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A Warning to all young DJ's
Posted on: 28.04.2013 by Lauretta Ehrhorn
Please take heed all. There are threads about this but if you don't protect it you'll lose it.

Was playing a gig last evening and for the first time after 20 years of audio abuse i couldn't pick out a beat with my open ear. I found this quite alarming and after switching the cup from my left to right ear it became abundantly clear that my hearing to my right ear was significantly damaged. In the left ear (which is always covered by a headphone) all was crisp and loud with clearly defined highs. In my right ear (which is always open to the monitor) all i could hear was a dull, quiet and muffled sound with absolutely no highs. At 38 it looks like it may be time to call it a day. Ater all, what use is a partially deaf DJ?
To say i'm upset is an understatement. I adore music and to not hear it how it should sound is a bit of a heartbreaker. Im planning on making an appointment with the doc soon to assess the damage although there's probably an online test to check frequency loss.

If you're a young DJ and reading this you're probably believeing, as I did, that it won't happen to you or it will spoil your enjoyment of the music if you wear ear attenuators. Trust me when I say that the consequences of exposure to loud music far outweigh wearing some attenuators.

Please, for your own sakes, protect your ears. If not you can guarantee that somewhere down the line all you will be left with is a dull muffled sound and lots of regret.

Edit; I also forgot to add that socialising with your mates becomes very difficult too unless you can lip read.
Deena Kritzer
20.05.2013
Originally Posted by D-Kem
Please take heed all. There are threads about this but if you don't protect it you'll lose it.

Was playing a gig last evening and for the first time after 20 years of audio abuse i couldn't pick out a beat with my open ear. I found this quite alarming and after switching the cup from my left to right ear it became abundantly clear that my hearing to my right ear was significantly damaged. In the left ear (which is always covered by a headphone) all was crisp and loud with clearly defined highs. In my right ear (which is always open to the monitor) all i could hear was a dull, quiet and muffled sound with absolutely no highs. At 38 it looks like it may be time to call it a day. Ater all, what use is a partially deaf DJ?
To say i'm upset is an understatement. I adore music and to not hear it how it should sound is a bit of a heartbreaker. Im planning on making an appointment with the doc soon to assess the damage although there's probably an online test to check frequency loss.

If you're a young DJ and reading this you're probably believeing, as I did, that it won't happen to you or it will spoil your enjoyment of the music if you wear ear attenuators. Trust me when I say that the consequences of exposure to loud music far outweigh wearing some attenuators.

Please, for your own sakes, protect your ears. If not you can guarantee that somewhere down the line all you will be left with is a dull muffled sound and lots of regret.

Edit; I also forgot to add that socialising with your mates becomes very difficult too unless you can lip read.

Just ordered my generic pair of earplugs now, thanks for the headsup.

one of the duo DJ Aly & Fila lost their hearing permanently too. It sure does and can happen to anyone.
Winter Luzak
03.05.2013
Originally Posted by Polygon
Sorry man, but these really do look like...
Lol, look like...? What do you mean, mon?

Thing is you should try it. People can't even tell when you have them in bud! Trust me!

Saved my ears I know!
Dannie Dimora
02.05.2013
Originally Posted by DJ Whrr

If you have over the headphones (and want to continue to use them), buy these. You WILL NOT regret using them, and you can still hear the sound PERFECTLY. This 200 pack will last you a life time and it's extremely cheap insurance: Howard Leight LPF-1 Max Lite Uncorded Foam Earplugs Box, 200 Pair
Sorry man, but these really do look like...
Gaynell Rydberg
01.05.2013
Originally Posted by DJ~MMiMER
Did you go to an ear specialist to have it check on? Or when the last time you had your ear checked? If you have not then there's a chance that the damage is done already. Having your ear check is just like doing your health check with yout doctor. A visit to an audiology doesn't hurt.
Oh I know my hearing is still phenomenal. I've always had extremely good hearing. I can hear my computer run when I'm like 30 ft away.

