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Traktor Pro 2.6 - TTM56 - Audio8 - Send/Return FX
Posted on: 08.11.2012 by Albertina Fay
I currently have my TTM56 paired up with an Audio8 for DVS.

The third channel on the Audio8 is being used for Send/Return FX to the TTM56's FlexFX. (Sort of the way Traktor Bible explains here)

I would like to know if there is a way to increase the gain on the Traktor's Send/Return return channel (Audio8's 3rd channel) through Traktor? When the Dry/Wet is at 50% on the mixer, the FX volume in this case (Delay FX), is just a little lower that what I want it to be when it is activated.

Any suggestions?
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
Got any ideas for an Ecler NUO4??
Should be the same thing.. You will need to sacrifice a Traktor deck.
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
Not something I've tried myself even though I have an Audio8, I noticed a very low output when using normal vinyl, but after reading I saw that you can up the input gains in the control panel. I'm wondering if that will help.

If I have some time today, I'll try setting up like you and test my theory.

Second thought would be using something like a DI box (in-line preamps) to boost the signal. I've not found that the output signals were low, only the inputs.
Thanks, JSM. Unfortunately, the gain controls in the control panel or the A8 is only for the Phono Inputs.

Originally Posted by oneapemob
Worst case scenario, you'll have to work around it, here's how :

Instead of putting one or several of you fx slot in send/external mode, leave them "normal", then you'll have to sacrifica one of traktor's deck, let's say deck C.

In traktor's sound input option, select the line input you want to use for your ttm's fx send/return on deck C, and do the same for the output section. Now assign the fx slots you want to use to deck C, and don't forget to set the dry/wet on the fx to 100%, because you will be controlling it with your mixer.

Lastly, click on the deck letter C, select external input as deck mode. Tada ! you now have gain and eq available for your send return. You just had to sacrifice a deck to have it

Hope that helps!
Thanks, oneapemob!!! This is a great idea and probably going to be my best bet.

When I use my TTM56, I really only 2 channels (I pretty much use the TTM when I want to practice some scratching and Hip-Hop mixing), so using the 3rd deck for Send/Return will be fine.

I would love if NI adds a gain control for the proper Send/Return config they have implemented in the software. Maybe in a future update.
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by SirReal
The Flex FX says it's post fader and post cross fader so "get your gain staging right". If you're questioning it, then learn about signal flow and levels.
I know it is post fader and cross fader.

Not sure if you are trying to help, or just trying to be a smart ass.

My gain levels are where they should be and I am sure that is not my problem.

If you are making a statement, it would be a good idea to end it with a period or an exclamation point, not a question mark.
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by SirReal
Get your gain staging right?
???
Albertina Fay
08.11.2012		I currently have my TTM56 paired up with an Audio8 for DVS.

The third channel on the Audio8 is being used for Send/Return FX to the TTM56's FlexFX. (Sort of the way Traktor Bible explains here)

I would like to know if there is a way to increase the gain on the Traktor's Send/Return return channel (Audio8's 3rd channel) through Traktor? When the Dry/Wet is at 50% on the mixer, the FX volume in this case (Delay FX), is just a little lower that what I want it to be when it is activated.

Any suggestions?
Xenia Gorin
14.11.2012		Worked like a charm! I believe its time to trade in the 8 for a 10, lol!!

Thanks for the info and help!
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by soundinsurgent712
Got any ideas for an Ecler NUO4??
Should be the same thing.. You will need to sacrifice a Traktor deck.
Xenia Gorin
14.11.2012		Got any ideas for an Ecler NUO4??
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
Not something I've tried myself even though I have an Audio8, I noticed a very low output when using normal vinyl, but after reading I saw that you can up the input gains in the control panel. I'm wondering if that will help.

If I have some time today, I'll try setting up like you and test my theory.

Second thought would be using something like a DI box (in-line preamps) to boost the signal. I've not found that the output signals were low, only the inputs.
Thanks, JSM. Unfortunately, the gain controls in the control panel or the A8 is only for the Phono Inputs.

Originally Posted by oneapemob
Worst case scenario, you'll have to work around it, here's how :

Instead of putting one or several of you fx slot in send/external mode, leave them "normal", then you'll have to sacrifica one of traktor's deck, let's say deck C.

In traktor's sound input option, select the line input you want to use for your ttm's fx send/return on deck C, and do the same for the output section. Now assign the fx slots you want to use to deck C, and don't forget to set the dry/wet on the fx to 100%, because you will be controlling it with your mixer.

Lastly, click on the deck letter C, select external input as deck mode. Tada ! you now have gain and eq available for your send return. You just had to sacrifice a deck to have it

Hope that helps!
Thanks, oneapemob!!! This is a great idea and probably going to be my best bet.

When I use my TTM56, I really only 2 channels (I pretty much use the TTM when I want to practice some scratching and Hip-Hop mixing), so using the 3rd deck for Send/Return will be fine.

I would love if NI adds a gain control for the proper Send/Return config they have implemented in the software. Maybe in a future update.
Bertie Metro
14.11.2012		Worst case scenario, you'll have to work around it, here's how :

Instead of putting one or several of you fx slot in send/external mode, leave them "normal", then you'll have to sacrifica one of traktor's deck, let's say deck C.

In traktor's sound input option, select the line input you want to use for your ttm's fx send/return on deck C, and do the same for the output section. Now assign the fx slots you want to use to deck C, and don't forget to set the dry/wet on the fx to 100%, because you will be controlling it with your mixer.

Lastly, click on the deck letter C, select external input as deck mode. Tada ! you now have gain and eq available for your send return. You just had to sacrifice a deck to have it

Hope that helps!
Faustino Stringfellow
14.11.2012		Not something I've tried myself even though I have an Audio8, I noticed a very low output when using normal vinyl, but after reading I saw that you can up the input gains in the control panel. I'm wondering if that will help.

If I have some time today, I'll try setting up like you and test my theory.

Second thought would be using something like a DI box (in-line preamps) to boost the signal. I've not found that the output signals were low, only the inputs.
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by SirReal
The Flex FX says it's post fader and post cross fader so "get your gain staging right". If you're questioning it, then learn about signal flow and levels.
I know it is post fader and cross fader.

Not sure if you are trying to help, or just trying to be a smart ass.

My gain levels are where they should be and I am sure that is not my problem.

If you are making a statement, it would be a good idea to end it with a period or an exclamation point, not a question mark.
Antonetta Wikel
14.11.2012		The Flex FX says it's post fader and post cross fader so "get your gain staging right". If you're questioning it, then learn about signal flow and levels.
Albertina Fay
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by SirReal
Get your gain staging right?
???
Antonetta Wikel
14.11.2012		Get your gain staging right?
Xenia Gorin
14.11.2012		What do you mean 'dummy connectors '?
Xenia Gorin
12.11.2012		I have the same problem with my Audio8, I need more volume. I run in and out of 7/8 using an Ecler NUO4.
Maryanna Murchie
12.11.2012		I use the A6 .......

I run the return in2 the aux in for more volume.......but you have to put dummy connectors in the return....
Albertina Fay
12.11.2012		anyone?

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