Calvin Harris
and Dillon Francis
worked there... no way!
| Tiesto's Hakkasan residency, is this the end of Ibiza? I know this has been discussed thoroughly in other threads, but only now i see that tiesto, harris, deadmau5 and aoki have signed up for actual residencies at the club...
Whaddya believe? | Dannie Dimora
05.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by sdjm
As someone who has had the distinct pleasure of being in Ibiza many times over 20 years, it's not going to happen, Ibiza will remain, evolve, and remain THE world hotspot.
PS: Raiding SSDs is pointless and degrades performance.
I certainly hope so
SSD's, wait what?
EDIT:Oh you're talking about my rig.
Well it works for me, i had a 240gb sammy 840pro and i needed more space, since i didn't want to install all my plugins on 2 different drives i made a raid0 array, and with trim enabled it's screaming fast, def faster than my previous single 840... | Paulene Netz
05.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.
And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still believe there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy...
As someone who has had the distinct pleasure of being in Ibiza many times over 20 years, it's not going to happen, Ibiza will remain, evolve, and remain THE world hotspot.
PS: Raiding SSDs is pointless and degrades performance. | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
I'll try :P i already have the tickets for ultra europe and some other local fests, i'll try saving up some more for ibiza tho :P
If you come let me know, not sure how because I probably won't be coming on here while I'm out there. I might be able to sort out some cheaper tickets though, plus I'll be DJing on Wed evening
s! | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Aha I wasn't trying to win! Come to Ibiza this summer!
I'll try :P i already have the tickets for ultra europe and some other local fests, i'll try saving up some more for ibiza tho :P | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Ok i give up, you win :P
I don't see croatia getting bigger than it already is though ,since croatians don't do anything to promote any kind of tourism, even tho they have amongst the most beautiful coasts on earth.
Ultra is cool and everything, but crime in split is a major problem for example..
Aha I wasn't trying to win! Come to Ibiza this summer and see how glorious it is without those DJs! | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yes
butterface! :P | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Yeah but you implied that those DJs are the only known ones on the island, when in reality the real scene is still thriving.
I've heard people say Ibiza isn't the same as it used to be for different reasons, but when you look at what's going on at the moment there's nothing to complain about. From Steve Lawler and the Viva Warriors crew moving to Sankeys so they could play the music they want despite the pay cut, to the Enter evening
s, to DC10, to Cocoon and all the smaller stuff going on like Departure etc. Then you've got the new club, Bomba, bringing Circus to Ibiza and some other evening
s. And this on top of the other stuff I've already mentioned!
Vegas wasn't forced with casinos, that was natural too. But these days the whole thing in general is quite forced. It's an amazing place though, don't get me wrong. You can't complain at lots of people in one place having fun.
If anywhere is up and coming though, it's Croatia. But that's mostly festivals rather than day in day out, centralised partying.
Ok i give up, you win :P
I don't see croatia getting bigger than it already is though ,since croatians don't do anything to promote any kind of tourism, even tho they have amongst the most beautiful coasts on earth.
Ultra is cool and everything, but crime in split is a major problem for example.. | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Of course it's fake and it's forced, and it sucks, and no, i really wouldn't want vegas replacing ibiza anytime.I utterly love ibiza and its atmosphere.
I agree with everything you said above. But i didn't say ibiza can't exist without those dj's.
Just believe about how forced vegas was with casinos, why wouldn't they try to do it again with music?
Yeah but you implied that those DJs are the only known ones on the island, when in reality the real scene is still thriving.
I've heard people say Ibiza isn't the same as it used to be for different reasons, but when you look at what's going on at the moment there's nothing to complain about. From Steve Lawler and the Viva Warriors crew moving to Sankeys so they could play the music they want despite the pay cut, to the Enter evening
s, to DC10, to Cocoon and all the smaller stuff going on like Departure etc. Then you've got the new club, Bomba, bringing Circus to Ibiza and some other evening
s. And this on top of the other stuff I've already mentioned!
Vegas wasn't forced with casinos, that was natural too. But these days the whole thing in general is quite forced. It's an amazing place though, don't get me wrong. You can't complain at lots of people in one place having fun.
