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Berghain Techno?
Posted on: 01.04.2012 by Birgit Gondal
I noticed that there was a lot of interest in the Bass Music/Deep House thread, and I thought I'd start a thread based on another form of music thats been catching a lot of peoples ears recently, the dark heavy driving Berghain techno sound.

Artists and DJs like Marcel Dettman, Ben Klock, Pfirter and Chris Liebing are really helping to drive this scene at the moment and I thought we should have a thread on it!

http://soundcloud.com/dadub/dadub-in-the-mix
stuff like this

and this
http://soundcloud.com/xhin/live-at-berghain-berlin
Basil Forshee
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
Gary Beck is great, a little too upbeat for my home listening and stuff but i'd love to see him spin.
Gary Beck! One of the most amazing acts this year at Awakenings Festival .
Neal Rayome
05.07.2012
Please sign this petition. Even if you don't live in Germany or probably will never visit Berlin. What would the consequences be for Berlin Techno when the top clubs are forced to close?

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Celina Crusey
04.07.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Interested in this, I've really been getting into techno in the past several months and I can't get enough of it but I still feel kind of lost getting familiar with the current scene and what's happening with the genre. Definitely like the stuff from CLR and I've been wondering about production techniques for it to get that dark sound and that warehouse atmosphere. I would love to know what kind of FX they are using.

Not sure if it fits in here or is 'berghain' but here's a video from a CLR/Chris Liebing warehouse party a few weeks ago.



God I wish they did shit like this in the US more often...

I guess I'm better off than most people in the U.S. since I can go to Space Miami to the Techno Loft every weekend and hear solid techno from 10pm to the afternoon the next day. Not many cities in the US with any sort of techno scene I know of...

Could i get a track id for the 2nd song played in that video? It's amazing!
Shawnee Malaguti
03.07.2012
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake
Boom!

Thank you Lance. Deep, muddy & ever so slightly sleazy - superb!
Second that!! Cheeky little App too which will come in handy at work
Lin Danek
13.04.2012
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
here is my latest podcast, a bit of mix of techno, but it heads in Berghain techno sounds throughout parts of the set... Tracklisting etc can be found on the link below, not gonna post too much in here about it since I gave it a thread here as well.

http://lanceblaise.com/247-lance-bla...ggno-sessions/
Boom!

Thank you Lance. Deep, muddy & ever so slightly sleazy - superb!
Germaine Bernadin
05.07.2012
Berlin has hundereds of top clubs, that are way, way better than the Tourist Clubs.

I have played the Tresor one.... that was cool, but I have played and loads more much more underground clubs and had a better time.
Basil Forshee
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
Gary Beck is great, a little too upbeat for my home listening and stuff but i'd love to see him spin.
Gary Beck! One of the most amazing acts this year at Awakenings Festival .
Neal Rayome
05.07.2012
Please sign this petition. Even if you don't live in Germany or probably will never visit Berlin. What would the consequences be for Berlin Techno when the top clubs are forced to close?

Idk2.jpg
Germaine Bernadin
05.07.2012
I guess I'm lucky living here in Berlin, this is the norm. I've plyed most of the clubs in Berlin..... :-)

But I must admit I'm not impressed with the "Big Name" DJs .... they just don't rock it like us propper underground Techno dudes do.

But everyone to their own I suppose!

Tommi
Leeanna Ayla
04.07.2012
http://skrufff.com/2012/07/gema-thre...lose-berghain/
Celina Crusey
04.07.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Interested in this, I've really been getting into techno in the past several months and I can't get enough of it but I still feel kind of lost getting familiar with the current scene and what's happening with the genre. Definitely like the stuff from CLR and I've been wondering about production techniques for it to get that dark sound and that warehouse atmosphere. I would love to know what kind of FX they are using.

Not sure if it fits in here or is 'berghain' but here's a video from a CLR/Chris Liebing warehouse party a few weeks ago.



God I wish they did shit like this in the US more often...

I guess I'm better off than most people in the U.S. since I can go to Space Miami to the Techno Loft every weekend and hear solid techno from 10pm to the afternoon the next day. Not many cities in the US with any sort of techno scene I know of...