I can probably count the number of times I've gone clubbing on both my hands :P I try to not go since I know how bad it is for my hearing. Honestly, I've probably done more damage from riding my motorcycle since I only wear ear plugs on long trips.

It's just the fact that I don't experience ringing anymore that I know it's getting damaged lol.
Ngan Shannon
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I used to get ringing after going clubbing. Not anymore.

I'm losing my hearing.
Did you go to an ear specialist to have it check on? Or when the last time you had your ear checked? If you have not then there's a chance that the damage is done already. Having your ear check is just like doing your health check with yout doctor. A visit to an audiology doesn't hurt.
Ngan Shannon
29.04.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
I was just giving the guy some words to cheer him up. my post never said nothin about not protecting your ears...
More DJs like this will continue to grow. I believe many are facing the challenges when it comes to DJing. I finding it a great learning experience. ...
Ngan Shannon
29.04.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
its not the end of the world yo. there is an actual dj that was born deaf and hes doing good for himself. his name robbie wilde and he was in an hp commercial for their touchscreen laptops.
That's not the point for us being born with it versus those that had hearing is totally different. It wasn't saying whether we can make it as a DJ. What's being said here is protect what you already have. Once you lose it it will change everything and you may not believe will effect you that much. You may not have the experiences as we do to feel the music and tell the different verus using both ears.
Like I'm telling and saying it will effect you big time. It take time to adjusted what you use to have years and years.
Let's say you can hear the high with no problem but once you lose that and can't hear it will effect you and those around you.
So protect those ears is the warning being said.
Tesha Freudenstein
29.04.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
its not the end of the world yo. there is an actual dj that was born deaf and hes doing good for himself. his name robbie wilde and he was in an hp commercial for their touchscreen laptops.
ya. you do that then while we appreciate the joys of hearing.
Deena Kritzer
20.05.2013
Originally Posted by D-Kem
Please take heed all. There are threads about this but if you don't protect it you'll lose it.

Was playing a gig last evening and for the first time after 20 years of audio abuse i couldn't pick out a beat with my open ear. I found this quite alarming and after switching the cup from my left to right ear it became abundantly clear that my hearing to my right ear was significantly damaged. In the left ear (which is always covered by a headphone) all was crisp and loud with clearly defined highs. In my right ear (which is always open to the monitor) all i could hear was a dull, quiet and muffled sound with absolutely no highs. At 38 it looks like it may be time to call it a day. Ater all, what use is a partially deaf DJ?
To say i'm upset is an understatement. I adore music and to not hear it how it should sound is a bit of a heartbreaker. Im planning on making an appointment with the doc soon to assess the damage although there's probably an online test to check frequency loss.

If you're a young DJ and reading this you're probably believeing, as I did, that it won't happen to you or it will spoil your enjoyment of the music if you wear ear attenuators. Trust me when I say that the consequences of exposure to loud music far outweigh wearing some attenuators.

Please, for your own sakes, protect your ears. If not you can guarantee that somewhere down the line all you will be left with is a dull muffled sound and lots of regret.

Edit; I also forgot to add that socialising with your mates becomes very difficult too unless you can lip read.

Just ordered my generic pair of earplugs now, thanks for the headsup.

one of the duo DJ Aly & Fila lost their hearing permanently too. It sure does and can happen to anyone.
Werner Bile
20.05.2013
anyone have the V-Moda Earplugs they sell in the DJTT store?
Doreen Schurle
19.05.2013
Toevening was the FIRST time in almost 2 years I've felt like my hearing was in any actual danger, and it was because the tosser of a DJ we had on decided to set a 1-bar loop at that bloody annoying bit in "Bonkers" just before it drops, where it's this nasty white noise sound. It's tolerable when its only for a single bar, but he looped it for like a minute solid... after about 15 seconds there was a mass exodus out of the room with people literally clutching their ears.
Gaynell Rydberg
19.05.2013
People don't wear ear plugs.

