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How do YOU obtain your music? Posted on: 11.06.2012 by Shakita Salansky Personally, I'm a part of ZipDJ, a $50 a month record pool service. I'm still pretty new, and am looking for maybe alternatives. I've always been told record pools would be the best deal financially, however sometimes lacking in song selection. So my question to you all is, How do you get your music? Any feedback is thankful.
Freida Leash 21.06.2012	software is obviously free for this guy, he has other bills. my particular stance on the subject isn't community friendly, I believe there should be full demos where you can truly learn the software use it and sculpt a good image of if it fits your work flow and desire before buying. This often do not exist, getting burned for $10 is fine getting burned for $500 isn't. When I started design the divide between Freehand and Illustrator was huge, there was no way to tell until you really used both for a bit. I wound up being an Adobe guy because the pen tool works better, and I didn't have to juggle the inspector, no way I would spend a grand to make that choice. Lucky for me machines at the office had both installed, making this choice in the wild would have been really expensive or I would have been locked into one with out knowing. Software should be unlimited for at least a month, I may be locked into Traktor now because I didn't find anything better sooner, not going to jump ship while things are working. the hardware side of producing is another matter, really the one that is still keeping tons out of the attempt, but is becoming seriously approachable on a budget above eating ramen twice daily.
Nedra Fresneda 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by attila Charging for music is an outdated practice, especially in the realm of electronic music where the recording costs hover around $0. Not if you pay for hardware/software or decent mastering.
Ricki Markman 20.06.2012	I don't really pay for much music either. Call it entitlement issues or whatnot, but I just don't have the money to buy tracks at this point, especially with beatport charging 2.50 a song. Seems that half the producers I follow tell everyone to pirate their music anyway, and as I put out tracks they're all free as well. Charging for music is an outdated practice, especially in the realm of electronic music where the recording costs hover around $0. I'm extremely stubborn so please don't try to challenge me on this.
Eileen Sailes 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by mablack This thread is everything that's wrong with community s ever. I never thought I'd see YOLO, followed by drop the bass used on djtt. I got one for you... GTFO. When you say turn up those levels, I could only assume you're red lining. Well your negative person and wouldn't want to hang out or discuss music with you. I sometimes I do the kiss the red, you mad bro? YOLO!
Steve Gurgul 20.06.2012	This thread is everything that's wrong with community s ever. I never thought I'd see YOLO, followed by drop the bass used on djtt. I got one for you... GTFO. When you say turn up those levels, I could only assume you're red lining.
Romelia Stankard 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by photojojo . Sometimes I wonder why I have a job because any kid with a camera can take pictures. Sure they'll most likely not be nearly as good as mine because they didn't get the upgraded package with their digital rebel that includes the talent plugin.</sarcasm> So pretty much the same thing is happening with DJing that happened with photography.
Eileen Sailes 20.06.2012	I believe its wrong to hate on somebody for downloading free music, sure there is more honor in purchasing music, but either way at the end of the day, at least i keep it real and admit to it unlike alot of these fakes who say they don't download for free when they do.
Eileen Sailes 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular YOLO, really...? Yea its a great saying. Hate much...?
Romelia Stankard 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE You only live once, so turn up the volume and drop the bass. YOLO, really...?
Werner Bile 20.06.2012	you can't be serious about "REAL HIP HOP". Hip hop today is basically the worst its ever been.
Eileen Sailes 20.06.2012	lol. I love playing the bad guy. In all honesty i would love to purchase the majority of my tracks, the perks are definitely better. But i don't and not afraid to admit it. If it wasn't for free mp3 download the majority of the artists that have risen in the past decade, you would have probably never been exposed to them, without exposure you cant reach a big audience, without a following you are nobody. In my opinion the free download generation saved music. No longer did the big record companies have a choke hold on the music we get exposed to, being force fed bullshit tunes by the highest bidder, no longer does Gangsta rap outshine REAL HIP HOP. With the download generation the bar was raised and mofuckas had to step their game up. You have your opinion I have mine. the majority of the artists that I do play i have been to there shows and paid a pretty penny to attend, whether it be "Chuckie at XS evening club, or Chase and status at EDC" if i enjoy there music and i know they are coming to town i even promote for them on social networks, there are other ways to give back to the artist without purchasing there tracks directly. If you cant afford it dont sweat it i'll share the with you that way we can all dance and have a good time. You only live once, so turn up the volume and drop the bass.
