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Ultra DJ's trainwrecking???
Posted on: 23.03.2013 by Meaghan Machold
Is it me, or has anyone who's been watching any of Ultra noticed alot of DJ's trainwrecking. I noticed Tiesto the first week, right now Laidback Luke has trainwrecked about 3 times in 20 minutes... and I def remember some from last week, just can't put a name on it. Makes you wonder/realize that not all producers are set out to be DJs, but theyre paid to go out their and perform cause their songs are famous. Not hating, I'm super jealous of all of em, but theres def been more than a fair share of trainwrecks.
Emelina Paglia
05.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'd rather see a DJ trainwrecking than playing a pre-recorded set like Hardwell.

Still, I'm really starting to get the feeling that these people should leave DJing to the rest of us and focus on producing.
Didn't you just post a video recently on not to hate on DJs?
Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
He's coming out with a new one very soon. The thing is, this is why he has to push play, because he puts on a full show. It has a lot of visuals that go into the set, and a lot of effects. So it's not like he can just go up and throw in diff tracks here and there. I will say this, I do appreciate his show and the craftsmanship as well as the thought that went into it.
There was an interview on how he syncs everything together. He's not just pressing play, he's having a signal sent to the light guys that program the lighting accordingly...
Dino Hapgood
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
Is it me, or has anyone who's been watching any of Ultra noticed alot of DJ's trainwrecking. I noticed Tiesto the first week, right now Laidback Luke has trainwrecked about 3 times in 20 minutes... and I def remember some from last week, just can't put a name on it. Makes you wonder/realize that not all producers are set out to be DJs, but theyre paid to go out their and perform cause their songs are famous. Not hating, I'm super jealous of all of em, but theres def been more than a fair share of trainwrecks.
I was at Wk 1 so a few notes:
A) laidback luke IS a DJ. And a good one at that. He's been djing for like 15 years. I went to his set and it was awesome, no audible mistakes, and I notice them.

B) the livestreams/recordings suck.

C) the sound techs get tired. During Armin's closing set, the sound tech was pushing the SPL and the delay on the arrays and subs was so off that the bass was hitting you probably 15-20 milliseconds late by the end of his set. Even my non-DJ friends could tell, and we were all out of our minds. It was fucking awful.

D) mistakes happen. Train wrecks are actually a GOOD thing. It means the DJ is earning his pay and not playing some recorded mix. With the way Laidback Luke plays it doesn't surprise me that he train wrecks every now and then.
Pam Stolley
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by Student
Any one got the Dillon Francis thing on video?
here you go.



funny how the crowd cheers when he says my bad. as they say, it's not the crime, it's the cover up.
Scottie Pazin
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by GeekGod
Uhm yeah, OK. I've heard many of the acts on the 'main stages' regurgitating the same songs over and over the last 3 days. Electro is the most replayed nonsense I have ever heard - same stuff over and over. No offense to anyone - there is plenty of awesome electro these guys just choose to circle jerk each other.
Although your choice of words tint your point, I believe i can agree to some extent. There are thousands of new songs released per day, it tough to walk through a festival and of the 3 stages and several artists, I've noticed a sort of "safety set" of songs used as intro or outros.

While it isn't expected for every song to mixed, there should be an element of risk in creativity. If you watch live rock/disco/rap shows in person or recorded you'll notice minor errors which add character to the "live" music.

I'm not suggesting we start mixing without headphones and mixing polar opposite music, I'm just suggesting we as DJ's set a trend of fearlessness.
Rosina Steinkuehler
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I've been listening to the stream. SHM was the first time I hear Don't you Worry Child.

Maybe on the smaller stages they've been playing it, but not on the stream.

I honestly don't believe it's that bad considering how all these producers are collaborating to produce big hits and remixing each other.
Uhm yeah, OK. I've heard many of the acts on the 'main stages' regurgitating the same songs over and over the last 3 days. Electro is the most replayed nonsense I have ever heard - same stuff over and over. No offense to anyone - there is plenty of awesome electro these guys just choose to circle jerk each other.
Valeri Holderness
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by BestLegsinHD
i caught martin solveigs set online last year. he train-wrecked most of his set. though i liked the individual songs he played, they didnt really....flow...together
saw martin solveig last summer and he played the worst set i've heard in my life
Augustine Mitzen
05.05.2013		i believe you lot are confusing trainwrecking with clashing when tracks get slightly out of time.
the clashing is acceptable, but i don't want to see DJ trainwrecking

no one wants to hear stuff like this
Emelina Paglia
05.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'd rather see a DJ trainwrecking than playing a pre-recorded set like Hardwell.