Could i get a track id for the 2nd song played in that video? It's amazing!
Birgit Gondal
03.07.2012
Gary Beck is great, a little too upbeat for my home listening and stuff but i'd love to see him spin.
Nicola Oatts
03.07.2012
no one into gary beck?
Shawnee Malaguti
03.07.2012
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake
Boom!

Thank you Lance. Deep, muddy & ever so slightly sleazy - superb!
Second that!! Cheeky little App too which will come in handy at work
Chrissy Kynard
02.07.2012
Sweet! I've been looking to expand my library with this sub-genre of techno but have been having a hard time finding it, due to the fact it was hard to describe; knowing a name will definitely help. I love this techno because it seems to have a nice under-melody or at least some atmospheric noise in the back - most techno dealing mostly with percussion sounds so empty to me. Anyway, I don't believe I saw anybody mention Dehix - not sure if he is Berghain techno but his sound is dark and deeply disturbed
Jacqulyn Cruson
02.07.2012
I love this form of Techno, I went to the CLR party for Movement Detroit this year and it was incredible. Saw Liebing, Monoloc, among others. Another label that does this sound really well is droid behavior, caught their amazing afterparty in Detroit as well. They also have a ton of podcasts to listen to. I've started producing my own tracks in this style, maybe you guys will dig it.

www.droidbehavior.com

http://soundcloud.com/uun/minus
Birgit Gondal
02.07.2012
I quite like the Stellate 2 compilation from stroboscopic at the moment, though i cant afford the vinyl so i have to wait til late july for the release, its being streamed off RA. I LOVE me some sandwell district!
Neal Rayome
02.07.2012
Prologue indeed! The new Voices from the Lake album is amazing!
Basil Forshee
02.07.2012
Also check out the Prologue label... Loving that shit!
Neal Rayome
03.07.2012
If you want more of the deeper, darker stuff I would suggest the Monad series on Stroboscopic Artefacts, all the stuff from Silent Servant, Peter van Hoesen, Markus Suckut (and the whole Figure SPC label for that matter), Mattias Fridell, Jonas Kopp etc etc.

That should take you a couple of days listening to music .



Romelia Stankard
02.07.2012
Hmm Ben Klock is playing a set here 4th of july, not sure if I can make it though. Would like to see a Berghain resident.
Birgit Gondal
29.04.2012


loving this weird broken beat stuff at the moment, heavy and pounding but still groovy. allows to try some different mixing techniques too, more drum and bass mixing for when the kicks don't match!
Efrain Scharr
13.04.2012
cheers!
Lin Danek
13.04.2012
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
here is my latest podcast, a bit of mix of techno, but it heads in Berghain techno sounds throughout parts of the set... Tracklisting etc can be found on the link below, not gonna post too much in here about it since I gave it a thread here as well.

http://lanceblaise.com/247-lance-bla...ggno-sessions/
Boom!

Thank you Lance. Deep, muddy & ever so slightly sleazy - superb!
Efrain Scharr
12.04.2012
here is my latest podcast, a bit of mix of techno, but it heads in Berghain techno sounds throughout parts of the set... Tracklisting etc can be found on the link below, not gonna post too much in here about it since I gave it a thread here as well.

http://lanceblaise.com/247-lance-bla...ggno-sessions/
Leeanna Ayla
12.04.2012
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bergh...42162245821280
Lin Danek
11.04.2012
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
I'm finding myself starting off a lot of my sets with slow paced, dubby and not really the kick heavy/driving techno but interchanging it with some deeper tech house (like some of the deeper stuff from the bass music thread), it actually can work really well if you eq correctly!
Check out Marc Antona, Jug and Echologist.
Birgit Gondal
11.04.2012
I'm finding myself starting off a lot of my sets with slow paced, dubby and not really the kick heavy/driving techno but interchanging it with some deeper tech house (like some of the deeper stuff from the bass music thread), it actually can work really well if you eq correctly!
Lin Danek
10.04.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
I've got two podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis, CLR and Lance's . Interestingly enough I don't play a whole lot of straight up techno as I tend to swing to the overly moody deep tech house stuff. Is there a more specific genre name for that? Techno was my first love though and holds a special place in my heart and this berghain sound is nice.
In my opinion Chris the line between Tech House and Techno often blurrs, and much of what creeps into the Techno and Tech House genres on Beatport for example could often be inter-changed. As loathe as we all are for yet another (sub) genre, the deeper, moody (I call it 'muddier') side of Tech House probably does need a new name.
Efrain Scharr
05.04.2012
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake

