Replacement Knobs for Denon X1600???

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Replacement Knobs for Denon X1600???
Posted on: 26.02.2013 by Shad Rametta
So I just bought a new Denon X1600......I LOVE it!
Best sounding mixer I've ever had.
Brightest & most accurate VU meters I've seen on a mixer in it's price range!

But, because of those bright VU meters I have a hard time seeing the position of the
EQs when playing in very dark environments. It's strange, you would believe that it would
illuminate them better, but it doesn't, it just washes them out, like they're not even there.

I bought some Yellow Chroma Caps for the Volume Faders, so that's covered. But,
unfortunately, the X1600's Potentiometer Posts won't match up w' the Chroma Caps
so that they would represent their true frequency value.

Do any of Y'all have any ideas for brighter colored knobs for the X1600's EQ section?
I thought about just painting the existing ones a lighter, brighter color, but that's kinda'
ghetto, and besides I would be worried about the paint eventually flaking off and getting
into the rotary Pots & Sliders. I also thought about just getting a small LED light, but I've
had those in the past, and they always end up broken, lost, or stolen.

I need some help Ya'll.......THX in advance.
Gaynell Rydberg
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlayForMoney
I'm believeing of buying a single Fatty Croma Cap instead of Denon's OEM for the filter and drilling the center, filling it with hot glue and molding it to fit the Denon stem.
Would hot glue withstand teh constant rubbing though?

Maybe you could make a mold of the stem then use epoxy or something.
Latoria Kavulich
01.12.2013
dang, cheers
Alphonso Deitchman
01.12.2013
There are no 90 degree fatty knobs or any glow in the dark at the moment. The only options are regular "Super" knobs in Green, Blue, and Grey.
Latoria Kavulich
01.12.2013
and the same on the DJM600, so i might go for a set of glow in the dark fattyknobs for the denon then.
Alphonso Deitchman
01.12.2013
DJM 900 in central position, and with X1 knob:



The original Pioneer cap:
http://i.imgur.com/ipf4vpQ.png
Latoria Kavulich
01.12.2013



(turned full left)
Latoria Kavulich
01.12.2013
just took a couple of snaps, hold up
Alphonso Deitchman
01.12.2013
The X1 knobs are offset 90 degrees clockwise on my DJM, so I guess that means the new 90 degree Chroma Caps should fit the X1600 too.
Latoria Kavulich
01.12.2013
fit wise the knobs sit nice and snug, the offset is 90% clockwise. i haven't looked into the djtt knobs tbh, if they go anticlockwise then i guess you would be right about the 180% offset
Alphonso Deitchman
01.12.2013
Which direction are they offset? They're on the "No" list for Chroma Caps knobs, and selecting the DN-X1600 in the DJTT store doesn't bring up any compatible knobs.

Is that due to rotation or height, or is the database just out of date?
Latoria Kavulich
01.12.2013
makar, they are 90% (just checked)
Alphonso Deitchman
01.12.2013
The A+H and Pioneer DJTT knobs are offset by 90 degrees, whereas I'm guessing from the posts in this thread that Denon uses knobs offset by 180 degrees.
Katelyn Hoctor
01.12.2013
to my understanding DJTT now sell chroma caps designed for A&H mixers with the inverted indicator line
Chrissy Kynard
01.12.2013
Alright everybody, I believe I found a solution to our woes: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...obs%26_arr%3D1

This page has a numerous sellers selling similar d shafts with a wide variety of colors. Best thing about them is that they fix the issue with the chroma caps! The indicator is made on the removable color cap, enabling you to re-position it to wherever the potentiometer ends. I haven't yet purchased them, but I leaning towards doing so. The only issue I see with them is that they are molded with hard plastic, rather than the soft, injection-molded plastic of chroma caps... so it may be a style v. comfort debate.
Shad Rametta
05.04.2013
Sorry to wake up an old thread, haven't been on in a while
No need to be sorry. It's an ongoing thread until one of us finds a solution.
Gaynell Rydberg
04.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlayForMoney
I'm believeing of buying a single Fatty Croma Cap instead of Denon's OEM for the filter and drilling the center, filling it with hot glue and molding it to fit the Denon stem.
Would hot glue withstand teh constant rubbing though?

