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[Article] No talent is required to perform EDM
Posted on: 05.07.2012 by Georgianna Eurick
By Michael Mann, July 4, 2012
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Darren Teboe
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by backtothefront
I personally feel this 'EDM' (awful term) explosion and resultant backlash is mainly a US based thing, as if the mainstream audience/press have suddenly discovered electronic music albeit an overtly commercial one. The fact that dance music has been bubbling along quite nicely in the underground for many years before doesn't seem to get a mention.
Not for nothing, but that sounds almost as ignorant as some of the media does. They've been covering it for a long time, and to be honest, this isn't the first time dance music has exploded over here. It did in the early to mid 90's. Then after the ecstasy fueled train ran out of gas, it went away.
Rosenda Gossage
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
http://straight.com/article-724491/v...t-required-edm

What do you guys believe about makes sense or pure hate?
I particularly like the way the author believes EDM is a genre of electronic dance music, rather than an old term that accurately describes the whole House/Techno/Trance/D'n'B sphere.

*sigh*
Nilsa Erben
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
P.S. Fair enough if I was going to go and see Hawtin, Cox or Digweed playing live I would expect a lil less mental with the light and stage setup. The music being played and the lighting reflected each other pretty well in this case and judging from the crowd I'm sure they agree (again IMHO).
I've seen John Digweed twice at his Bedrock label evening s in London and its all about the music and not him. Oh, and fantastic sound...no redlighting in evidence (at least to my ears).
Celestine Porebski
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
^^ horrible music and even more horrible lights.

I do not understand why people would pay money for that.
+1
Madelene Witek
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
^^ horrible music and even more horrible lights.

I do not understand why people would pay money for that.
...And you just proved the point further. If you don't fucking like it, don't involve yourself.

I, personally, like these very high energy, exciting, almost chaotic types of festivals.

I don't know what music you like, or "get down to", but that doesn't matter does it.

and it's people like you that will never fully understand music, that everyone likes something else. And you're simply frustrated that the people who like that don't like what you like.
Nedra Fresneda
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by DigitalDevil
Terribly written to be taken seriously, but all true and mostly stuff that's already been pointed out a million times. I believe the most important point anyone's made with these articles is pretty well summarized by "the fans of this stupid fucking music are fucking stupid too". Or, as another article put it - "you can’t expect a growing mass of EDM fans to want a rarified, occasionally difficult, protracted dance floor experience: They probably just want to buy the ticket, ride the LED-lit ride, and go home."
In other words

Darren Teboe
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by backtothefront
I personally feel this 'EDM' (awful term) explosion and resultant backlash is mainly a US based thing, as if the mainstream audience/press have suddenly discovered electronic music albeit an overtly commercial one. The fact that dance music has been bubbling along quite nicely in the underground for many years before doesn't seem to get a mention.
Not for nothing, but that sounds almost as ignorant as some of the media does. They've been covering it for a long time, and to be honest, this isn't the first time dance music has exploded over here. It did in the early to mid 90's. Then after the ecstasy fueled train ran out of gas, it went away.
Rosenda Gossage
10.07.2012
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
http://straight.com/article-724491/v...t-required-edm

What do you guys believe about makes sense or pure hate?
I particularly like the way the author believes EDM is a genre of electronic dance music, rather than an old term that accurately describes the whole House/Techno/Trance/D'n'B sphere.

*sigh*
Ardell Lafranchi
10.07.2012		bump
Nilsa Erben
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
P.S. Fair enough if I was going to go and see Hawtin, Cox or Digweed playing live I would expect a lil less mental with the light and stage setup. The music being played and the lighting reflected each other pretty well in this case and judging from the crowd I'm sure they agree (again IMHO).
I've seen John Digweed twice at his Bedrock label evening s in London and its all about the music and not him. Oh, and fantastic sound...no redlighting in evidence (at least to my ears).
Rolanda Clodfelder
06.07.2012
^^ horrible music and even more horrible lights.
So I guess a tiny venue with a few blacklights tubes and a strobe is more your thing ?

Different strokes for different folks, but IMHO that looks like one hell of a stage and lighting setup and only IMHO enhances the "show" ... and at the end of the day the showboating and big hits is all the regular folk go to these gigs for, not to be whingy about whether or not XYZ actually played everything live.

90% of the audience are not DJ's or Aspiring artists, or Musical Connoisseurs they go to see whats big and what their friends are going to see

P.S. Fair enough if I was going to go and see Hawtin, Cox or Digweed playing live I would expect a lil less mental with the light and stage setup. The music being played and the lighting reflected each other pretty well in this case and judging from the crowd I'm sure they agree (again IMHO).
Celestine Porebski
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
^^ horrible music and even more horrible lights.

