Midi fighter with innofader
Midi fighter with innofader Posted on: 09.06.2010 by Mohamed Grew Is this possible?Everything I have read has talked about using alps faders. Very interested in the possibility of creating a midifighter scratch mixer for TSpro | |
| Tatum Ansaldo 15.04.2011 |
Originally Posted by Punky
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| Andy Cavelli 15.04.2011 | not even side ways? |
| Quincy Rostran 14.04.2011 | The APC series is not deep enough to accommodate an Innofader, unfortunately. |
| Lilliana Perris 13.04.2011 | BUMP!!!! Any news here? I want to add the Innofader to my APC80.... |
| Adriana Bazzelle 26.03.2011 | I too am interested. Is there a basic page with some basic 'how to' when it comes to the break out points on the side? Any help would be much appreciated. |
| Ethel Saracco 24.03.2011 | Hoping you guys can point me in the right direction. I've done some searches, but can't find what I'm looking for. I want to add 2 knobs and 2 regular faders to my Midi-Fighter, but I don't know exactly what parts to buy or where to get them. Thanks! |
| Adriana Bazzelle 24.03.2011 | Love to hear something on this. Is the Innofader kinda like a standard variable resistor? |
| Random X 18.03.2011 | Haven't heard anything tbh. |
| Andy Cavelli 17.03.2011 | Anyone have any news on this? If not possible with the midi fighter board, what board could achieve the same results? Would the innofader then transmit midi? |
| Danae Dumler 11.09.2010 | I have a question for the Innofader guys (and anyone else who wants to chime in) -- how difficult would it be to build an innofader box without a midifighter? I was believeing along these lines of a project that seems to have been dropped -- http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=911 -- but instead of a hardware mixer (which is basically what that is) I would love a faderbox that was literally just a box for the fader -- maybe a few other hardware buttons to adjust curve and all that but otherwise it could be used as a midi controller to control the Traktor or Ableton crossfader and little else. My problem with all the controllers I've seen that include crossfaders is that they are cramped and there is little room for serious crossfader activities -- I can scratch on the VCI fader with a turntable but I'm always running into the arcade buttons (yes this is a drawback to the arcade mod). I'd love to build a simple box whose only purpose was to have a roomy and stable housing for an innofader. How easy would it be to put together a kit that would allow this? |
| Caryn Liberato 11.09.2010 | I came to these Midi fighter page's to ask what has already been asked, plus I find Elliot Marks on here to!! I'm desperately interested to see if this mod is possible. I've got an orignal vestax 05 that's dead in every way, I love the idea of midi pimping old rusty. Plus once set up it wouldn't be to hard to put some type of female to male plugs in between all the wires so I could take the midi fighter out of the 05 and finally midi a fi my arcade button ready Scratchophone. |
| Random X 09.09.2010 | Wow, that would be awesome, looking forward on the progress of this one! |
| Quincy Rostran 09.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by nick.caris
The main problem you're going to encounter is that the MIDI Fighter doesn't have the necessary ports to incorporate the fader. This might be a pretty complicated hack if it's doable at all. |
| Brunilda Kora 08.09.2010 | +1. Sounds like an IDEAL mod for the Midi Fighter. |
| Terrie Ruse 08.09.2010 | I have a midi fighter and a spare Innofader ready to test. if somebody is willing to hook me up with some diagrams of how i should be wiring this, i am willing to document my findings. I am extremely excited about this possibility and would like to keep this thread alive if possible. |
| Corine Kasman 22.06.2010 | @ericn91 The Midi Fighter comes with 8 expansion slots, 4 digital and 4 analogue. Here is one example of expansion with the 4 analogue slots: http://www.djranking s.com/2010/02/0...n-midi-crisis/ These are pots, but the principle is the same. There are others here in the community , just search for them. Phil. |
| Magaret Leffelman 22.06.2010 | how can you add a aditional fade ron the midi fighter? do you need a new circuit? is there any how to guide here on this community ? |
| Keli Vandenbergh 22.06.2010 | ... Modular design will be great... I will love get freedom for xfade positioning in this kind of controller. ... |