Maybe you could make a mold of the stem then use epoxy or something.
Isa Erik
04.04.2013
I'm believeing of buying a single Fatty Croma Cap instead of Denon's OEM for the filter and drilling the center, filling it with hot glue and molding it to fit the Denon stem.
Shan Bauerly
04.04.2013
Sorry to wake up an old thread, haven't been on in a while. - I light my 1600 from above by velcro-ing an LED strip light to the bottom of the laptop. Of course, this only works if you have your lappy on a stand above the mixer - Personally, I believe the factory knobs feel great. I did, however, replace the fader caps with A&H style finger sliders. Love my 1600.
Joya Heiberg
12.03.2013
Originally Posted by djproben
No, I mean you should try asking Denon? Perhaps you already have but that's certainly where I would start.
Lol ohhh. I'll do that.
Danae Dumler
12.03.2013
No, I mean you should try asking Denon? Perhaps you already have but that's certainly where I would start.
Joya Heiberg
13.03.2013
Originally Posted by djproben
Denon?
Yes.
Danae Dumler
13.03.2013
Originally Posted by bassgoesmeow
Anyone know where I can find just standard replacement knobs? I came across a fantastic deal on an X1600, but it's missing about 10 knobs or so. Any help is much appreciated!
Denon?
Joya Heiberg
12.03.2013
Anyone know where I can find just standard replacement knobs? I came across a fantastic deal on an X1600, but it's missing about 10 knobs or so. Any help is much appreciated!
Gaynell Rydberg
28.02.2013
Welp. Turns out this is going to be way too expensive to run in small batches.
Kiyoko Wellisch
28.02.2013
Huh, didn't know A&H was in there
Latoria Kavulich
28.02.2013
D+M holdings. Denon, A+H, Marantz
Kiyoko Wellisch
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I know A&H and Denon are offset since they're the same company.
Say whaaaaaaa
Gaynell Rydberg
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by blackavenger
You know, I was unaware of the fact that the Pioneer and Allen & Heath mixers were offset as well.
Are they offset in the same way as the Denon's? I mean, do the 3 of them all line up the same way?
If so, it would be in DJTT's best interest to develop a line for just those 3 manufacturers. I mean, how
many peeps out there own Pioneer, A&H, and Denon gear.......I would say the majority of DJs that own
mixers, have one of those major 3 company's products.

I wonder if that's in the works?
Well, it would only work if they did all match up.

Is there anyone out there that has the means to test this?
I know A&H and Denon are offset since they're the same company. Didn't know Pioneer fell under that umbrella too.

Pioneer is the only one I can't test, but I have a Denon MC3000 coming in. This would help though in pushing my friend to make some since Pioneer is huge. I was worried it was just Denon/A&H.
Shad Rametta
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
they fit but for the denons they have the same issue as the A&H & pio mixer i.e the indicator lines are offset.
You know, I was unaware of the fact that the Pioneer and Allen & Heath mixers were offset as well.
Are they offset in the same way as the Denon's? I mean, do the 3 of them all line up the same way?
If so, it would be in DJTT's best interest to develop a line for just those 3 manufacturers. I mean, how
many peeps out there own Pioneer, A&H, and Denon gear.......I would say the majority of DJs that own
mixers, have one of those major 3 company's products.

I wonder if that's in the works?
Well, it would only work if they did all match up.

Is there anyone out there that has the means to test this?
Shad Rametta
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
just sharpie it in yourself :P
LOL, no thanks, Man. If I'm gonna' do some ghetto shizz like that, I might as well just paint the
one's I currently have w' rubber/plastics paint. As a matter of fact, I believe I may just do that....
see how it turns out. Though, before I even attempt it, I'll have to buy a replacement set in case
the results are less than satisfactory.

I'll keep Y'all posted.
Gaynell Rydberg
28.02.2013
Okay.

I know that the Chromacaps do fit, but the indicator lines are reversed, so if the indicator lines add too much for a cost (like +1 or 2 bucks per knob) then would you be fine with no indicator line? You'd be able to just sharpie it in yourself :P
Shad Rametta
28.02.2013
Originally Posted by slvrdragon50
would you guys be willing to pay more than a chromacap (smaller production size, will cost more)?
ABSOLUTELY!!

What color do you really want if the colors are limited?
Anything other than Black. But I believe a light Grey, or White, or something bold
like Yellow would be ideal. The key is that the indicator lines on the pots are
lined in Black, rather than White...you know, just like the Yellow, Grey, Green,
and GND Chromacaps are! A lighter colored knob w' a contrasting Black indication
line is what will pop out in dark environments.
Gaynell Rydberg
28.02.2013
I just sent my friend a message. I don't know if he's still working on plastic on his free time, but it's worth a shot.

Would you guys be willing to pay more than a chromacap (smaller production size, will cost more)? What color do you really want if the colors are limited?
Shad Rametta
28.02.2013
Yeah, I wanted the X1700, but I couldn't justify it. I mean at that price point, I could just as easily
buy a Xone:92 & a few pedals....or even a Xone DB2 for that matter. No, the X1600 was within my
budget this time around, so I have to figure out some way to make those knobs work out. At this
stage I cannot believe about replacing a mixer I have only had for a week.
I have to make due with what I have.

If anyone figures something out, please let us know.......I will do the same.
Danae Dumler
27.02.2013
Good reason to trade up to the X1700 - illuminated knobs!
Gaynell Rydberg
27.02.2013
If enough people are interested, I could see if I can get my friend to make a mold to start making the knobs.
Shad Rametta
27.02.2013
Ah, that sucks. Can't really fix that so easily.
Nope.

I was hoping that someone could chime in with a different mixer whose knobs would fit the X1600/1700
and happened to be of a lighter shade than traditional black. Hell, at this point I would take any color
other than black. Does anyone know if Ecler knobs would fit and not be offset? Those knobs on the
EVO-4 look just as beefy as the X1600's, and they are silver....LOL, those bright silvery things could
probably produce their own light in a dark club/rave.
Kiyoko Wellisch
27.02.2013
Ah, that sucks. Can't really fix that so easily.
Latoria Kavulich
27.02.2013
they fit but for the denons they have the same issue as the A&H & pio mixer i.e the indicator lines are offset.
Kiyoko Wellisch
27.02.2013
How come the DJTT knobs don't fit? Do they sit too low or does it not fit on the stem or something?

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