If anywhere is up and coming though, it's Croatia. But that's mostly festivals rather than day in day out, centralised partying. | Doreen Schurle
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
This? really?
Yes | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
So you must realise Ibiza isn't about those DJs? I'm amazed someone who has been believes it couldn't exist without them. What about all the clubs being full to the brim of people on the evening
s where non-commercial stuff is being played? If it means less of the kind of people who come for the West End as if it's Zante or Malia then go and see the only 'big' DJs they've heard of, then it can only be a good thing. Or those who only go to sit on daybeds with their bottle of Grey Goose.
Vegas is nothing like Ibiza. I love Vegas, don't get me wrong, but it's not about music. It's also a lot faker than Ibiza. It's all about the bottle service crowd. Ibiza grew naturally and you still feel that today. Everything Vegas does, at least as far as the tourist industry goes, is forced.
Of course it's fake and it's forced, and it sucks, and no, i really wouldn't want vegas replacing ibiza anytime.I utterly love ibiza and its atmosphere.
I agree with everything you said above. But i didn't say ibiza can't exist without those dj's.
Just believe about how forced vegas was with casinos, why wouldn't they try to do it again with music? | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.
And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still believe there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy...
So you must realise Ibiza isn't about those DJs? I'm amazed someone who has been believes it couldn't exist without them. What about all the clubs being full to the brim of people on the evening
s where non-commercial stuff is being played? If it means less of the kind of people who come for the West End as if it's Zante or Malia then go and see the only 'big' DJs they've heard of, then it can only be a good thing. Or those who only go to sit on daybeds with their bottle of Grey Goose.
Vegas is nothing like Ibiza. I love Vegas, don't get me wrong, but it's not about music. It's also a lot faker than Ibiza. It's all about the bottle service crowd. Ibiza grew naturally and you still feel that today. Everything Vegas does, at least as far as the tourist industry goes, is forced. | Dannie Dimora
05.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by sdjm
As someone who has had the distinct pleasure of being in Ibiza many times over 20 years, it's not going to happen, Ibiza will remain, evolve, and remain THE world hotspot.
PS: Raiding SSDs is pointless and degrades performance.
I certainly hope so
SSD's, wait what?
EDIT:Oh you're talking about my rig.
Well it works for me, i had a 240gb sammy 840pro and i needed more space, since i didn't want to install all my plugins on 2 different drives i made a raid0 array, and with trim enabled it's screaming fast, def faster than my previous single 840... | Paulene Netz
05.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.
And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still believe there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy...
As someone who has had the distinct pleasure of being in Ibiza many times over 20 years, it's not going to happen, Ibiza will remain, evolve, and remain THE world hotspot.
PS: Raiding SSDs is pointless and degrades performance. | Norris Swartzfager
04.05.2013 | ibiza was there long before tiesto and will be long after, sounds to me like they are just shipping the really commercial djs overseas, wich imo is not so bad. | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
I'll try :P i already have the tickets for ultra europe and some other local fests, i'll try saving up some more for ibiza tho :P
If you come let me know, not sure how because I probably won't be coming on here while I'm out there. I might be able to sort out some cheaper tickets though, plus I'll be DJing on Wed evening
s! | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Aha I wasn't trying to win! Come to Ibiza this summer!
I'll try :P i already have the tickets for ultra europe and some other local fests, i'll try saving up some more for ibiza tho :P | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Ok i give up, you win :P
I don't see croatia getting bigger than it already is though ,since croatians don't do anything to promote any kind of tourism, even tho they have amongst the most beautiful coasts on earth.
Ultra is cool and everything, but crime in split is a major problem for example..
Aha I wasn't trying to win! Come to Ibiza this summer and see how glorious it is without those DJs! | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Yes
butterface! :P | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Yeah but you implied that those DJs are the only known ones on the island, when in reality the real scene is still thriving.