It's smart to, but they just don't (I don't either). I rarely go clubbing though. Maybe once every couple of months when a DJ comes to town.
Avis Lekic
19.05.2013
Was reading this community : http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1936537 and its surprising the amount of young people that say 'It wont happen to me'.

Heres some posts I was amazed to read after reading this community :

'Haha this post seems to be controversial! Interesting how no one has quoted me to explain why they disagree...
As a young member of the human species. I know NOONE. Not a SINGLE young human who wears ear-plugs clubbing. Its certainly not the norm.'
and this one:
Hahahaha silly billy. Ear plugs :rofl:

Edit- rofl @ all the grandpas negging me. You know this is the student room, right? :rofl:
Lauretta Ehrhorn
19.05.2013
Thanks all for you kind words. Hearing damage has its advantages however. The wife's nagging sessions are now far more muted.
Winter Luzak
03.05.2013
Originally Posted by Polygon
Sorry man, but these really do look like...
Lol, look like...? What do you mean, mon?

Thing is you should try it. People can't even tell when you have them in bud! Trust me!

Saved my ears I know!
Dannie Dimora
02.05.2013
Originally Posted by DJ Whrr

If you have over the headphones (and want to continue to use them), buy these. You WILL NOT regret using them, and you can still hear the sound PERFECTLY. This 200 pack will last you a life time and it's extremely cheap insurance: Howard Leight LPF-1 Max Lite Uncorded Foam Earplugs Box, 200 Pair
Sorry man, but these really do look like...
Winter Luzak
30.04.2013
D-Kem, so sorry to hear this. I have found that after even a FEW DJ gigs, my ears will start hurt if I do not use proper protection.

With that being said I recommend either using one or the other:

If you have over the headphones (and want to continue to use them), buy these. You WILL NOT regret using them, and you can still hear the sound PERFECTLY. This 200 pack will last you a life time and it's extremely cheap insurance: Howard Leight LPF-1 Max Lite Uncorded Foam Earplugs Box, 200 Pair

OR buy a par of these guys. They work great and will allow you to control the volume your self. I enjoy using them, but you don't have the "prop" of the "over the ear" headphones. No matter though, they are worth it. Super cheap, but sound great! Also, the wire that goes around your ear will keep them on your ears while you get buck wild!: MEElectronics M6-BK-MEE Sport Noise-Isolating In-Ear Headphones with Memory Wire
Gaynell Rydberg
01.05.2013
If you have the cash, just go to an ENT and get custom mold ear plugs now. Nothing otc will compare to it.

Otherwise, the Etymotics ER-20 are widely regarded as a good budget pair.
Junie Turkin
01.05.2013
Quick question:

What are the proper steps to take to protect your hearing? I heard about ear plugs, but how do you choose the right ones? If possible, can someone list a few to check out. Thanks.
Gaynell Rydberg
01.05.2013
Originally Posted by DJ~MMiMER
Did you go to an ear specialist to have it check on? Or when the last time you had your ear checked? If you have not then there's a chance that the damage is done already. Having your ear check is just like doing your health check with yout doctor. A visit to an audiology doesn't hurt.
Oh I know my hearing is still phenomenal. I've always had extremely good hearing. I can hear my computer run when I'm like 30 ft away.

I can probably count the number of times I've gone clubbing on both my hands :P I try to not go since I know how bad it is for my hearing. Honestly, I've probably done more damage from riding my motorcycle since I only wear ear plugs on long trips.

It's just the fact that I don't experience ringing anymore that I know it's getting damaged lol.
Ngan Shannon
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I used to get ringing after going clubbing. Not anymore.

I'm losing my hearing.
Did you go to an ear specialist to have it check on? Or when the last time you had your ear checked? If you have not then there's a chance that the damage is done already. Having your ear check is just like doing your health check with yout doctor. A visit to an audiology doesn't hurt.
Gaynell Rydberg
30.04.2013
I used to get ringing after going clubbing. Not anymore.