Still, I'm really starting to get the feeling that these people should leave DJing to the rest of us and focus on producing.
Didn't you just post a video recently on not to hate on DJs?
Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
He's coming out with a new one very soon. The thing is, this is why he has to push play, because he puts on a full show. It has a lot of visuals that go into the set, and a lot of effects. So it's not like he can just go up and throw in diff tracks here and there. I will say this, I do appreciate his show and the craftsmanship as well as the thought that went into it.
There was an interview on how he syncs everything together. He's not just pressing play, he's having a signal sent to the light guys that program the lighting accordingly...
Dino Hapgood
27.03.2013
Originally Posted by djmetalgear
Is it me, or has anyone who's been watching any of Ultra noticed alot of DJ's trainwrecking. I noticed Tiesto the first week, right now Laidback Luke has trainwrecked about 3 times in 20 minutes... and I def remember some from last week, just can't put a name on it. Makes you wonder/realize that not all producers are set out to be DJs, but theyre paid to go out their and perform cause their songs are famous. Not hating, I'm super jealous of all of em, but theres def been more than a fair share of trainwrecks.
I was at Wk 1 so a few notes:
A) laidback luke IS a DJ. And a good one at that. He's been djing for like 15 years. I went to his set and it was awesome, no audible mistakes, and I notice them.

B) the livestreams/recordings suck.

C) the sound techs get tired. During Armin's closing set, the sound tech was pushing the SPL and the delay on the arrays and subs was so off that the bass was hitting you probably 15-20 milliseconds late by the end of his set. Even my non-DJ friends could tell, and we were all out of our minds. It was fucking awful.

D) mistakes happen. Train wrecks are actually a GOOD thing. It means the DJ is earning his pay and not playing some recorded mix. With the way Laidback Luke plays it doesn't surprise me that he train wrecks every now and then.
Lilliana Perris
27.03.2013		Yep, its how to handle the fuck ups and fix on the fly.

Thats where the skill and experience comes in.

If its a major one....acknowledge it and laugh at yourself a bit.

No one is perfect...anything can happen.

Glitch...needle skip...monitoring issues....etc.
Pam Stolley
26.03.2013		video fixed...
Pam Stolley
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by Student
Any one got the Dillon Francis thing on video?
here you go.



funny how the crowd cheers when he says my bad. as they say, it's not the crime, it's the cover up.
Scottie Pazin
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by GeekGod
Uhm yeah, OK. I've heard many of the acts on the 'main stages' regurgitating the same songs over and over the last 3 days. Electro is the most replayed nonsense I have ever heard - same stuff over and over. No offense to anyone - there is plenty of awesome electro these guys just choose to circle jerk each other.
Although your choice of words tint your point, I believe i can agree to some extent. There are thousands of new songs released per day, it tough to walk through a festival and of the 3 stages and several artists, I've noticed a sort of "safety set" of songs used as intro or outros.

While it isn't expected for every song to mixed, there should be an element of risk in creativity. If you watch live rock/disco/rap shows in person or recorded you'll notice minor errors which add character to the "live" music.

I'm not suggesting we start mixing without headphones and mixing polar opposite music, I'm just suggesting we as DJ's set a trend of fearlessness.
Rosina Steinkuehler
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I've been listening to the stream. SHM was the first time I hear Don't you Worry Child.

Maybe on the smaller stages they've been playing it, but not on the stream.

I honestly don't believe it's that bad considering how all these producers are collaborating to produce big hits and remixing each other.
Uhm yeah, OK. I've heard many of the acts on the 'main stages' regurgitating the same songs over and over the last 3 days. Electro is the most replayed nonsense I have ever heard - same stuff over and over. No offense to anyone - there is plenty of awesome electro these guys just choose to circle jerk each other.
Valeri Holderness
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by BestLegsinHD
i caught martin solveigs set online last year. he train-wrecked most of his set. though i liked the individual songs he played, they didnt really....flow...together
saw martin solveig last summer and he played the worst set i've heard in my life
Gaynell Rydberg
24.03.2013		I've been listening to the stream. SHM was the first time I hear Don't you Worry Child.

Maybe on the smaller stages they've been playing it, but not on the stream.

I honestly don't believe it's that bad considering how all these producers are collaborating to produce big hits and remixing each other.
Rosina Steinkuehler
24.03.2013		Live or you there? I am in Miami and had 3 day pass.
Gaynell Rydberg
24.03.2013		I haven't heard Don't You Worry Child once all day and I've been listening since ~3.
Rosina Steinkuehler
24.03.2013		I have heard the same songs over and over and over. It's like a broken record.
Gaynell Rydberg
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by GeekGod
Why is it that all the big name DJs play the same shia? If I hear dont you worry child another time I am going to cry.
What are you talking about?
Rosina Steinkuehler
24.03.2013		Why is it that all the big name DJs play the same shia? If I hear dont you worry child another time I am going to cry.
Trula Willadsen
24.03.2013		What happened?
Carlee Pickard
24.03.2013		Haha poor Sander just now :P.
Delfina Suedmeyer
25.03.2013
Originally Posted by KS2
I don't know about the Ultra side of things but I know for the other stuff the DJs kind of see it as a break and a huge get-together for them in Miami.
agreed.
Trula Willadsen
24.03.2013		Any one got the Dillon Francis thing on video?
Shawn Vanhaitsma
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
He did the same set on purpose. Thought it wasn't fair to play two different sets for the different weeks (not bad IMO).
Deadmau5 only plays his tracks, and he normally only plays his EPs in order. He complains about festivals like hes some kind of god. But even admits he doesnt play almost any of his stuff live at larger shows, he just plays his tracks one after another in Ableton most of the time until his new "game changing live setup" starts being used