Lashawn Maycock 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by dj matt blaze There was a time when a 12" record cost $4.99-$5.99. So for that price you got an extended version, club mix, maybe a dub version, acapella if you were lucky and that was it. Buy 5 records a week and you pay $25-$30 a week or 20 records for $100-$120 a month. Now I pay $43 a month for music and can download hundreds of tracks. I don't have to search torrents, its all legal and a bargain from the amount it once was. The part that bothers me about your posts is your sense of entitlement which is a major problem in our society today. Everyone believes that everything should be handed to them for nothing. You have the nerve to say you work for your car, food, phone, place to live, internet, and take no consideration at all on any level for the artists, producers, engineers, that make the music that you are stealing. You aren't getting it for free, you are STEALING. Do you walk into a store pick something off the shelf and walk out of the store with it and then claim you were just "getting it for free?" What about if your boss just decided not to pay you anymore. Boss doesn't care about your money, the boss has overhead, phone lines to pay for, rent, insurance, and just decides, you know I'm not paying you anymore because I have a car, food, place to live, and internet to pay for, you will have to work for free, I don't need to support you. Talk about getting real? Really? Great post, this. I still suspect Girlcheese is a WUM, if not then 'she' has balls (or not) to come on here and openly admit, almost boast, about downloading pirated music.
Yukiko Beauvil 20.06.2012	Beatport and soundcloud for free downloads.
Danae Dumler 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by MWagner Given the vast difference in the scope and scale of file sharing today vs. cassette dubs etc in the past, I'm not sure what point Travis is trying to make in that piece. Napster is one of his examples; I'm not sure the scale of file sharing is that different from what it was in 2000. Speaking in broader historical terms, a business model based on packaging and selling recorded music is an extremely recent occurrence. People worried that artists won't be able to make a living thanks to internet piracy and will stop producing art forget that artists made livings for thousands of years without being able to package and sell recordings. I say this only to bring perspective to the whole discussion, not to condone the attitude the other poster expressed about never paying for music. But that whole Emily White piece really annoyed me for some reason so I figured it deserved a response.
Werner Bile 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by djproben And this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/travis...b_1610557.html Given the vast difference in the scope and scale of file sharing today vs. cassette dubs etc in the past, I'm not sure what point Travis is trying to make in that piece.
Wallace Lawmaster 19.06.2012	Mostly Beatport, but Audiojelly is offering 99c wav/320 mp3 so been checking them out. Also gotten music from Juno and Trackitdown. I noticed Satelliterecords.com got bunch of stuff now too, use to buy vinyl from them back in the day. As for torrent discussion, I did at one time, quit it altogether. I like paying artists for their work, cause I hope some day to sell my music. Musical artists should get paid like the other types of artists. If it's too expensive, check another site, or label/artist site. I was finding tracks cheaper on Audiojelly compared to Beatport or wait til Beatport reduces the price or sends out those 25% coupons.
Danae Dumler 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by photojojo Everybody should read this. http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/...gs-considered/ And this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/travis...b_1610557.html
Margie Pavell 19.06.2012	over 50 bucks got you free shipping at dancerecords.com...3 day shipping... 7 dollars for domestic singles, 11 bucks for import singles...
Werner Bile 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by dj matt blaze There was a time when a 12" record cost $4.99-$5.99. So for that price you got an extended version, club mix, maybe a dub version, acapella if you were lucky and that was it. Buy 5 records a week and you pay $25-$30 a week or 20 records for $100-$120 a month. shit, if you happened to spin a genre that relied heavily on imports, a 12" could sometimes be $10 or $15. Somehow, DJs still managed.