Interesting point Lance - if you played @ Bergain - would it not be 'Lance @ Berghain', rather than Berghain Techno? I believe the club itself has much to do with having moulded the genre. There's a consistent thread through their mixed compilation series, much like say Watergate, or Panorama Bar. As talented as Klock, Dettmann & Faki et al are, it becomes 'predictable'.
I would say that how I would play there would totally fit their sound...
Birgit Gondal
05.04.2012
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake

Interesting point Lance - if you played @ Bergain - would it not be 'Lance @ Berghain', rather than Berghain Techno? I believe the club itself has much to do with having moulded the genre. There's a consistent thread through their mixed compilation series, much like say Watergate, or Panorama Bar. As talented as Klock, Dettmann & Faki et al are, it becomes 'predictable'.
In saying that, however, they seem to throw back to a lot of schranz and stuff in their non-berghain sets, its still very heavy but its almost like they play 'to berghain' and when they play other places their real personality shines through! I would agree with the club's 'sound' almost being predictable, but when you take the people who are influential on the sound out of that location their personal style shows more and makes it extremely interesting!
Leeanna Ayla
05.04.2012
I've got two podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis, CLR and Lance's . Interestingly enough I don't play a whole lot of straight up techno as I tend to swing to the overly moody deep tech house stuff. Is there a more specific genre name for that? Techno was my first love though and holds a special place in my heart and this berghain sound is nice.
Lin Danek
04.04.2012
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
I generally keep my techno dark, dubby, hard, and sometimes deep... just depends on where I am playing as to which direction I go... the techno genre is very wide.

Interesting point Lance - if you played @ Bergain - would it not be 'Lance @ Berghain', rather than Berghain Techno? I believe the club itself has much to do with having moulded the genre. There's a consistent thread through their mixed compilation series, much like say Watergate, or Panorama Bar. As talented as Klock, Dettmann & Faki et al are, it becomes 'predictable'.
Efrain Scharr
04.04.2012
I generally keep my techno dark, dubby, hard, and sometimes deep... just depends on where I am playing as to which direction I go... the techno genre is very wide.
Birgit Gondal
04.04.2012
If anyone produces in this thread, would you be interested in checking out my tune? I havent mastered it yet, because quite frankly I've never gotten to the mastering stage before, and if anyone who has a clue would give it a listen and maybe give me a few pointers?

I've removed that link after i mastered it a bit, and here is the result!

http://soundcloud.com/petewoods/trans
Celestine Porebski
03.04.2012
It's quite a convenient way to refer to a certain sound, too. I mean, trying to describe something like that in terms of genre is always hard. I also often refer to the afterhours mixture of tech house/deep house/techno, which I so dearly love, as Bar25 (or nowadays Kater) music

edit: Not a new phenomenon either, just believe of "NY Garage" as a genre description
Mimi Mahaffee
03.04.2012
Originally Posted by PeteWoods
I dont believe so its just one of the many names being bandied about for music like this, Dub Techno and Experimental Techno are two others as well I believe. Its seems to be the Berghain sound because most of its residents like Ben Klock and Marcell Dettmann are spinning it, so I've heard quite a few people calling it Berghain Techno!
Ah, now I got it clear! Berghain "genre" comes from the resident DJ's at the club Berghain usually playing some certain genres.
Rochel Gleese
02.04.2012
It's definitely a sub genre even though the guys that make it play it wouldn't like to say so.

From what I read it's mostly because of the clubs acoustics, it supposed to sound amazing

Shifter47 love uk techno, it sort of made me stop listening to techno at some point but the guys like surgeon, Ben sims and Regis have definitely made a resurgence.
Birgit Gondal
02.04.2012
I dont believe so its just one of the many names being bandied about for music like this, Dub Techno and Experimental Techno are two others as well I believe. Its seems to be the Berghain sound because most of its residents like Ben Klock and Marcell Dettmann are spinning it, so I've heard quite a few people calling it Berghain Techno!
May Artman
02.04.2012
God I wish they did shit like this in the US more often...
Amen... That's why I went all out on techno parties during WMC - only time I get a chance.

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