I've heard people say Ibiza isn't the same as it used to be for different reasons, but when you look at what's going on at the moment there's nothing to complain about. From Steve Lawler and the Viva Warriors crew moving to Sankeys so they could play the music they want despite the pay cut, to the Enter evening
s, to DC10, to Cocoon and all the smaller stuff going on like Departure etc. Then you've got the new club, Bomba, bringing Circus to Ibiza and some other evening
s. And this on top of the other stuff I've already mentioned!
Vegas wasn't forced with casinos, that was natural too. But these days the whole thing in general is quite forced. It's an amazing place though, don't get me wrong. You can't complain at lots of people in one place having fun.
If anywhere is up and coming though, it's Croatia. But that's mostly festivals rather than day in day out, centralised partying.
Ok i give up, you win :P
I don't see croatia getting bigger than it already is though ,since croatians don't do anything to promote any kind of tourism, even tho they have amongst the most beautiful coasts on earth.
Ultra is cool and everything, but crime in split is a major problem for example.. | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Of course it's fake and it's forced, and it sucks, and no, i really wouldn't want vegas replacing ibiza anytime.I utterly love ibiza and its atmosphere.
I agree with everything you said above. But i didn't say ibiza can't exist without those dj's.
Just believe about how forced vegas was with casinos, why wouldn't they try to do it again with music?
Yeah but you implied that those DJs are the only known ones on the island, when in reality the real scene is still thriving.
I've heard people say Ibiza isn't the same as it used to be for different reasons, but when you look at what's going on at the moment there's nothing to complain about. From Steve Lawler and the Viva Warriors crew moving to Sankeys so they could play the music they want despite the pay cut, to the Enter evening
s, to DC10, to Cocoon and all the smaller stuff going on like Departure etc. Then you've got the new club, Bomba, bringing Circus to Ibiza and some other evening
s. And this on top of the other stuff I've already mentioned!
Vegas wasn't forced with casinos, that was natural too. But these days the whole thing in general is quite forced. It's an amazing place though, don't get me wrong. You can't complain at lots of people in one place having fun.
If anywhere is up and coming though, it's Croatia. But that's mostly festivals rather than day in day out, centralised partying. | Doreen Schurle
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
This? really?
Yes | Irwin Ney
04.05.2013 | Brazilian Psytrance scene is so much better and so much more underground | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
So you must realise Ibiza isn't about those DJs? I'm amazed someone who has been believes it couldn't exist without them. What about all the clubs being full to the brim of people on the evening
s where non-commercial stuff is being played? If it means less of the kind of people who come for the West End as if it's Zante or Malia then go and see the only 'big' DJs they've heard of, then it can only be a good thing. Or those who only go to sit on daybeds with their bottle of Grey Goose.
Vegas is nothing like Ibiza. I love Vegas, don't get me wrong, but it's not about music. It's also a lot faker than Ibiza. It's all about the bottle service crowd. Ibiza grew naturally and you still feel that today. Everything Vegas does, at least as far as the tourist industry goes, is forced.
Of course it's fake and it's forced, and it sucks, and no, i really wouldn't want vegas replacing ibiza anytime.I utterly love ibiza and its atmosphere.
I agree with everything you said above. But i didn't say ibiza can't exist without those dj's.
Just believe about how forced vegas was with casinos, why wouldn't they try to do it again with music? | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 | Yeah, it definitely is more commercial, specially with all these bars like Ocean Beach Club opening up.
It's all about Sankeys this year! (and dc10, obviously) | Janyce Henningson
04.05.2013 | Ibiza is much more commercial now than it used to be but KS2 is right, the vibe is still there in certain places.
Vegas may become a big place to visit for 'EDM' fans but Ibiza will always be Ibiza. | Latina Samon
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.
And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still believe there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy...
So you must realise Ibiza isn't about those DJs? I'm amazed someone who has been believes it couldn't exist without them. What about all the clubs being full to the brim of people on the evening
s where non-commercial stuff is being played? If it means less of the kind of people who come for the West End as if it's Zante or Malia then go and see the only 'big' DJs they've heard of, then it can only be a good thing. Or those who only go to sit on daybeds with their bottle of Grey Goose.