I do not understand why people would pay money for that.
+1
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
06.07.2012		I'm pretty sure knife party mix on cdj's, I saw them a couple of months ago, they galloped a mix, cut it did a spinback said "whoops" on the mic and did it again! they dominated the festival! especially when they dropped "fire hive" OMFG that's a TUNE! cannot wait till they come back to Aus!
Vada Branyon
06.07.2012		i'm frustrated yet you couldn't wait to attack me personally hahaha.


Sure m8.
Madelene Witek
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
^^ horrible music and even more horrible lights.

I do not understand why people would pay money for that.
...And you just proved the point further. If you don't fucking like it, don't involve yourself.

I, personally, like these very high energy, exciting, almost chaotic types of festivals.

I don't know what music you like, or "get down to", but that doesn't matter does it.

and it's people like you that will never fully understand music, that everyone likes something else. And you're simply frustrated that the people who like that don't like what you like.
Vada Branyon
06.07.2012		^^ horrible music and even more horrible lights.

I do not understand why people would pay money for that.
Madelene Witek
06.07.2012		Here, how about this. Happened a week ago a few hours away from where I live.



I don't, give a fuck what they're doing up their, doesn't matter. all I know is, if you're in that crowd, you're having a damn time of your life. BELIEVE me.

Yeah, you could sit in the far back and bitch soberly about how lame and phony this entire thing is. You really could.
Fabiola Mcleran
06.07.2012		Sorry to interrupt! But I agree that you need some skill to learn advance EDM. You may find short term courses online. Training is also given for 3-4 months. Rest is upon your passion..

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Ira Alsadi
06.07.2012		Sounds to me like he got dissed by a raver chick at some point.
Nedra Fresneda
06.07.2012
Originally Posted by DigitalDevil
Terribly written to be taken seriously, but all true and mostly stuff that's already been pointed out a million times. I believe the most important point anyone's made with these articles is pretty well summarized by "the fans of this stupid fucking music are fucking stupid too". Or, as another article put it - "you can’t expect a growing mass of EDM fans to want a rarified, occasionally difficult, protracted dance floor experience: They probably just want to buy the ticket, ride the LED-lit ride, and go home."
In other words

Danae Dumler
06.07.2012		I stopped reading after the quip about Paris Hilton's on-screen skills. Either he didn't see the video or his standards are totally unrealistic.
Chasidy Heckenbach
05.07.2012		i thought it was a funny read, would have been funnier if he actually meant to be funny and not just hating on dance music i guess he prefers rock music then
Johnetta Olewine
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by DJ JesC
i thought that was Silverlake (Mecca of Hipster)
At least silverlake has some hipster history. Vancouver is a soulless void of ordinariness. Nice spot though. Just full of bellends.
Cristian Carmona
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
number 1 city in the world that tries way too hard to be "cool".
i thought that was Silverlake (Mecca of Hipster)
Johnetta Olewine
05.07.2012		As if I care what some wannabe trendsetter, who writes very mediocre prose for some irrelevant Vancouver streetpress, believes. Lol. Vancouver of all places. The number 1 city in the world that tries way too hard to be "cool".
Cole Maroto
05.07.2012		a comment on the site summed it up perfectly: "stop liking what i don't like!"

i never get how people can be so angry at an entire genre of music. he must have been minding his business one evening , all alone in his room when edm busted through the window and got rough with him saying "i'm the edm warrior, we can either do this the easy way...or the hard way..."

i opted for the easy way, as most people do.
Marva Cupid
05.07.2012		It really astonishes me how much time these idiots have one their hands to write articles about how much they hate this or how easy something is. He should be practicing his music(rock, jazz, whatever the fuck else the fucker does.)
This shoUldnt annoy us, we should stand proud of our scene, no matter if technology is there for everyone to TRY and make it. Anyone can sniff out a shit track.
So to whoever the fuck wrote this, shut the fuck up and go find something else to entertain ur close minded, dumb brain of urs.
*_* thanks and have a nice day*_*
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
Just like it takes talent to be a good DJ, it takes talent to write a good editorial. The whole point is that with a computer and some specialized software anybody can do just about anything. There's going to be people that suck at it and there's going to be people that should suck at it, but have enough money to appear good at it.

I'm just glad that the same technology has made it so easy to bitch about how easy everything is now.
I never quote post's but that's post of the month!