I'm losing my hearing.
Estrella Rozzo
30.04.2013
I keep my headphones on most of the time when I'm sure all sounds great. Not sure if that's a solution though.
Ngan Shannon
29.04.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
I was just giving the guy some words to cheer him up. my post never said nothin about not protecting your ears...
More DJs like this will continue to grow. I believe many are facing the challenges when it comes to DJing. I finding it a great learning experience. ...
Jerica Salava
29.04.2013
I just finished a party last evening and my ears where ringing all evening long. I couldn't sleep it was ringing so loud.

Due to some miscommunication we did not receive the correct sound system and went ahead with four active JBL PRX615M's all on stands and no subwoofers

We positioned one of the speakers next to the booth about 3 feet behind my right ear to act as a makeshift monitor.

Bad idea. Under powered system meant we had to crank the monitor to help out. And now my ears are screwed.

Hopefully they come back soon.

>
Rochel Papillion
29.04.2013
I was just giving the guy some words to cheer him up. my post never said nothin about not protecting your ears...
Ngan Shannon
29.04.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
its not the end of the world yo. there is an actual dj that was born deaf and hes doing good for himself. his name robbie wilde and he was in an hp commercial for their touchscreen laptops.
That's not the point for us being born with it versus those that had hearing is totally different. It wasn't saying whether we can make it as a DJ. What's being said here is protect what you already have. Once you lose it it will change everything and you may not believe will effect you that much. You may not have the experiences as we do to feel the music and tell the different verus using both ears.
Like I'm telling and saying it will effect you big time. It take time to adjusted what you use to have years and years.
Let's say you can hear the high with no problem but once you lose that and can't hear it will effect you and those around you.
So protect those ears is the warning being said.
Tesha Freudenstein
29.04.2013
Originally Posted by enorjy
its not the end of the world yo. there is an actual dj that was born deaf and hes doing good for himself. his name robbie wilde and he was in an hp commercial for their touchscreen laptops.
ya. you do that then while we appreciate the joys of hearing.
Ngan Shannon
29.04.2013
You know it ashame that you would ruin something you only get once in your life time and I found it very interesting to see as many young and old falling for that myth attitude 'Oh it won't happen to me'.

I'm hard of hearing myself from birth totally different from those that had their perfect hearing ruined because of their stupidity that their hearing are like Super man never going to be damaged.

Yeah I've been to a couple of rave concerts with so many bass speakers pumping those kicks and I've witness many young and old getting up close to stage with no protection on at all. While at these concerts I've always ended up turning off my aid with my ear mold acting as my ear plug for protection and wearing a plug in the other ear.

I've grown up with this hearing lost all my life and yes it sad that those would risk damaging theirs.

Once it gone you'll be wishing u protect it in the first place.
Annalisa Shogren
29.04.2013
I have tinnitus, the doctor says my hearing isn't getting any worse. Just a sound that I can't really compare anything to when all is quiet.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alpine-Music.../dp/B000VO8PR0 I use these, but planning on getting some ACS customs soon.
Rosina Steinkuehler
29.04.2013
Tinnitus is the worst - you really don't want to damage your ears unless you like to hear a constant pitched sound all the time. Wish I would have followed a lot of the advice that is being talked about here but alas this was many many years ago before the internet came into its prime.
Toya Spor
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by D-Kem
Please take heed all. There are threads about this but if you don't protect it you'll lose it.

Was playing a gig last evening and for the first time after 20 years of audio abuse i couldn't pick out a beat with my open ear. I found this quite alarming and after switching the cup from my left to right ear it became abundantly clear that my hearing to my right ear was significantly damaged. In the left ear (which is always covered by a headphone) all was crisp and loud with clearly defined highs. In my right ear (which is always open to the monitor) all i could hear was a dull, quiet and muffled sound with absolutely no highs. At 38 it looks like it may be time to call it a day. Ater all, what use is a partially deaf DJ?
To say i'm upset is an understatement. I adore music and to not hear it how it should sound is a bit of a heartbreaker. Im planning on making an appointment with the doc soon to assess the damage although there's probably an online test to check frequency loss.