Vegas is nothing like Ibiza. I love Vegas, don't get me wrong, but it's not about music. It's also a lot faker than Ibiza. It's all about the bottle service crowd. Ibiza grew naturally and you still feel that today. Everything Vegas does, at least as far as the tourist industry goes, is forced. | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Only way I'd ever spend | Dannie Dimora
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by KS2
Have you ever been to Ibiza?
The only DJs that have lost residencies are the ones that are asking for too much money because their heads have grown too big.
Most of these are commercial DJs like the ones you mentioned who pull the crowds that usually know very little about the music and are there because they believe Ibiza is the place to be.
The island is still full of BIG DJs. Look at the Ushuaia opening party and the Circoloco opening party and the Sankeys opening party and the We Love opening party and the Amnesia opening party. All big big names, particularly the Ushuaia opening. Just no cheese.
Pacha got rid of most of their residencies because they realised how ridiculous it had become. Pacha's name was suffering because of it and their profits were too because of how much they were demanding. They got rid of a load of the shit (there's still some left though) and now look like they're going to have some decent parties this summer. Guy Gerber's evening
and Insane Ibiza or whatever it's called look to have some nice lineups planned.
The new club La Bomba looks to have a mix of more commercial stuff and underground on different evening
s to cater for everyone and if you read what the owner has to say about it it sounds like they have a good ethos.
And I've not even mentioned Kehekuma or Enter.
Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.
And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still believe there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy... | Emelina Chillson
03.05.2013 | Dude. I dont even see the apocalypse ending Ibiza. In fact, Ive chosen it as my go to spot to be when the apocalypse does happen. I was homeless in Ibiza for two months and enjoyed life. | Jetta Drenzek
03.05.2013 | Things that will end Ibiza:
1. A nuke
2. The Apocalypse
3. Ragnarok
4. My bowels after a long weekend binge
Things that won't end Ibiza:
1. Overpriced DJs not playing there
2. See 1. | Halley Wurzer
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by djproben
^^^ This! I live in LA but like most of LA I wind up in Vegas every once in a while, and the music in nearly every club I've been to generally sucks. I'd love to know if there's any underground tech house or actually pretty much anything electronic going on there.
As for what effect anything Tiesto does (or anything that happens in Vegas) will have on Ibiza, I agree with everyone else here, absolutely nothing. Never heard of this club (and there's one in LA too!) and I'd never go see Tiesto in either place so I really couldn't care less. And I'm happy to say there will be one more American in Ibiza this summer for a couple of days
We should drop tracks sometime! PM me. | Emelina Chillson
04.05.2013 | @squidot. If you get a chance, get out to Halfway to Halloween downtown toevening
. Its in a warehouse where Industrial dead ends. Were you at Vanguard on a Monday. I used to run a house/DNB evening
there. | Doreen Schurle
04.05.2013 | Only way I'd ever spend | Lannie Kutay
04.05.2013 | this gonna be great for Ibiza, definitely gonna cut down on all the stupid American rich kid hipsters there. Maybe soon i will make my pilgrimage there! | Harley Zitka
04.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
I asked this because big clubs in ibiza are kinda sorta stopping signing residencies with big dj's.. And while what you said about being it cheaper for europeans is completely true, just try to imagine an ibiza with no known dj's. It'd decline very rapidly, and if vegas is starting now, i can only imagine it being massive by then, attracting not only americans but europeans, too, maybe with arrangements for cheaper, no-baggage flights to LV..
They quit booking the superstar DJ's because it's pointless to book a DJ for $50k when you can run at capacity with a $10k DJ. It's pissing money away. Check out their rosters in Ibiza this summer... arguably the best ever, even without the cheese tossers like Tiesto.
Like I said before... Vegas isn't even close to being a destination for anyone outside of the midwestern US. You can book all the superstar DJ's you want, but Vegas is still way behind Miami, Chicago, NYC and LA in terms of evening
life. | Latina Samon
03.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
I asked this because big clubs in ibiza are kinda sorta stopping signing residencies with big dj's.. And while what you said about being it cheaper for europeans is completely true, just try to imagine an ibiza with no known dj's. It'd decline very rapidly, and if vegas is starting now, i can only imagine it being massive by then, attracting not only americans but europeans, too, maybe with arrangements for cheaper, no-baggage flights to LV..