The writer is a self important fuckwit! (I never swear either)
Romelia Stankard
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
No talent is required to write editorials

Let's just cut the shit for a minute, editorials are the stupidest writing on the planet. No talent required. Yadda yadda. Fucking expletives. Michael Mann sucking knobs. Fucking bath salts reference, because that makes me sound hip like a 4chan nerd. More fucking expletives, the more I swear the more valid my point must be. Read into that statement however you like.
/thread
Lela Umanskaya
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by photojojo
I'm just glad that the same technology has made it so easy to bitch about how easy everything is now.
/thread!

BTW, my post was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek for any that could tell.
Leeanna Ayla
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
No talent is required to write editorials

Let's just cut the shit for a minute, editorials are the stupidest writing on the planet.
Just like it takes talent to be a good DJ, it takes talent to write a good editorial. The whole point is that with a computer and some specialized software anybody can do just about anything. There's going to be people that suck at it and there's going to be people that should suck at it, but have enough money to appear good at it.

I'm just glad that the same technology has made it so easy to bitch about how easy everything is now.
Kathe Berlanga
05.07.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
No talent is required to write editorials

Let's just cut the shit for a minute, editorials are the stupidest writing on the planet. No talent required. Yadda yadda. Fucking expletives. Michael Mann sucking knobs. Fucking bath salts reference, because that makes me sound hip like a 4chan nerd. More fucking expletives, the more I swear the more valid my point must be. Read into that statement however you like.
this.
Lela Umanskaya
05.07.2012		No talent is required to write editorials

Let's just cut the shit for a minute, editorials are the stupidest writing on the planet. No talent required. Yadda yadda. Fucking expletives. Michael Mann sucking knobs. Fucking bath salts reference, because that makes me sound hip like a 4chan nerd. More fucking expletives, the more I swear the more valid my point must be. Read into that statement however you like.
Nilsa Erben
05.07.2012		Typical local "hip" journalist. I watched Orbital playing out Live last evening on YouTube...it was friggin brilliant...I would gladly pay to see them play again, would I pay to see Skilless or David Forgetta - no bloody way...but lumping all EDM in one big nasty basket is pretty lame if you ask me, this fucktard of a writer is just as bad and talentless as Paris for jumping on the bash EDM bandwagon.
Rolanda Clodfelder
05.07.2012		Is there any reason I (or anyone else) should even care about what this person has to say ?

Always amuses me when someone says "thats so easy" or "I could do that ..... if I wanted to"

At the end of the day people pay to see a Deadmau5/Steve Akoi<Insert other live EDM artists> show, BECAUSE its A SHOW not because he is or isn't playing "live"... its the whole package of lights , sound, visuals, music, lasers etc.

Now isn't this just the same as people go to see Britney Spears/Madonna/Kylie <insert artist> show BECAUSE its Britney/Madonna/Kylie the fact is that the majority of Solo/Group boy band/girlbands DO NOT sing live either and everyone knows it and has known for years.

Just like Mr Mau5 Said the entire live system is a gigantic redundancy - sure if you want to sing live as an artist you can - but you can bet your life that if your voice sounds like crap on the evening your engineer will lower your mic volume and mix the recording instead.

So ... whats the big deal ?
Lashawn Maycock
05.07.2012		I personally feel this 'EDM' (awful term) explosion and resultant backlash is mainly a US based thing, as if the mainstream audience/press have suddenly discovered electronic music albeit an overtly commercial one. The fact that dance music has been bubbling along quite nicely in the underground for many years before doesn't seem to get a mention.
Morris Naggar
05.07.2012		so rock is all the same? what about jazz? ambient?
i mean...come on..being close minded can be the easiest thing in the world!
and why cant producers perform live? its the same like bands, maybe we should tell them they are all boring and all the same.
what if the world wants to listen to rihanna? so freakin what.
if it wasnt for edm , and technology and artists that ''are boring'' then im sure rihanna wouldnt have gone very far with her carreer..

dont feed the troll guys.
Jerica Salava
05.07.2012		I believe a lot of this started when producers started to DJ. Back in 2001 I remember only true DJ's were playing at WMC. Now it's a bunch of music producers pretending to DJ. The average Joe can't tell the difference, but real dance music fans can sniff out the rats and it's finally being brought into the spotlight.
May Artman
05.07.2012		Terribly written to be taken seriously, but all true and mostly stuff that's already been pointed out a million times. I believe the most important point anyone's made with these articles is pretty well summarized by "the fans of this stupid fucking music are fucking stupid too". Or, as another article put it - "you can’t expect a growing mass of EDM fans to want a rarified, occasionally difficult, protracted dance floor experience: They probably just want to buy the ticket, ride the LED-lit ride, and go home."
Dione Haimes
05.07.2012		He's right, we should all just hang up our headphones now.

/sarcasm

He is kinda right though. you cant really name any point hes made that is wrong.

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