So I agree.. his sets have been boring since after the first time I heard him. His music just isnt for me.. and definitely idiotic to put him on main stage. Especially the first weekend, based on who got the shaft on smaller stages because of gimpy Rat boy.
Latina Samon
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by sicnarf033
i would say most of them are drunk while their up there. while that may seem very unprofessional because people pay a lot of money to go to these events, its nice to know that, top djs/producers are as human as we are.
I don't know about the Ultra side of things but I know for the other stuff the DJs kind of see it as a break and a huge get-together for them in Miami.
Gaynell Rydberg
24.03.2013
Originally Posted by SJJVEN
I swear deadmau5 has been playing the same set for like 3+ years now... its getting ridiculous!
He did the same set on purpose. Thought it wasn't fair to play two different sets for the different weeks (not bad IMO).
Carlee Pickard
23.03.2013
Originally Posted by SJJVEN
I swear deadmau5 has been playing the same set for like 3+ years now... its getting ridiculous!
He's coming out with a new one very soon. The thing is, this is why he has to push play, because he puts on a full show. It has a lot of visuals that go into the set, and a lot of effects. So it's not like he can just go up and throw in diff tracks here and there. I will say this, I do appreciate his show and the craftsmanship as well as the thought that went into it.
Marcos Zelko
23.03.2013		I swear deadmau5 has been playing the same set for like 3+ years now... its getting ridiculous!
Pam Stolley
23.03.2013		^ pretty sure he forgot the fader up a few times there.
Carlee Pickard
23.03.2013		I believe Deadmau5's set got fucked up too. Cause I watched it last weekend, and then im watching it now again and it seems less smooth (maybe cause i was intoxicated?). However, god damn you can hate him all you want but he's an awesome producer and puts on one hell of a fucking show.
Gaynell Rydberg
23.03.2013
Originally Posted by bluegrassdj
^ I felt the same way when flosstradamus said whoops after they forgot the bass down.

Krewella is really a live act. I've seen them live and the energy in the room is always great when they perform. I got to talk to Rainman after the show and he told me they're still working out the live vocals part. I figured they've have had it worked out for Ultra but I guess not.
Yea, Krewella came to my city and their performance is amazing. Just so explosive!
Pam Stolley
23.03.2013		^ I felt the same way when flosstradamus said whoops after they forgot the bass down.

Krewella is really a live act. I've seen them live and the energy in the room is always great when they perform. I got to talk to Rainman after the show and he told me they're still working out the live vocals part. I figured they've have had it worked out for Ultra but I guess not.
Meaghan Machold
23.03.2013
Originally Posted by sicnarf033
i would say most of them are drunk while their up there. while that may seem very unprofessional because people pay a lot of money to go to these events, its nice to know that, top djs/producers are as human as we are.

for instance, i respect dillon francis for calling himself out in his set when he messed up. it shows hes honest. and dude, backed it up with a dope set, overall.

YES! this! that was awesome. AND I LOVEDIT! but what i mean by trainwrecking is not little imperfections, but i mean entirely dumb things, like i said, cueing up a song and not realizing the volume on that deck is all the way up, and then turning the volume down, and then bringing the song back in.

but no, the dillon francis mess up was amazing. i loved it. it made me smile to see someone screw up and call himself out and start over.
Michell Wehrmeyer
23.03.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'd rather see a DJ trainwrecking than playing a pre-recorded set like Hardwell.

Still, I'm really starting to get the feeling that these people should leave DJing to the rest of us and focus on producing.
Its more profitable if they play their own songs live. + They can get giant groups of people to come see them. I definitely can't get thousands of people to come see me play back a tiesto song, but I'm sure tiesto can
Delfina Suedmeyer
23.03.2013		i would say most of them are drunk while their up there. while that may seem very unprofessional because people pay a lot of money to go to these events, its nice to know that, top djs/producers are as human as we are.

for instance, i respect dillon francis for calling himself out in his set when he messed up. it shows hes honest. and dude, backed it up with a dope set, overall.
Judi Sissel
23.03.2013		Their music is not my cup of tea, but they are putting on a show.

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