Now, i'm not talking about 1-2 years , more like 10-15 yrs from now. And i totally see this situation as a possible one.
Have you ever been to Ibiza?
The only DJs that have lost residencies are the ones that are asking for too much money because their heads have grown too big.
Most of these are commercial DJs like the ones you mentioned who pull the crowds that usually know very little about the music and are there because they believe Ibiza is the place to be.
The island is still full of BIG DJs. Look at the Ushuaia opening party and the Circoloco opening party and the Sankeys opening party and the We Love opening party and the Amnesia opening party. All big big names, particularly the Ushuaia opening. Just no cheese.
Pacha got rid of most of their residencies because they realised how ridiculous it had become. Pacha's name was suffering because of it and their profits were too because of how much they were demanding. They got rid of a load of the shit (there's still some left though) and now look like they're going to have some decent parties this summer. Guy Gerber's evening
and Insane Ibiza or whatever it's called look to have some nice lineups planned.
The new club La Bomba looks to have a mix of more commercial stuff and underground on different evening
s to cater for everyone and if you read what the owner has to say about it it sounds like they have a good ethos.
And I've not even mentioned Kehekuma or Enter. | Tesha Freudenstein
03.05.2013 | i'm sure the entire island is currently ripping its hair out over tiesto and a few others not gracing them with their presence... | nayit ruiz jaramillo
03.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
Now, i'm not talking about 1-2 years , more like 10-15 yrs from now. And i totally see this situation as a possible one.
Ah right, yeah with you now. Get ya.
No, it won't happen... ever. I don't believe the prices would ever come down that far and also , dont you have to be 21 to drink in America. Not gonna get any young Brits going if they cant get smashed.
Originally Posted by backtothefront
throwing a load of money at it, such as Hakkasan, won't work either. You cannot 'buy' it.
100% agree. History tells us that when people throw money into 'creating' an instant appeal dance culture it fails.
'Home' (evening
club) anyone ?
Good stuff grows over time. Great clubs, cities, festivals grow and become great when people deem it right as and when they develop and become wonderful, beautiful and cherished.
You cannot buy the respect and love of genuine music lovers. You have to earn it.
These dick-wads going to clubs with expensive tables and champagne are anathema to what I believe makes a great club or a great scene... it's pathetic, horrible, ostentatious and the worst aspect of clubbing.
Again, no disrespect to the anyone from Las Vegas but isn't this the place that has a mock up of the Eifel Tower and the Pont di Rialto and the Taj Mahal and just about any other significant wonder of the world. I suppose it's only fitting that they make a mock super club.
Maybe they will have some genuine San Antonio sand flown in and charge a $1000 a glass. | Lashawn Maycock
03.05.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
I asked this because big clubs in ibiza are kinda sorta stopping signing residencies with big dj's.. And while what you said about being it cheaper for europeans is completely true, just try to imagine an ibiza with no known dj's. It'd decline very rapidly, and if vegas is starting now, i can only imagine it being massive by then, attracting not only americans but europeans, too, maybe with arrangements for cheaper, no-baggage flights to LV..
Now, i'm not talking about 1-2 years , more like 10-15 yrs from now. And i totally see this situation as a possible one.
Hi Polygon, I can see what you're saying but personally I can't see Vegas replacing Ibiza, they're completely different in so many ways not just geographically. Ibiza is special and as much as Vegas may grow with the current US mainstream popularity of dance music or 'EDM', this will eventually die away and the mainstream will move on to the next big thing and therefore so will the Vegas clubs.
Vegas smacks of making money, bottom line. And although it could be argued the large clubs in Ibiza are out to do the same, the ethos of Ibiza is different, it's about the experience - as much as Vegas can book 'big name DJs' to fill venues evening
after evening
, it cannot compete with history of the Balearic Island and Vegas throwing a load of money at it, such as Hakkasan, won't work either. You cannot 'buy' it. | Bunny Sockel
03.05.2013 | Vegas cannot be compared to Ibiza. Also i don't believe there is a decent techno club in vegas. |
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