Thinking Realistically (Traktor F1)
Thinking Realistically (Traktor F1) Posted on: 28.05.2012 by Asha Kravetz It's pretty,It's got 16 RGB pads, But are you really going to use the thing? I'm considering jumping on the F1 but I have to ask myself, is it really worth $249 for control over remix decks and a potentially mappable piece of midi hardware? Then you have to ask yourself, can you see yourself gigging with the thing everyday? Then you weigh the plusses in. It completely revolutionizes one's workflow No longer are we limited to playing songs.... 64 samples in the banks means limitless possibility for live remixes. Taking pieces of tracks and acappellas and layering them to create an absolutely fantastic set showcasing the limit of what's possible. With utilities like the loop recorder available, the possibilities are limitless. I'm skeptical and still continue to be about jumping on this. However, I believe it's time to step up and get used to a new workflow as a dj, because there are miles of possibility ahead. Thoughts? | |
| Cristian Carmona 29.05.2012 | im believeing of getting one for SSL & Ableton the bridge & maschine on the go controller. Im pretty sure ill pick one up 2nd hand on CL for dirt cheap. |
| Jona Slon 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by rotebass
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| Jolynn Schroyer 29.05.2012 |
This guy can tear it up with the f1. He makes me want to buy one. |
| Lela Umanskaya 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by karma
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| Jona Slon 29.05.2012 | Can't see myself using the remix decks. I look at it in two ways: If i want to dj i will probably just use my cds or usbs on my cdjs If i want to get creative i will probably just use my laptop, ableton, apc40 + whatever other midi controllers i see fit to add. Also quick Q is it only the F1 that can control the remix decks? Because wow what a rip off that would be. |
| Dorie Scelzo 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mart21har
Live can be pretty cheap if you want it to be. I believe even Live Lite that comes with most of the controllers you'd even believe about using with it will beat the Remix Decks in terms of functionality. I'll give you that it's more expensive and sobi that it's more straightforward to play full tracks in Live, but…meh. Live can play full tracks just fine. With as many loops and hot cues as you want to set up ahead of time and a good way to store them if you make them on the spot. I just don't see how it really competes with Live or even Maschine. Well…it does make it possible to stay all-NI and use time code. That's probably a plus for people who aren't pissed off at NI. |
| Asha Kravetz 29.05.2012 | The whole point where I see this being the most useful is for standard nut and bolt dj's working with track decks. Adding the remix decks into the set would help to create a more dynamic set whilst still keeping focus on mixing and track selection. If used right, these decks can be powerful tools to greatly enhance a set. If used wrongly, they can be tacky toys. It will never compare to the likes of Ableton, but ask yourself, was it really meant to compete with Ableton in the first place? |
| Lang Abriel 29.05.2012 | I was actually going to start a new thread comparing ableton to the new traktor with the new remix decks. I couldn't agree more with mostapha. I wish they would have focused more on improving existing features as opposed to early implementation of something that will only make more bugs that NI has to work on. I get the marketing part of it but as far as retaining customers...NI is moving in the wrong direction. touching on the topic of having multiple screens and CPU load....ableton uses literally 1/8 of the load that traktor uses...and thats when traktor is using internal playback, not even scratch. Also, if your going to have that planned of sets, like i have done at home (never live), I have a way to play into a screen change and software change, it takes me 1 or 2 tracks to get to an (ableton) part of my set. I don't see me easily integrating tracks and remix decks anymore than tracks and the old sample decks. I would use 1 or 2 samples max to layer an outro or intro of a song, having an extra 56 samples isn't going to change that at all. So the final point I am making is.....for ppl that have traktor and traktor only then the new capabilities are nice. However, most ppl who will actually be using the new remix decks will have had experience producing their own loops or tracks (hence having ableton or something similar) so alot of those ppl see it just as I do....being pretty much a striped down version of ableton lite. |
| Wallace Lawmaster 29.05.2012 | I wanted to take my mixes up another notch from just mixing tracks and using effects in a mix. Other alternative was either to send midi clock from Traktor to Ableton and use an APC or move to Serato/Bridge/Ableton. When NI announced the new remix decks and controller, I wanted it. Remix decks have Ableton like launching of clips and F1 is much smaller. Got my pre-ordered already. |
| Darren Teboe 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
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| Dorie Scelzo 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mart21har
Apart from what they both do, Ableton gives you…more effects, better effects, the same effects (Traktor's 12 for Guitar Rig Player), software synths, software drum machines, sample slots and channels only limited by your workflow & computer power, better Macro capabilities, more powerful MIDI mapping, MIDI effects that let even a novice play along with whatever's going on if they know the most basic music theory, more tools to shape your sound, more controllers, the ability to record (and later edit) MIDI automation any time you're playing, and MIDI recording that puts the loop recorder to shame. Apart from what they both do, Traktor gives you…pitch faders, vinyl control, and a more straightforward loop recorder that can't save what you're doing. The F1 is a really pretty controller. I don't believe anything else about it or Traktor 2.5 comes even close to what Ableton Live has given people for years. |
| Fannie Ohayre 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by The Mighty FV
But first I need to figure out what to do about my 6000. |
| Julianna Riecken 29.05.2012 | I got mine today, literally just plugged it in, loaded the free content from service center, and I'm loving it, can't wait to start filling the slots with whats in my head! |
| Joesph Kasian 29.05.2012 | The remix decks and sample decks are completely different....the sample decks were basic and painful to use compared to the remix decks. I will be getting one and you should, you owe it to yourself. |
| Asha Kravetz 29.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by dj subculture
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| Fannie Ohayre 29.05.2012 | The F1 is nice, but I don't even use the sample decks. Remix decks? Maybe in the future. |
| Freida Leash 28.05.2012 | Pretty lights be damned, I'm probably going to keep with my old kit for a bit, I'm enjoying it a lot and not really needing more right now. The pretty lights are snazzy though and I'm really drooling over them. |
| Leota Dolney 28.05.2012 | I'm getting one. I use Ableton and Traktor and I definitely look forward to doing more "Ableton-like" things in Traktor...The pre 2.5 sample decks just didn't cut for me...the remix decks are looking way more like they fit my style and ideal workflow...so I will definitely get one. I also get that it won't be ideal for a lot of people. That is why I like the modular controller paradigm. Some people love their S2, S4, VCIs etc...for me...all-in-one controllers don't fit my workflow....but I believe the F1 will. That's my $0.02! |
| Asha Kravetz 28.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJKyleHughes
However, you maintain the possibility of incorporating elements subtly that contribute to a delicate build or continue a mainroom high time feel. |
| Noriko Lebowitz 28.05.2012 |
Originally Posted by mart21har
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