If you're a young DJ and reading this you're probably believeing, as I did, that it won't happen to you or it will spoil your enjoyment of the music if you wear ear attenuators. Trust me when I say that the consequences of exposure to loud music far outweigh wearing some attenuators.

Please, for your own sakes, protect your ears. If not you can guarantee that somewhere down the line all you will be left with is a dull muffled sound and lots of regret.

Edit; I also forgot to add that socialising with your mates becomes very difficult too unless you can lip read.
Very sobering words. On a lighter note fuckingdjtips.com says to wear fucking earplugs. These are the consequences if you don't!!
Dannie Dimora
30.04.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
yes .. hearing loss and the inability to maintain an erection after years of abuse *wink*
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Rochel Papillion
29.04.2013
its not the end of the world yo. there is an actual dj that was born deaf and hes doing good for himself. his name robbie wilde and he was in an hp commercial for their touchscreen laptops.
Joya Heiberg
29.04.2013
How does one know which ear plugs to buy, aside from trying them on (obviously)? After reading this post, I'm already looking for a pair to purchase.
Palma Hanslip
29.04.2013
Great post to the younger guys!

I started going out at a young age (14 years old) and even used to listen to music at high volumes through ear buds at a younger age. I also had serious issues as a baby with my ears but non of it even crossed my mind until a flight from UK to Norway trigger some serious ear pain that has now been continuous for around 3 years now. I started to see that my hearing was important and booked into a specialist for 2 and a half years and all i can say is, that it isn't nice knowing that you could have prevented damage.

After 2 months of the ear pain i splashed out on the ER15's (about
Tesha Freudenstein
29.04.2013
great post OP. nobody wants to be a frankie wilde.
Jorge Furber
29.04.2013
I'm 20 and because of bad genetics, my dad is 50 and has been saying for the past 15 years that he's deaf on a side and can't hear from the other, it is affecting me already. I've been listening to louder music since I'm 18, since I can step into a club legally. Before that, I've always wear good quality headphones that would reduce the outside noise so I don't have to crank it up. I've been wearing cheap but good enough earplugs since I started DJing and going out more. I don't leave the house without them. It's to the point that I've worn them just with friends on a car ride because we were blasting music.

But still, it's affecting me.

I would say I probably lost 15 to 25% of my hearing capacity in both ears (appointment with a specialist is taken but it takes forever here in Quebec). And imagine, I'm 20. Yes, in my case, it's genetic, we're more sensitive. But who knows if you're not more sensitive too (and I'm not talking to the OP here, I'm talking to everyone my age). Get some protection. As people said before me, it is worth the investment.

And seriously, good earplugs are a better investment than any other piece of gear , and it's something I should have bought already. You can have some CDJ-2000s or some 1200s or an S4 or whatever else, but if you can't hear what you play anymore, where's the fun?

---

Great post OP!
Latoria Kavulich
28.04.2013
yes .. hearing loss and the inability to maintain an erection after years of abuse *wink*
Rolanda Clodfelder
28.04.2013
I'm blessed that I still have superb hearing after 15 years of serious abuse and working as an LJ in a notoriously loud club with even more notoriously loud monitors banging off my left ear (why was the monitor installed beside the lighting desk and not the dj is beyond me!)...

Been wearing Protection of some sort since 2002 when I'm out and about (even if its just tissue paper sometimes it works and you'll notice no ringing ears next day!) .. I don't however when I'm DJ'ing, I just cant get enough of a feeling of whats "actually" going on with the floor.

But seriously too many of my mates are partially deaf due to clubs at this point and they aren't even dj's!

Your ears are your career at the end of the day - and we don't want anyone ending up like ol' frankie wilde.

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