Is EDM Killing Techno/House?

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Is EDM Killing Techno/House?
Posted on: 05.09.2012 by Gerard Cowin
I've noticed in my own home town that the club scene has exploded with the EDM culture. Rare is it to find a club/venue that plays pure House and Techno.

We used to have a decent venue that hosted underground evening s on a bi-weekly or at the very least, monthly basis. However, Tiesto happened to come along and destroy our sacred establishment. Tiesto demanded that the club be opened up (the club has an upstairs and downstairs) so as to accommodate a larger amount of people. The stage was moved to the 2nd floor balcony which over looked the main room, and the upstairs wall which separated the two rooms was removed so people could view Tiesto from directly across.

In the process of doing this, the club owners managed to ruin the sound system and acoustics of the secondary room. Any time there's an underground evening , there's conflicting sound from the downstairs mainroom which plays pop/rap/EDM so it throws the dancers off and requires you to awkwardly beatmatch to dance.

They put up another wall since then but the sound has never recovered. The owners saw more money in the mainstream EDM movement and focused their resources towards the growth of that scene instead. So now we're left with a venue that has flat sound and poor service. It's obvious that the owners don't put their all into developing or promoting the second room of the club and it shows in the atmosphere. Now I've heard that they want to shut down the second room and revamp it, which I only hope can be for the better and not the worse. The second room has slowly started to loose money and it's customer basis, with fewer regulars showing up each event.

We've been trying to ferment an underground scene but it seems that some people are too occupied with their own business at the moment (we had one successful underground evening at an undisclosed venue put on by ourselves with no outside promoter).

I really want to see the underground thrive but I'm not quite sure how to go about it, and I fear that Techno/Underground is fading away. Do people just not like Techno/House? I know there's a small group of dedicated fans here but no one to coalesce them.

How is the underground scene in your area, is it a loss cause trying to support Techno? Is the future EDM/Pop? What are your thoughts on this matter?
Brooke Cary
05.09.2012
I feel like I agree with this post. I find it that House is the original genre to start it all, and that includes all of the modern styles of electronic music. However EDM I feel is made specifically to be played at a party or rave or dance setting. I'm the only DJ I know personally who still listens to actual house rather than just electro or glitch hop or progressive house. I'm not saying they're bad genres, but whatever happened to listening to house as just music. Like the good ol' days of Daft Punk and Justice?
Ming Devis
05.09.2012
I believe the big pop electro thing has been good for the scene here in Sydney. Lots of people are growing out of it and searching for underground stuff.
Leeanna Ayla
05.09.2012
Sounds like you need to find a new venue for your underground evening . If the town is big enough for Diplo then surely there's somewhere else to play the music you love.
Lashawn Maycock
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
Next person to use the term "EDM" when having a conversation about music, will get a punch in the throat. Its a term that only the musically moronic use and has no place in a knowledgeable, informed discussion of electronic music, regardless of genre.
Latina Samon
05.09.2012
I can't speak for where you live but overall it hasn't killed anything. To me EDM is an overarching term for popular house music such as Guetta, LMFAO, Swedish House Mafia, Afrojack and all that kind of electro/dirty dutch 'pop' type sound. If anything it's united real house/techno lovers, partly in their hatred
To me house music is stronger than ever if you know where to look.
It's very much separate to the EDM 'scene' though. Unfortunately for you the promoter/club owner sounds like he's in it for the money rather than the music. They aren't all like that (not that bad anyway).
As a positive it might end up bringing new people into the real scene eventually which will only make house stronger.
Lela Umanskaya
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
Next person to use the term "EDM" when having a conversation about music, will get a punch in the throat. Its a term that only the musically moronic use and has no place in a knowledgeable, informed discussion of electronic music, regardless of genre.
EDM EDM ED-fooking-M

Originally Posted by Bl4ck3n3D
By the way this isn't happening in Detroit, but across the river in Windsor, Canada. Detroit's scene is thriving, not like it was back in the hay day, but still alive and kicking.
Windsor had a scene? Every time I've ever partied in Windsor, it's just bro's from Detroit trying to scam on what ever piece of ass they could find.
Gerard Cowin
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
Next person to use the term "EDM" when having a conversation about music, will get a punch in the throat. Its a term that only the musically moronic use and has no place in a knowledgeable, informed discussion of electronic music, regardless of genre.
That's actually the exact reason why I used the term "EDM", because it describes the distaste I have for this newly infused "EDM" genre that masquerades as Techno and House. Look past the terminology and reply to what I am speaking about. I use the term EDM to differentiate between classic electronic music and this new breed, feel me?
Gerard Cowin
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
He might have ruined that club as far as it putting on underground evening s, but are you telling me there are no more in Detroit?
By the way this isn't happening in Detroit, but across the river in Windsor, Canada. Detroit's scene is thriving, not like it was back in the hay day, but still alive and kicking.
Angella Tsukerman
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
Next person to use the term "EDM" when having a conversation about music, will get a punch in the throat. Its a term that only the musically moronic use and has no place in a knowledgeable, informed discussion of electronic music, regardless of genre.
+1
Johnetta Olewine
05.09.2012
Next person to use the term "EDM" when having a conversation about music, will get a punch in the throat. Its a term that only the musically moronic use and has no place in a knowledgeable, informed discussion of electronic music, regardless of genre.
Janyce Henningson
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by Bl4ck3n3D
But in the meantime he completely destroyed our scene...
He might have ruined that club as far as it putting on underground evening s, but are you telling me there are no more in Detroit?
Gerard Cowin
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
EDM to me (electronic dance music) is and has always been the all encompassing term for all music created electronically...i.e. house (and all its sub genres), techno, drum & bass, electro...etc...
I am referring to the recent explosion of EDM in North America (the past 3 years). Before then it was more Techno and House, now it's EDM. I use EDM to refer to this brostep/dubstep/electro/progressive/brocore/house that has infused the scene. I don't like categorizing Techno and House under the same umbrella due to people misinterpreting House as Progressive electro/brostep. Get my drift?
Gerard Cowin
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
Sounds like a business man made a business decision. Nothing to get upset about, deal with it or move along...
But in the meantime he completely destroyed our scene... Wouldn't you feel displaced after something like that?? He doesn't even pay DJs to spin and expects them to do all the promoting.
Lela Umanskaya
05.09.2012
Originally Posted by Bl4ck3n3D
They put up another wall since then but the sound has never recovered. The owners saw more money in the mainstream EDM movement and focused their resources towards the growth of that scene instead.
Sounds like a business man made a business decision. Nothing to get upset about, deal with it or move along...
Teresia Janusch
05.09.2012
EDM to me (electronic dance music) is and has always been the all encompassing term for all music created electronically...i.e. house (and all its sub genres), techno, drum & bass, electro...etc...

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