| Corine Kasman 21.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by midifidler
Connected to rear MBP USB port: Unloaded = 5.04 VDC Loaded (all 16 buttons pressed and LEDs on) = 4.94 VDC Connected to powered, multi-TT USB hub (Cables Unlimited 7 port): Unloaded = 5.13 VDC Loaded (all 16 buttons pressed and LEDs on) = 4.91 VDC Instrument: Techtronix TX1 multimeter w/stock leads As far as testing the fader, that would be easy for me to do, as I can get a piece of acrylic cut quickly to add a slot and holes for the fader mounting. Also boosting the MF height for Inno clearance is very easy too. And after fitting a ProX to both a VCI-100 and an Ecler Nuo 2 (NOT a 2.0 !!), I would have no problem with the mod. But as I am not a scratcher, I might not be the best to demo the mod. Let us know what you believe with the above info, Phil. |
| Keli Vandenbergh 21.06.2010 | ... 4 analog and 4 digital... it could be really interesting! ... |
| Quincy Rostran 21.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by midifidler
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| Adolf Hit 21.06.2010 | The 5V supply requirement is going to be an issue I believe, as the MF is powered from the USB it can only supply 5V. The MF doesnt have any mechanical allowance for a cross fader, but it has an expansion header which allows you to connect extra controls. |
| Nathanial Belenkaya 21.06.2010 | @pilmat: The 3 pin connector might work, but it's possible the power and ground are reversed. In this case the crossfader cable should plug into the corner of the 6 pin socket as shown here: http://www.audioinnovate.com/community s/...p?showtopic=96 Another issue I'm concerned about is the Innofader has a 5V regulator itself, so if the voltage is slightly off, the fader may not cut 100% on one side. Whether or not this issue will show up depends on the MIDI fighter internal software. I'll try to post a simple mod soon on our community because something similar is required for the Denon DX-1500 mixer. The new Innofader Pro we are working on should have no issues at all. The power can be reversed, and the output is always full range from 0 to whatever the power supply is, from 2.5V up to 20V. Is there enough space for the Innofader, and are the mounting holes correct? If someone could test this that would be really cool! Elliot |
| Corine Kasman 20.06.2010 | @emarx, shouldn't connecting the Inno in 3 pin work ( that's how we do the Pro X in the VCI-100)? The Alps is 3 pin; 5V, GND & Signal as indicated on the Midi Fighter PCB. Phil. |
| Nathanial Belenkaya 20.06.2010 | Actually I was looking for the links which showed the Alps fader hookups to the MIDI fighter. |
| Leeanna Ayla 20.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by emarx
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| Nathanial Belenkaya 20.06.2010 | Hey All, This is the first time I've heard of a MIDI fighter to be honest. But this is kinda cool. I'd imagine since this is all digital it should be easy enough to get the Innofader to work. Could you show me the links for the alps faders? The key is you need a power supply (probably 3.3V or 5V) and somehwere to hook up the Innofader output. We've had many DJs already install the Innofader on devices which use MIDI like the DJM-800, TTM-57, DDM-4000, and the Xone:4D and it works fine. MIDI controller knobs have a numeric range from 0 to 127. The Innofader itself has a range of 0 to 255 so it has enough extra resolution to allow you to get the full range MIDI output. The MIDI signal itself comes from the mixer, and with what you are talking about, the MIDI fighter would read the Innofader signal and convert it to MIDI. Hopefully this helps you get started. We have other guys taking peeks at this so just in case I'm slow to respond hopefully other knowledgable peeps can help out and perhaps nudge me once in a while |
| Quincy Rostran 14.06.2010 | Let me know if you have any trouble getting in touch with Elliot. |
| Random X 12.06.2010 | Wow.... That would be the addition I would be looking for! |
| Quincy Rostran 11.06.2010 | I'm actually a sales rep for Audio Innovate, who manufacture the Innofader. If you're interested in slapping one in a MIDI Fighter, you should speak to Elliot Marx, our head designer. You hit him up at support at audioinnovate dot com. |
| Adolf Hit 10.06.2010 | Definitely possible, they cost a fair stack of gold though |
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