Roseanna Signorini 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE lol. I dont know about you guys, but I work my ass off all month to barely afford having a car, phone, place to live, food, and internet access. You all are tripping for buying your music. I have, and will always support the sharing of music files. Why should i pay 2.00$ for a house track that in all honesty isnt really all that original and is most likely a remix of a remix or very similar to something somebody else did years ago. One of the great things of producing music and mixing that i will always be an advocate for is sharing music ideas and samples, my mom would be disappointed in me if i paid for something i could get for free. DOWNLOAD IT FOR FREE! There are a ton of options to do so. Fuck the record industry and big recording! Aint getting a dime from me unless i cant find it for free!. GET REAL! There is a reason that record pools exist. First off, as a DJ, you are promoting the music which in turn will allow others to hear the music for them to go out and buy it, so you pay a monthly charge for membership and you can download all the music you want. This is also the reason that you have to rate the track and give feedback so the record labels know what you believe. Secondly you aren't paying for the music, you are paying for the membership which goes towards paying for servers, site maintenance, etc. There was a time when a 12" record cost $4.99-$5.99. So for that price you got an extended version, club mix, maybe a dub version, acapella if you were lucky and that was it. Buy 5 records a week and you pay $25-$30 a week or 20 records for $100-$120 a month. Now I pay $43 a month for music and can download hundreds of tracks. I don't have to search torrents, its all legal and a bargain from the amount it once was. The part that bothers me about your posts is your sense of entitlement which is a major problem in our society today. Everyone believes that everything should be handed to them for nothing. You have the nerve to say you work for your car, food, phone, place to live, internet, and take no consideration at all on any level for the artists, producers, engineers, that make the music that you are stealing. You aren't getting it for free, you are STEALING. Do you walk into a store pick something off the shelf and walk out of the store with it and then claim you were just "getting it for free?" What about if your boss just decided not to pay you anymore. Boss doesn't care about your money, the boss has overhead, phone lines to pay for, rent, insurance, and just decides, you know I'm not paying you anymore because I have a car, food, place to live, and internet to pay for, you will have to work for free, I don't need to support you. Talk about getting real? Really?
Jerica Salava 19.06.2012	Welcome to 2012 photojojo I remember digging for vinyl (when I made less money than today) and paying $10 for records. Music has been made expendable by radio and clubs promoting VIP bottles. No one is going to play David Guetta 10 years from now (except David Guetta) and these kids know that.
Margie Pavell 19.06.2012	Thanks PJJ... i would like to make a bet that the majority of EDM being torrented is dubstep and electro house...
Leeanna Ayla 19.06.2012	Everybody should read this. http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/...gs-considered/
Leeanna Ayla 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE lol. I dont know about you guys, but I work my ass off all month to barely afford having a car, phone, place to live, food, and internet access. Tell me about it. I work for a newspaper and they're laying people off left and right and I get paid a pittance because everybody gets the paper for free on the internet. Sometimes I wonder why I have a job because any kid with a camera can take pictures. Sure they'll most likely not be nearly as good as mine because they didn't get the upgraded package with their digital rebel that includes the talent plugin.</sarcasm> Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE Why should i pay 2.00$ for a house track that in all honesty isnt really all that original and is most likely a remix of a remix or very similar to something somebody else did years ago. You obviously don't know much about digging for music. That in itself is imo the core of what we do. If you don't know how to find good music you should perhaps find another hobby. Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE Well maybe you can afford to purchase your insanely overpriced mp3/wav/aac/flac/ what have you. 99 cents is insanely overpriced? Beatport has tons of stuff for $1.49 sure it may not be the newest, but it's still good. Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE Maybe im approaching in this in the wrong tone. I believe that music should never come with a price tag and should be separated from monetary value. For that music is truly a gift and that we should never take ownership over. the only exception to me is live performance, but only then your still just borrowing it. Hence I ain't paying for no mp3. I don't even know what to say to this.
