights will flicker slightly. If you use the sync buttons in trigger mode instead of hold mode you can see it as well.

Does anybody know the probable cause of this issue and a way to fix it?
Irving Delgado
30.08.2008
Originally Posted by McRossi
I agree with the exception of Guust-Fi's comment about adjusting the Controller range option. The controller range affects the amount of time the light is on for the beat. The first number controls how long before (negative number) the beat, the light is on and the second number for how long during and after the beat the light stays on (positive number). So for accuracy you should set the first number to 0 so that the light turns on as the beat hits. If you use a positive number, the light in fact comes on after the beat has already hit.
And for shortness of the light's duration (can be a preference you add in the second number. I have found 0 and 1096 to work accurately and to not drag on too long.
I was believeing about that in my bed as well . I corrected it...
Daniel McCoy
29.08.2008		Hi,

Please check out this thread:

http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...ad.php?t=69801

or the Youtube-video mentioned in that thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob_CNZ9B7_0


I find this rather interesting. Apparently there's a "Deck beat phase monitor" that has been introduced with Traktor 3.4 - any thoughts on this?!
samir abu-sharar
24.09.2008		Anyone care to post a "recap" of the instructions to use under VCI?
Xavier Emanuels
24.09.2008
Originally Posted by McRossi
The other issue I was having was the loss of secondary lights for the beat lights as well as the Cue lights (not the lights that are constant, just the lights that show the beat or that a button is activated). This happens randomly. Powering the unit off and back on fixes the issue, but it will eventually happen again. Anyone experiencing that one?
The "secondary" light uses the same principle as the "primary" light - traktor is sending midi on and off notes to the lights - its just in secondary mode traktor is sending note on/off notes more frequently.
Tommi Lahtinen
23.09.2008		The other issue I was having was the loss of secondary lights for the beat lights as well as the Cue lights (not the lights that are constant, just the lights that show the beat or that a button is activated). This happens randomly. Powering the unit off and back on fixes the issue, but it will eventually happen again. Anyone experiencing that one?
Xavier Emanuels
23.09.2008		I noticed this bug when establishing a link between Bomes and the VCI 1.1 firmware - it appears sending midi on/off notes to LED's will cause all of the lights on the VCI to flutter a little bit, especially when you are sending out the notes frequently- an example of this is making a light turn on and off.

Its hardly set breaking but is kinda annoying, i am 99% sure there is not a fix for this unless we can reverse engineer the firmware to correct the problem inside of the code where the problem exists.

Sorry guys, just going to have to live with it for the time being
Hannes Deburchgraeve
23.09.2008
Originally Posted by Flaekiface
I havent tried out the beat light feature and anyway I have the fluttering problem as well on my SE.

Anybody found a solution to this problem?
I'm sure Vestax is right on the virge of fixing this. (LOL)

...but seriously, anybody found a solution?
casey rascal
23.09.2008		I havent tried out the beat light feature and anyway I have the fluttering problem as well on my SE.

Anybody found a solution to this problem?
Hannes Deburchgraeve
16.09.2008		I have the same fluttering in my unit as well. I noticed that the beat lights don't like to be assigned to the play button either. I had to pick on of the other buttons which is fine... but still get that annoying fluttering all over the place.
Tommi Lahtinen
02.09.2008		I am getting the same results of fluttering lights on my VCI-100 SE. I have also noticed that sometimes the secondary lights stop working all together after a couple songs. So when I hit cue, that light no longer works as well as the designated beat lights. Pretty strange.
I do not believe it is a voltage issue either, I am using a power supply with my unit.
Irving Delgado
02.09.2008
Originally Posted by 4nT1
anyone find the preferred settings for the vci-100.. i seemed to have gotten it to work for a bit using the sync button and play button but not there is nothing.. every white coloured light though is flickering slightly.. like a christmas tree.. not sure if its good for the unit so i will turn it off and wait until further instruction
I was wondering about that as well. When doing certain things with the vci-100 all the lights will flicker slightly. If you use the sync buttons in trigger mode instead of hold mode you can see it as well.

Does anybody know the probable cause of this issue and a way to fix it?
Adil Laresh
02.09.2008		anyone find the preferred settings for the vci-100.. i seemed to have gotten it to work for a bit using the sync button and play button but not there is nothing.. every white coloured light though is flickering slightly.. like a christmas tree.. not sure if its good for the unit so i will turn it off and wait until further instruction
Xavier Emanuels
31.08.2008		Nice find, would indeed make a good post
Irving Delgado
30.08.2008
Originally Posted by McRossi
I agree with the exception of Guust-Fi's comment about adjusting the Controller range option. The controller range affects the amount of time the light is on for the beat. The first number controls how long before (negative number) the beat, the light is on and the second number for how long during and after the beat the light stays on (positive number). So for accuracy you should set the first number to 0 so that the light turns on as the beat hits. If you use a positive number, the light in fact comes on after the beat has already hit.
And for shortness of the light's duration (can be a preference you add in the second number. I have found 0 and 1096 to work accurately and to not drag on too long.
I was believeing about that in my bed as well . I corrected it...
Tommi Lahtinen
29.08.2008		I agree with the exception of Guust-Fi's comment about adjusting the Controller range option. The controller range affects the amount of time the light is on for the beat. The first number controls how long before (negative number) the beat, the light is on and the second number for how long during and after the beat the light stays on (positive number). So for accuracy you should set the first number to 0 so that the light turns on as the beat hits. If you use a positive number, the light in fact comes on after the beat has already hit.
And for shortness of the light's duration (can be a preference you add in the second number. I have found 0 and 1096 to work accurately and to not drag on too long.

29.08.2008		nice find, thanks for sharing. This might make a good blog post.
Irving Delgado
29.08.2008		Pretty cool
I just added that to my play buttons, instead of a green light they now blink when a track is playing. I used a setting of 2048 - 4096, it makes them blink for a shorter period.

Edit: As posted by McRossi below ... 0 - 1096 should work better.
Cristian Carmona
29.08.2008		It works, I have mine working off the sync led (Green to Orange). Its a bit cheesy....but you want dj's to know that you have a vci-100 and you know how to use it!

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