Jerlene Jernegan 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE Maybe im approaching in this in the wrong tone. I believe that music should never come with a price tag and should be separated from monetary value. For that music is truly a gift and that we should never take ownership over. the only exception to me is live performance, but only then your still just borrowing it. Hence I ain't paying for no mp3. But the thing is, the artist made the song. They sat down and used their time to make it, so since they put in their effort and it's actual physical data, like you could burn it to a CD, we should definitely have to pay for it. Very little is free in this world, and music will always be sold. Do I agree with paying $2.50 a somg? No but its something I have to deal with. Cheers!!
Werner Bile 19.06.2012	As long as you practice what you preach and are also against DJs ever being paid to perform as well.
Eileen Sailes 19.06.2012	Maybe im approaching in this in the wrong tone. I believe that music should never come with a price tag and should be separated from monetary value. For that music is truly a gift and that we should never take ownership over. the only exception to me is live performance, but only then your still just borrowing it. Hence I ain't paying for no mp3.
Jerlene Jernegan 19.06.2012	I can't believe I'm about to say this on here but if its a full album I've heard online and I want to download it, I often torrent it in full 320kbps and then donate to the artist directly through their website, as that way they get the direct money and get more than normal due to recording labels, the marketplace, etc, taking massive cuts if I were to buy off of beatport or other like that. The artists actually end up making more money that way. To expand upon this: I'm young enough that I don't even remember a time without online music and MP3's, so it feels amazing to go out to a store and buy a physical album sometimes too, if I'm not doing the above or buying on Beat Port. I just love being able to hold the music in my hand.
Freida Leash 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE Why should i pay 2.00$ for a house track that in all honesty isnt really all that original and is most likely a remix of a remix or very similar to something somebody else did years ago. I pass on buying tracks all the time that I don't want. If you don't want it why have it? I'm a fan of SoundCloud, some freebies from quality top tier producers, a landslide to dig thru of other tracks to get something decent. In the end though buying a track isn't supporting Time Warner, Sony, etc, it is supporting the artists that are taking the effort to put out the music you want to play.
Eileen Sailes 19.06.2012	Originally Posted by MWagner If you have so little respect for the artists and the quality of their music, why do you want it in the first place? Most dance music labels are hardly part of "big recording", a good number barely break even. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for " sharing music ideas and samples". Luckily enough, two of my favorite producers are as well and I do get a fair amount of music for free from soundcloud. But it's up to the artist to decide if their music is going to be available as a free download, not you. You talk about working for a living, well the artists are working for a living too. Well maybe you can afford to purchase your insanely overpriced mp3/wav/aac/flac/ what have you. But I live in the real world, maybe if they actually priced the music at a reasonable price i might purchase my music. Most the bootlegged artists do just fine, getting paid outrageous amounts to perform at clubs and festivals. I sleep just fine at evening . Music should forever be free and will always be free so long as people like continue to share. The advancements in music would not be what it is today if wasn't for the internet and sharing.
Werner Bile 20.06.2012	Originally Posted by GIRLCHEESE lol. I dont know about you guys, but I work my ass off all month to barely afford having a car, phone, place to live, food, and internet access. You all are tripping for buying your music. I have, and will always support the sharing of music files. Why should i pay 2.00$ for a house track that in all honesty isnt really all that original and is most likely a remix of a remix or very similar to something somebody else did years ago. If you have so little respect for the artists and the quality of their music, why do you want it in the first place? One of the great things of producing music and mixing that i will always be an advocate for is sharing music ideas and samples, my mom would be disappointed in me if i paid for something i could get for free. DOWNLOAD IT FOR FREE! There are a ton of options to do so. Fuck the record industry and big recording! Aint getting a dime from me unless i cant find it for free!. GET REAL! Most dance music labels are hardly part of "big recording", a good number barely break even. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for " sharing music ideas and samples". Luckily enough, two of my favorite producers are as well and I do get a fair amount of music for free from soundcloud. But it's up to the artist to decide if their music is going to be available as a free download, not you. You talk about working for a living, well the artists are working for a living too.
Eileen Sailes 20.06.2012	lol. I dont know about you guys, but I work my ass off all month to barely afford having a car, phone, place to live, food, and internet access. You all are tripping for buying your music. I have, and will always support the sharing of music files. Why should i pay 2.00$ for a house track that in all honesty isnt really all that original and is most likely a remix of a remix or very similar to something somebody else did years ago. One of the great things of producing music and mixing that i will always be an advocate for is sharing music ideas and samples, my mom would be disappointed in me if i paid for something i could get for free. DOWNLOAD IT FOR FREE! There are a ton of options to do so. Fuck the record industry and big recording! Aint getting a dime from me unless i cant find it for free!. GET REAL!
Lashawn Maycock 15.06.2012	Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk my 2 cents on the torrent/piracy issue...once upon a time, when i first started, 13 years go this summer, we could only buy music on vinyl...the habit sticks (buying, not vinyl lol). This, exactly. Since going digital 18 months ago I'm now saving a huge amount on buying music, so I'm more than happy to pay my way. At the peak in the late 90's thorough to mid 2000's I was regularly spending
Roseanna Signorini 14.06.2012	Originally Posted by Tasrgunzapzap A lot of people mentioning Djcity record pool. It seems great and i was reading more about it. Do the songs you download only last 6-8 months? as in i would have a bunch of unplayable files after that time? or they are only available for download for 6-8 months? Quote from website: "How long are these tracks accessible for? 6-8 months. We are not a MP3 download site folks. The music available on our service is for audio professionals and the timeframe for this promotional material does have an expiration date. Remember, you are not purchasing these songs, but are given access to play (break) the music." Thanks! Really? Do you believe DJ City has some new MP3 that all of a sudden becomes unplayable after 7 months?? It says ACESSIBLE. It is only ACCESSIBLE for 6-8 months. Thesite will only make it ACCESSIBLE to download for 6-8 months.
Nedra Fresneda 14.06.2012	Originally Posted by faderswagger Didn't realize the folks on this community were so into their music being legal. Originally Posted by BFLY What % of DJTT users do you believe use torrents for their music? I ask because no-one has said that they do. Why? are they shy about admitting it on here do you believe? Maybe because media piracy is against the community rules
Karoline Leeper 14.06.2012	A lot of people mentioning Djcity record pool. It seems great and i was reading more about it. Do the songs you download only last 6-8 months? as in i would have a bunch of unplayable files after that time? or they are only available for download for 6-8 months? Quote from website: "How long are these tracks accessible for? 6-8 months. We are not a MP3 download site folks. The music available on our service is for audio professionals and the timeframe for this promotional material does have an expiration date. Remember, you are not purchasing these songs, but are given access to play (break) the music." Thanks!
Werner Bile 14.06.2012	I know I get tempted to go the pirate route frequently because there's always more music I want then money to buy it, but I don't do it for the simple reason that if I like someone's music, I'd like them to get paid for it so they'll be able to make more.
Teresia Janusch 14.06.2012	my 2 cents on the torrent/piracy issue...once upon a time, when i first started, 13 years go this summer, we could only buy music on vinyl...the habit sticks (buying, not vinyl lol).
Glennis Bischoff 14.06.2012	Originally Posted by 3heads And apart from all that: there is more to actually buying your MP3s (or whatever format you prefer) than the question of legality. true as well, i decided to leave that out as i was just replying to the question of pirating and torrenting what most countries qualify as illegal. there's also the fact that many exclusive releases can only be obtained through sources like beatport or record pools. the mixes are so rare that you have to be part of these programs to get them. then there is audio quality, and a plethora of other things to consider. its usually easiest to just straight up pay for the songs and move on than it is to try and track down another download of it.
Janella Gripe 14.06.2012	iTunes and beatport

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